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19 Apr 2016 12:18
  • phoenix
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Hi sharkman,

I hate to sound lazy, but this is quiet the overload of information and I did not manage to absorb all this. Would you be able to provide some kind of summery?


There is a simplified summary at the end of the tutorial ...

In its simplest form choosing the "best possible" mattress for any particular person (or couple) really comes down to FIRST finding a few knowledgeable and transparent retailers and/or manufacturers (either locally or online) that sell the types of mattresses that you are most interested in that are in a budget range you are comfortable with and that you have confirmed will provide you with the all the information you need about the materials and components inside the mattresses they sell so you will be able to make informed choices and meaningful comparisons between mattresses and then ...

1. Careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in the tutorial) to make sure that a mattress is a good match for you in terms of "comfort", firmness, and PPP ... and/or that you are comfortable with the options you have available to return, exchange, or "fine tune" the mattress and any costs involved if you can't test a mattress in person or aren't confident that your mattress is a suitable choice.

2. Checking to make sure that there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress you are considering relative to your weight range that could compromise the durability and useful life of the mattress.

3. Comparing your finalists for "value" based on #1 and #2 and all the other parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.

Or maybe a consultant or a store that you would trust in Montreal or surrounding?


The better options or possibilities I'm aware of in and around the Montreal area (subject to making sure than any mattress you consider meets the quality/value guidelines here ) are listed in post #276 here .

A forum search on Montreal (you can just click the link) will also bring up more comments and feedback from other members in the area that may be helpful as well.

Phoenix
19 Apr 2016 12:02
  • sharkman
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I hate to sound lazy, but this is quiet the overload of information and I did not manage to absorb all this. Would you be able to provide some kind of summery? Or maybe a consultant or a store that you would trust in Montreal or surrounding?
11 Feb 2016 08:20
  • phoenix
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Hi Candi,

1. Based on just physics (putting all other factors aside) In your opinion would 19 ILD Talalay topper on a firm new mattress keep my back aligned (assume I will sleep mostly on my stomach) given my weight (200 lbs)


Unfortunately I can't feel what you feel or see you sleeping on a particular mattress/topper combination and there are too many possible variations in your body type and physiology, your sleeping positions, and the mattress you would be using under the topper for me (or a physicist) to know this and the only way to know for certain will be based on your actual sleeping experience on your mattress/topper combination.

Having said that ... if your only criteria was alignment when you are sleeping on your stomach then a 3" 19 ILD topper would probably be somewhat riskier than a firmer or thinner topper.

2 You said:
"but again the most reliable way to know which type of topper or which type of latex you tend to prefer will be based on your own careful testing or personal sleeping experience"

I agree and I am trying to find a place (I live in Montreal) where I can go lay down on 19 ILD talalay ( with fibro I definitely want talalay)
Here is the list you gave me which I am very grateful but as you can see my comments (beside each supplier) I cannot go to any of these places as they are very far away ....

See comments beside each place you listed:


The businesses you listed were on the Canadian online list I linked in my last reply. When I mentioned that it would be surprising to me if none of the local manufacturers carried toppers I was referring to the Montreal list I also linked (which I think you'd already seen). I don't know which of them carry toppers or for the ones that do the specific information about the toppers that they carry so you will need to check their websites or better yet phone them to find out whether any of them carry latex toppers in the firmness you are looking for that you would be interested in testing.

Phoenix
11 Feb 2016 06:40
  • Candi
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Hi Phoenix,

Thank you for your speedy response. I have two questions...

1. Based on just physics (putting all other factors aside) In your opinion would 19 ILD Talalay topper on a firm new mattress keep my back aligned (assume I will sleep mostly on my stomach) given my weight (200 lbs)

2 You said:
"but again the most reliable way to know which type of topper or which type of latex you tend to prefer will be based on your own careful testing or personal sleeping experience"

I agree and I am trying to find a place (I live in Montreal) where I can go lay down on 19 ILD talalay ( with fibro I definitely want talalay)
Here is the list you gave me which I am very grateful but as you can see my comments (beside each supplier) I cannot go to any of these places as they are very far away ....

See comments beside each place you listed:

www.halstead.ca/ Member of The Mattress Underground (CALGARY)

tmasc.ca/store/sfnt.html Member of The Mattress Underground (EDMONTON CALGARY)

en.memoryfoamcomfort.ca/ Member of The Mattress Underground (QUEBEC BUT Because of the chemical content of talalay they no longer carry it.)

dormio.ca/ Member of The Mattress Underground (ONTARIO)

www.novosbed.com/ Member of The Mattress Underground (EDMONTON AND DOES NOT SELL TOPPERS)

Dreamfoam Bedding (shipped and fulfilled by Amazon.ca only) (USA)

www.bestsleepcentre.com/ (WINNIPEG)

www.sleepys.ca/index.html (BRITISH COLUMBIA)


tonfurniture.com (TORONTO)

So given this I need to know where I can go to lay down on 19 ILD talalay in Montreal or within a couple of hours drive from Montreal and hoping you are able to refer a place.

