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01 Sep 2022 15:01
  • Basilio
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Hi gldsleep,

Been down the rabbit hole with beds in general for about 4 months. Have a 10+ yr old Sealy Dynasty CSS Plush bed that we bought from the Kimpton hotel chain because we loved their beds so much back in the day. Returned 2 Helix beds earlier this year, just don't like the sink in feeling of foam and need to be able to turn over easily. Finally settled on Latex.

Sorry to hear you are having issues finding a new mattress. As you likely know, any mattress is unique to the sleepers using it based on a number of factors, including personal stats(height, BMI, sleeping position(s), and any underlying health issues as well as their PPP(which stands for posture and alignment, pressure relief, and personal preferences). It can be a frustrating experience shopping for a mattress after the one you have enjoyed for many years starts wearing out. If you have not already done so, you may want to take a look at the Mattress Shopping Tutorial as well as the Mattress Specifications You Need To Know and the Mattress Durability Guidelines just to familiarize yourself with the different options available and their specifications.

I was going to do a traditional Dunlop firm base/Dunlop Med/Dunlop Med soft split from latex Matress Factory/SleepEZ or Flexus. However I've read that the Dunlop med on Dunlop firm is a pretty hard bed. I am now considering a Talalay Firm base / Dunlop Med / Talalay soft/med split on top. Does anone else have experience with this combination? I've also considered the pocket coil base instead of the Talalay base and Dunlop middle.

I'm a side sleeper, 6'2" 230lb, and wife 5'2" 160lb side/back/toss turn sleeper

Thanks for providing your stats…in general Dunlop is considered a heavier, denser latex and has more of a ‘cradling’ feel, while talalay is considered ‘springier (think angel food cake vs. pound cake). With higher BMIs, back and side sleepers need to have adequate support to prevent any muscle or joint pains or alignment issues, but it comes down to personal preference as to whether you and your wife will be comfortable with a particular configuration. Since you did not like the foam in Helix mattresses as you ‘don’t like the sink in feeling’ of foam, you are likely correct in going for a talalay comfort layer; the other layers would be left to you and your wife’s preferences, as far as density is concerned. Have you tried out any latex mattresses at a local showroom, just to see how they feel for you both?

As all the manufacturers you listed – Latex Mattress Factory , Arizona SleepEZ Factory , and Flexus Comfort Mattress Company are all Trusted Members of the site, I will say they all have a lot of experience matching consumers to mattresses which will fit their comfort preferences... by providing a bit of information they will be able to offer the options that will provide support as well as comfort. We also have a large number of DIY enthusiasts on the forum, they can perhaps chime in with their own experiences with similar builds.

I wish you success on your new mattress journey, please let us know what you finally decide on!

~ Basilio
31 Aug 2022 07:19
  • gldsleep
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Been down the rabbit hole with beds in general for about 4 months. Have a 10+ yr old Sealy Dynasty CSS Plush bed that we bought from the Kimpton hotel chain because we loved their beds so much back in the day. Returned 2 Helix beds earlier this year, just don't like the sink in feeling of foam and need to be able to turn over easily. Finally settled on Latex. I was going to do a traditional Dunlop firm base/Dunlop Med/Dunlop Med soft split from latex Matress Factory/SleepEZ or Flexus. However I've read that the Dunlop med on Dunlop firm is a pretty hard bed. I am now considering a Talalay Firm base / Dunlop Med / Talalay soft/med split on top. Does anone else have experience with this combination? I've also considered the pocket coil base instead of the Talalay base and Dunlop middle.

I'm a side sleeper, 6'2" 230lb, and wife 5'2" 160lb side/back/toss turn sleeper.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
30 Aug 2022 10:38
  • gldsleep
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Been down the rabbit hole with beds in general for about 4 months. Have a 10+ yr old Sealy Dynasty CSS Plush bed that we bought from the Kimpton hotel chain because we loved their beds so much back in the day. Returned 2 Helix beds earlier this year, just don't like the sink in feeling of foam and need to be able to turn over easily. Finally settled on Latex. I was going to do a traditional Dunlop firm base/Dunlop Med/Dunlop Med soft split from latex Matress Factory/SleepEZ or Flexus. However I've read that the Dunlop med on Dunlop firm is a pretty hard bed. I am now considering a Talalay Firm base / Dunlop Med / Talalay soft/med split on top. Does anone else have experience with this combination? I've also considered the pocket coil base instead of the Talalay base and Dunlop middle.

I'm a side sleeper, 6'2" 230lb, and wife 5'2" 160lb side/back/toss turn sleeper.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
16 Aug 2022 12:04
  • NikkiTMU
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Hi atritt.

Welcome to our Mattress Forum. :)

I think latex is a good option for you as well, in terms of sleeping cool. As a side/stomach sleeper, you would ideally want a 3" comfort layer - because you're a very light weight, the plush factor is less of an issue for you. In other words, a very plush mattress isn't going to affect your alignment as much as you change positions since you likely have a harder time sinking into the layers in comparison to someone of a higher weight.

I'd avoid the Purple. Buckling column gel will be unlikely to be comfortable or supportive to you unless you have extreme support needs.

I'd suggest looking into the Qudraflex Hybrid and Arizona Premium's Ultra Plush mattress. If you have a mattress you've found that you're interested into that you'd like me to help you evaluate, I'd be happy to do so.

NikkiTMU
12 Aug 2022 06:48
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Hi 8cp1.

We can't tell you what to buy, but we can tell you how to buy it :) Remember, any bed is unique to the sleepers using it, based on their stats(height, BMI, sleeping position(s) and any underlying health conditions, and their PPP(posture and alignment, pressure relief and personal preferences. You may want to take a look at the the Mattress Specifications You Need To Know and the the Mattress Durability Guidelines to see how to examine specific components, and how different materials hold up over time.

Our bed has curved, very flexible slats, which have quite a lot of "give" to them. I have been told that a pure foam/latex mattress will tend to sag with this setup, and that it would be better to go with a hybrid mattress. Not sure if that's true, but certainly our current pure latex mattress feels like it's sagging (that may also be because it's nearly 10 years old).


If the space between slats is a little too wide, latex does have the tendency to sink into the spaces and give a saggy feel. A hybrid will likely give you a better experience.

You may wish to start with looking at SleepEZ , Nest Bedding and Arizona Premium as well as Flexus .

I hope this helps you get started.
NikkiTMU
16 Jul 2022 11:15
  • NikkiTMU
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Hi again!

A retailer/manufacturer in Florida who we love is Fox Mattress . They are in Holly Hill. You would need to call to see what they've got in stock but they deliver state (and nation)wide.

If someone with similar stats is able to chime in with what they've found, that'd be great! I'm happy to discuss DIY builds as well from top to bottom, all foam or hybrid, and sourcing the pieces. DIY Natural and DIY Mattress are good places to start.

The Sleep EZ organic and natural mattresses allow for customization as well. Of course, anyone who is sort of doing it for you in terms of putting the pieces together will be a little more expensive than doing it yourself.

The Flexus hybrid is a good and certainly durable option. I'm also happy to evaluate anything in your price and size range beyond our Trusted Members.

NikkiTMU
13 Jul 2022 16:47
  • JustinBrown
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Unfortunately, that mattress is not available to ship outside of Arizona, and I live in FL. Even if it did it would probably cost too much for shipping because they charge based on distance.

I have explored all of the other members as well and they are relatively similar, although not all of them keep it as a simple DIY design. Sleep EZ for example only has a zip-cover on the 360 Hybrid, and that one is a pillow-top I think, which I've had bad experiences with. DIYMattress.com did not answer the phone or call me back when I left a message, and they don't have their shipping/return policy on the webpage so I can't know what's going on with them. Flexus might have a good deal with their Hybrid, I was just hoping to be able to get it without the Combi-zone because I don't know if I need that. I'm not a big man.

I read the entire overview and beyond but I never found general recommendations based on statistics, which is why I asked here. I figured if there was someone with similar statistics I could copy them as a starting point. If that isn't an option, it seems like all I can do is guess which will probably end up badly.
07 Jul 2022 13:08
  • NikkiTMU
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Hi JCShumpert.

I hope your Flexus mattress is a great fit! If not, we're here to help you finagle it until it's right :)

NikkiTMU
05 Jul 2022 13:47
  • JCShumpert
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Thanks for responding. I was pretty sure replicating the feel of the Purple gel would be difficult/impossible.