Looking forward to hearing from you and thanks again for all your help thus far.

Candi
09 Feb 2016 12:42
  • phoenix
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Hi Candi,

People who sleep well are so fortunate... I hope you can recommend a topper for me.. I believe if you cannot nobody can



Unfortunately it's not possible to make specific suggestions or recommendations with any certainly because you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress or a mattress/topper combination and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion about which topper would be the best "match" for both you in combination with the mattress you are using it on in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) based on specs (either yours or a mattress) or "theory at a distance" that can possibly be more accurate than your own personal testing or sleeping experience (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here ).

If the only issue with a mattress is that it is too firm and there are no soft spots or sagging in the mattress then a good quality topper can certainly be an effective way to add some additional softness, "comfort" and pressure relief to your sleeping system but the only way to know whether a specific mattress/topper combination is a good "match" for you in terms of PPP is based on your own careful testing or personal experience on the combination. If you can't test the combination in person then there will always be always some risk and uncertainty involved in adding a topper because the specifics of the mattress itself along with your own body type, sleeping position, and preferences can affect which specific topper would be a suitable choice on any specific mattress.

There is more information about choosing a topper in post #2 here and the topper guidelines it links to which along with a conversation with a reliable and knowledgeable supplier (that can provide you with good information about how their toppers compare to each other or to other toppers they are familiar with that are available on the market) can help you use your sleeping experience as a reference point and guideline to help you choose the type, thickness, and firmness for a topper that has the least possible risk and the best chance for success. A good exchange/return policy can also reduce the risk of an online topper purchase so I would make sure you are comfortable with the options you have available after a purchase just in case the topper you choose doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for.

If a mattress/topper combination turns out to be a good "match" for you in terms of "comfort and PPP then it also has the advantage of being able to replace just the topper without replacing the entire mattress if it softens or breaks down before the upper foam layers in the mattress (which is very likely because the upper layers of a sleeping system tend to soften or break down before the deeper layers) or if your needs or preferences change over time and a topper can also help extend the useful life of the mattress underneath it as well.

I live in Montreal and cannot find anyone that has the talalay toppers that I can go lay on to know for sure what is right for me. (I did call or check the web sites on your list of places in Quebec and did not find any) (and if there was one found here would it be the same quality as Arizona Premium is what I wonder)


It would be surprising to me if none of the manufacturers on the Montreal list carried toppers but if for some reason none of them do then it would still be a good idea to test some of their latex mattresses that have softer comfort layers so you can get some sense of the firmness that may be best for you.

Some of the better suppliers I'm aware of that ship mattresses and/or toppers across Canada are also listed in post #21 here .

Any type or blend of latex (either Dunlop or Talalay and made with natural rubber, synthetic rubber, or a blend of both) would be a high quality and durable material relative to other types of foam. The choice between different types and blends of latex is a preference and budget choice more than a "better/worse" choice. There is more about the different types and blends of latex in post #6 here and there is also more about some of the general differences between Dunlop and Talalay in post #7 here but again the most reliable way to know which type of topper or which type of latex you tend to prefer will be based on your own careful testing or personal sleeping experience.

Most people with fibromyalgia are very sensitive to pressure points and will often prefer a topper that is softer than others in the same weight range would normally choose so a 2" or 3" topper that was 19 ILD would be a reasonable "guess" but of course it would only be a guess because you are the only one that can confirm how well you sleep on any mattress/topper combination.

Phoenix
09 Feb 2016 06:16
  • Candi
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Dear Phoenix,

I have spoken to the owner of Arizona Premium mattress company (great person took his time to explain many things and told me to try to find the topper locally) he recommended his Rejuvenite 3" blended talalay topper in ILD 19.... i also agree that a talalay latex topper is the right choice for me....however he did not know my weight... as well as the following :

* 200 lb female
*mild case of fibro
*shoulders approx 17 inches wide (my hips are in line with my shoulders)
*stomach sleeper (but would like to try to sleep on my side so far I just cannot.. even with my back so sore I go on my stomach)
*base is a new Simmons beautyrest in firm (I cannot sleep on it at all)

I am so afraid of not getting the right ILD as I cannot return the topper and I am Canadian so with the shipping and exchange it will be over $600.