I showed my wife some video reviews of full latex mattresses so she could see that they have some bounce to them. After talking with her about it more I think she really cares about the responsiveness of the mattress. We are coming from a memory foam mattress so anything will be an improvement in that regard.

I ended up ordering a 3 layer latex mattress from Flexuscomfort last night. I figured we’d start with that and give it a try. If that doesn’t work out we will try the hybrid route next.

Thanks again for chiming in.
12 Jun 2022 04:51
  • Sweet Dreams
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Not sure what lead you to believe that stacking toppers is not commonly recommended, but many sellers of all latex mattresses provide exactly that. TMU Trusted members Arizona Premium Mattress, Sleep EZ, Latex Mattress Factory, Flexus, and others offer full latex mattress models which are available in custom configurations, and are constructed of 3 to 4 layers of latex toppers enclosed within a mattress encasement. Such builds offer great flexibility and durability since layer ordering can be optimized as your needs may change and individual layers can be replaced as required over time.
10 Jun 2022 19:56
  • Basilio
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Hi rhemy1,

Do you have a suggestion for a full latex mattress no coils. I weigh 226 lbs and tend to sleep on ever side. I’m 5’ 11”

It is difficult to make any suggestions with certainty, as again a mattresses comfort and ability to provide support while you sleep is unique to you having a unique body type and needs and preferences. Thanks for providing additional stats; I will say that at a higher BMI, while you’ll need to put a special emphasis on more durable materials and constructions and probably on mattresses that are thicker have firmer comfort and support layers (firmer materials feel softer for heavier people and firmer support layers are usually important to for good alignment for higher weights). I would especially make sure you read Post #2 here that has some generic guidelines for different body types and sleeping positions and post #14 here has more about the benefits of thicker comfort layers and thicker mattresses. You will likely want to look at firmer-feeling mattresses to provide enough support and prevent any misalignment in your spine or joint pain, but not that firm that it created pressure points since you are a side sleeper. This is to say that I would definitely run all of this summarized info by the retailer/manufacturer themselves as they are the best to know how their mattresses and designs work with different body types, weights, and sleeping positions. Which is why it is so important to speak with someone knowledgeable rather than be given a “script response” from a sales rep that has little to no experience with how the mattress works.

Since it sounds like you are leaning towards an all latex mattress, some options from TMU trusted members list would include a DIY mattress construction under the direct supervision of a trusted member such as DIY Mattress , who allow you to create your own customized mattress, they have 2” and 3” layers of both Dunlop(this a denser, firmer latex with a ‘bouncy’ feel) and Talalay (A softer more responsive feel in case you like that better) of various firmness levels, allowing you to use for example, a Talalay layer at the top for comfort, with Dunlop below to provide support. By providing them your stats and sleeping preferences they can create a layered latex mattress which you can place on a base like a platform or adjustable bed frame.

Member Latex Mattress Factory specializes in mattresses for plus sized people and are extremely skilled in guiding consumers to good fit mattress on the DIY construction model, I would go for something with 10” of more of firmer natural latex mattress. (On the call I would make sure to mention the base model construction that you tested in the shop and liked) so that they get a better sense I’d start with these two and then see what other similar options you can find from other members that best fit your personal criteria (price, returns, warranties, and all else that is important to you) such as Flexus Comfort and CozyPure , who likewise offer all-latex mattresses. I have included a list below of all the trusted members who offer all-latex mattresses:
Arizona Premium Arizona SleepEZ Bay Bed & Mattress BioSleep Concept CBH Wood Furniture CozyPure DIY Mattress DIY Natural Bedding Dormio Organic Beds Flexus Comfort Mattress FloBeds Foam Sweet Foam Fox Mattress Gardner Mattress GhostBed Latex Mattress Factory Luma Sleep Mattress Makers Mattress To Go MFC My Green Mattress Nest Bedding Oklahoma Mattress Company Richmond Bedding Shepherd’s Dream Shovlin Mattress Factory Sleeping Organic Spindle Mattress Texas Mattress Makers The Beloit Mattress Company The Mattress Factory
It’s good to see that you started by eliminating the worst contenders then deciding the basics – the feel and firmness you want in a mattress, what materials or options you do or don’t want (like ‘no coils’) You are on the good track. Let us know how far you go and we’ll be happy to make additional comments on any of the mattresses you are considering.

Basilio
08 Jun 2022 19:32
  • Basilio
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Hi az333, and welcome to The Mattress Underground :)
Glad to have you here.

My partner and I are looking for a new king sized mattress and could really use some help. We are both tall (5’11 and 6’3) and both around 210-220 pounds. We’ve been doing some research, but are having a hard time finding the best option for our needs. Our main needs are:
1. excellent edge support (we both tend to sleep close to the edge and sit on it often)
2. minimal heat retention (we both sleep very hot and often get sweaty/wake up from being hot)
3. pretty firm (like a 7-8 on a scale of 1-10).
As far as sleep styles, we both toss and turn in the night so it’s important that we’re able to move around easily

A new mattress is an important purchase, and its’ good you are taking the time to take a look at your options since this is your first mattress. Any mattress is unique to the sleepers who sleep on it, and is based on your stats (height, BMI, sleeping position(s) and any underlying health conditions, if any), and your PPP(Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences). Thanks for providing you and your partners’ stats – you don’t say if you have any health issues or soreness on waking, but that you did not like the feel of the memory foam mattress you tried in a store.

First you may want to take a look at the mattress shopping tutorial to get an idea of what your options are, as well as the mattress specifications you need to know , and also the mattress durability guidelines to see how different components hold up over time. Both a hybrid latex and an all latex bed in firm or medium firm won’t present durability issues given your higher BMIs. So that’s a good direction thus far in terms of durability.

We’ve recently tried a memory foam mattress in store and really didn’t like it because of the restricted mobility and feeling like we were sinking into the mattress. I also prefer my mattress to have a bit of bounce otherwise it just feels dead to me.
(Side note: we’re both heavy sleepers so the whole motion isolation thing is not really a priority for us)Other than that, I primarily sleep on my stomach/side and he primarily sleeps on his back/side but we both prefer firm mattresses. We like feeling like we’re on top of the mattress rather than “in” it if that makes sense.

You have already identified some materials that you likely want to avoid, like memory foam, and as you are not concerned with motion isolation, you can likely not be concerned with a zoned latex. Since you both sleep very ‘hot’ you will want to look for mattresses that have a breathable layer closest to the sleepers – like cotton, wool, or coconut coir – to keep perspiration from gathering around your bodies while you sleep. As you both prefer firm mattresses, a firmer ILD latex mattress, or a hybrid with quality high density foam, along with a pocketed coil innerspring base with edge support, since you spend a lot of time on your bed besides sleeping, and you both prioritize firmness, this may be worth looking at.

We were able to try the saatva zenhaven in store and we really liked the firm side of it, but we felt like we should continue searching to see if there’s anything better for the money (it was $3k for the zenhaven). I was considering a custom latex mattress from flexus, but I’m concerned that an all latex mattress will not have good enough edge support. Currently, I’m mainly considering a latex/coil hybrid but can’t decide which brand to go for. I see that flexus, AP, sleepez and saatva have similar options but don’t know which would be best for our needs. I’m also willing to consider any other brand as long as it’under $3k. Do you have any recommendations? Would a latex/coil hybrid even be the best choice?
I also would like to note that when I’m at home, I spend a majority of the time on my bed (both sitting and laying down). I sometimes even do meetings from my bed, so it’s not just for sleep.

I took a look at the Saatva ZenHaven, which is a 10” flippable Latex mattress with a ‘plush’ side and a ‘luxury firm’ side. Latex is naturally more breathable than any other type of foams layers in between the latex layers but even though they do not list the thicknesses or (ILD – Indentation Layer Deflection, the higher the ILD the firmer the latex) so I’d make sure to get the comfort level to match up with your needs and that is approximating Saatva you tried. I am glad you both prefer firmer sleeping surfaces as those would be most appropriate for your stomach sleeping and your partner’s back sleeping. Additionally, firmer sleeping surfaces would sleep cooler as you won’t sink in too much and trap the body heat thus creating a hotter and more humid sleeping microclimate. Firmer surfaces will also help with sitting on the edge or mattress roll off. . You may want to look at these few readings about Sleeping style , and Higher BMI people . There is also more about the many variables that can affect the sleeping temperature of a mattress or sleeping system in post #2 that can help you choose the types of materials and components that are most likely to keep you in a comfortable temperature range., for more relevant details, but all in all you are on the right track with everything. Saatva uses a proprietary 100% natural Dunlop latex which is a little firmer than Talalay latex in the same ILD. So that’s a good choice of a material as well. Latex is a little lower on the scale when it comes to motion isolation than memory foam but that is not important criteria for you.