I live in Montreal and cannot find anyone that has the talalay toppers that I can go lay on to know for sure what is right for me. (I did call or check the web sites on your list of places in Quebec and did not find any) (and if there was one found here would it be the same quality as Arizona Premium is what I wonder)

I have been on a memory foam topper for eight years and my back took a beating from the hammock effect but I loved the coziness and how I had no pressure points but I know now I have to find something that keeps my spine in line and something that when I lay on my stomach or side I do not feel pressure on my hips or shoulders. At 45 I cannot afford to not be sleeping properly anymore.

Right now I have the:
Serafina™ Gel Memory Foam Topper with Pillow Top sold at Costco Canada
Topper Construction:
Quilted fiber fill top for plush comfort
5.1 cm (2 in.) of Gel Memory Foam for cooling comfort and support (3.2 lb density)
2.5 cm (1 in.) of Flextech foam for customized responsive support

I bought it a few months ago and it is a disaster for me. Not only do I have worsened back pain .. but now I have right shoulder pain as I tried to sleep on my side...and I overheat and do not sleep the whole night. I toss and turn all night ..I know because my hair is all teased like an eighties up do in the morning.

I know all the pains are from my bed as I have been checked by my Dr had MRI etc...and also the aches subside as the day goes on and when I wake in the morning it is all back again and it is getting worse every day.

People who sleep well are so fortunate... I hope you can recommend a topper for me.. I believe if you cannot nobody can

Best regards,
Candi
23 Jan 2016 15:59
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So we've had it for almost a month now and absolutely love it. Haven't slept so well in years. At first right after delivery I was a bit concerned that it didn't feel as firm as I was expecting it to be, but turns out it's just about right that way. It may sound weird but I to fall into much deeper sleep than on my previous sealy posturpedic mattress. Even the alarm clock went unnoticed a couple of times now :-). One concern for me was the height of 6in only, so I went this week and bought a shiatsu futon organic cotton mattress at futon d'or in Montreal ($159) and placed it inbetween the slatted base and the mattress.
27 Dec 2015 09:41
  • phoenix
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Hi cy5478,

You were right phoenix, I was measuring the outside edges, but from the thickest part it does come to 9".


That's good to know :)

I'm looking forward to your next update.

Phoenix
27 Dec 2015 07:36
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You were right phoenix, I was measuring the outside edges, but from the thickest part it does come to 9". I will come back in a few months to give you guys an update.
Forgot in my first post to report that I also purchased from literie provincial a latex pillow, which feels like heaven for my neck and head !
25 Dec 2015 21:28
  • phoenix
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Hi cy5478,

It sounds like you made a great quality/value choice ... and congratulations on your new mattress :)

My only issue is that the matress looked thinner than the floor model, so I decided to measure it, and it came at around 8" with the tencel cover. Is that due to normal compression of the latex when it is being wrapped with the tencel? Or should i contact them to verify if there was a mistake in the order.


If your mattress contains 9" of latex then it should measure close to 9" at it's thickest part (and perhaps just a little bit thicker depending on the thickness of the cover) but depending on the type of cover it's possible that the outside edges may be compressed a bit by the tightness of the cover.

Phoenix
25 Dec 2015 20:24
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Hi Phoenix and everyone,

After some research on the net and the feedback from this board, I also decided to go with my first latex mattress. I went to check in 2 local stores, Futon d'or and Literie provinciale. I found the dunlop latex matresses at Futon d'or too firm, so I decided to go with Literie provinciale.

I purchased a 9 " (6 +3) with tencel cotton, which they refer to as their Vienna model for $1395, taxes incl. Having slept on it for a few days, I can say it is very comfortable and good as advertised.

My only issue is that the matress looked thinner than the floor model, so I decided to measure it, and it came at around 8" with the tencel cover. Is that due to normal compression of the latex when it is being wrapped with the tencel? Or should i contact them to verify if there was a mistake in the order.

Thanks
12 Nov 2015 19:52
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Hi astralmind,

Thanks for taking the time to share your Montreal experiences ... I appreciate it :)

We ended up choosing a single block latex queen mattress with a very thin box-spring. I was almost disappointed at the simplicity of our purchase (1400$ for a slab of latex isn't really exciting as opposed to those 6 layers fancy marketing mattresses) but it was extremely comfortable, firm and according to Jean, supported us the best (straight back, no slump). So no comfort layer so to speak which again, seemed a bit odd but both my wife and I preferred the feel and Jean was pretty clear that it seemed like our best option even though it was their cheapest latex based mattress. We also picked up 2 of their memory foam pillows at a rather steep 100$...they were wonderful. At that price (really 1400$ ship and tax in), it is almost a bargain when compared even to other 'artisanal' local manufacturer. I have not doubt Matelas Personnel and Matelas Selection are outstanding options, after all they scored high on our list but their exact same - identical - offering was almost twice as much!


Sometimes the simplest choice can also turn out to be the best choice ... and a single core of latex on a box spring (that has some give and can add more of a "bottomless feel" to a thinner latex mattress vs a solid non flexing foundation) is certainly a combination that works well for many people.

Most importantly ... congratulations on your new mattress :)

Edit: A detail that bugged me a bit, when I asked about the thickness, 7 inches vs 10 vs... Jean was clear in telling me that it was purely a marketing gimmick. His opinion was the same when it came to 'reversible' mattresses, totally useless for a latex monoblock ... which makes you wonder why they make such a big fuss about it elsewhere...


It's not unusual at all that different manufacturers have different opinions about things based on their experiences and that are sometimes influenced by the mattresses they sell as well. I would agree with them though "to a point" that thickness by itself is just a side effect of the design and internal layering of a mattress and is only one of many factors and specs that will affect how a mattress feels and performs so using thickness by itself as a guideline isn't particularly practical or meaningful (see post #2 here ). If your testing or personal sleeping experience indicates that a mattress is a good match for you in terms of PPP then it's "thick enough" although if you have a box spring (with springs) under your mattress vs a foundation (that has no flex at all) then the box spring would be a more active part of your sleeping system that would add some give and softness and depth of support under your mattress and can result in a combination that doesn't need a separate comfort layer for many people.

I would also agree that a two sided mattress will have "less benefit" with a single monoblock layer of latex that is all the same firmness vs a mattress that has softer comfort layers on each side of a firmer support core although I wouldn't agree that it would have no benefit at all.

I'm looking forward to your comments and feedback once you've received it and have had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.

Phoenix
12 Nov 2015 17:21
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Well, first of, a sincere thanks to Phoenix and the Montreal folks for their comments and observation.

I usually am an avid shopper with a well assumed geekiness to my sometimes obsessive research. I had never thought shopping for a mattress would such a painful and frustrating experience.

Like many, I went around the usual suspects, tried tons and tons of mattresses, read up reviews that were conflicting online and heard some of the stupidest comments imaginable from various salesman.

Based on a few posts here we decided to give Literie Provinciale a try (in person after having viewed a LOT of websites from different local manufacturers).

Not a very impressive place from the outside but a very nice and cozy place from the inside with laid back music and subdued lighting (duh... testing mattresses in brightly lite rooms isn't exactly a fun time). We were greeted by Jean who gave us the full tour and some very valuable info that did make sense as opposed to what I had heard so far.

We ended up choosing a single block latex queen mattress with a very thin box-spring. I was almost disappointed at the simplicity of our purchase (1400$ for a slab of latex isn't really exciting as opposed to those 6 layers fancy marketing mattresses) but it was extremely comfortable, firm and according to Jean, supported us the best (straight back, no slump). So no comfort layer so to speak which again, seemed a bit odd but both my wife and I preferred the feel and Jean was pretty clear that it seemed like our best option even though it was their cheapest latex based mattress. We also picked up 2 of their memory foam pillows at a rather steep 100$...they were wonderful. At that price (really 1400$ ship and tax in), it is almost a bargain when compared even to other 'artisanal' local manufacturer. I have not doubt Matelas Personnel and Matelas Selection are outstanding options, after all they scored high on our list but their exact same - identical - offering was almost twice as much!

I will definitely keep everyone posted once we receive it on how we enjoy our purchase and how well it's holding up. So far, the purchase experience has been great.

Edit: A detail that bugged me a bit, when I asked about the thickness, 7 inches vs 10 vs... Jean was clear in telling me that it was purely a marketing gimmick. His opinion was the same when it came to 'reversible' mattresses, totally useless for a latex monoblock ... which makes you wonder why they make such a big fuss about it elsewhere...
22 Oct 2015 16:56
  • phoenix
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Hi Stephanie,

Thanks for taking the time to share an update as well :)

It's also great to hear that your mattress is also working out so well for you!

Phoenix
22 Oct 2015 15:42
  • Stephanie
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Reading chanpou's post today, I was reminded that I didn't send an update on my mattress. I purchased a coil mattress with a top latex layer from Matelas Sélection last spring.

The mattress is heaven! I too always look forward to get home in my bed, even if away only for one short night. The latex is soft enough to relieve pressure points but provides great support. It is the most comfortable mattress I've slept on! And it's worth every penny paid and every hour spent researching the ABCs of mattresses and spent trying different mattresses.

Thanks to everyone who answered my questions in previous posts!
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