For a 3k budget – you should be able to find a lot of offerings under that price. The other manufacturers you mention – Flexus Comfort , Arizona Premium and Arizona SleepEZ Factory are all trusted members of the site, and all are transparent regarding the materials and construction of their mattresses but above all they have great customer support and help to find the best comfort option that would be a perfect fit for you both sleepers. . If you can provide them with a little information, and the concerns stated above, they will strive to match you with a mattress that suits you both and will last a long time. In the end, though, keep in mind that only you and your partner can determine what works for you. To address the edge support issue, you may want to read this Phoenix post here .

Because of its point elasticity though ... those who sit on the very outside edge a lot (instead of sitting with your body weight more into the middle of the mattress) or who sleep with more concentrated weight on the outside few inches of their mattress may find themselves sinking down more than they like even though this isn't normally an issue when sleeping on the mattress. For those who prefer a firmer edge then there are a few latex mattresses that use what's called a "racetrack" perimeter where the outer few inches of the latex support core is surrounded with a firmer foam. Unfortunately, most of the time this firmer foam is a much less durable (but firmer) polyfoam which will soften and break down sooner than the latex and what starts out as a positive can become a negative over time (depending on the density of the polyfoam this can sometimes be a fairly short time). Because of this it would be much better to use firmer latex in those cases where perimeter support is preferred rather than less durable polyfoam but this is an uncommon construction for latex.
In most cases though ... a latex support layer that is firm enough relative to body weight of the person sleeping on the mattress will be fine for most people.

I am not sure if any of our trusted members provide edge support on their products, but if you are set on that, you can call any of them and inquire...for example, members DIY Mattress and also Latex Mattress Factory botth are experienced with providing custom latex mattresses, so they may be a good place to start.

I wish you success on your mattress journey!

Basilio
06 Jun 2022 17:44
  • az333
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Hi, this is my first time posting here (and first time buying a mattress) so I apologize if this out of place.

My partner and I are looking for a new king sized mattress and could really use some help. We are both tall (5’11 and 6’3) and both around 210-220 pounds. We’ve been doing some research, but are having a hard time finding the best option for our needs.

Our main needs are:
1. excellent edge support (we both tend to sleep close to the edge and sit on it often)
2. minimal heat retention (we both sleep very hot and often get sweaty/wake up from being hot)
3. pretty firm (like a 7-8 on a scale of 1-10).

As far as sleep styles, we both toss and turn in the night so it’s important that we’re able to move around easily. We’ve recently tried a memory foam mattress in store and really didn’t like it because of the restricted mobility and feeling like we were sinking into the mattress. I also prefer my mattress to have a bit of bounce otherwise it just feels dead to me (Side note: we’re both heavy sleepers so the whole motion isolation thing is not really a priority for us) Other than that, I primarily sleep on my stomach/side and he primarily sleeps on his back/side but we both prefer firm mattresses. We like feeling like we’re on top of the mattress rather than “in” it if that makes sense.

We were able to try the saatva zenhaven in store and we really liked the firm side of it, but we felt like we should continue searching to see if there’s anything better for the money (it was $3k for the zenhaven). I was considering a custom latex mattress from flexus, but I’m concerned that an all latex mattress will not have good enough edge support. Currently, I’m mainly considering a latex/coil hybrid but can’t decide which brand to go for. I see that flexus, AP, sleepez and saatva have similar options but don’t know which would be best for our needs. I’m also willing to consider any other brand as long as it’s under $3k. Do you have any recommendations? Would a latex/coil hybrid even be the best choice?

I also would like to note that when I’m at home, I spend a majority of the time on my bed (both sitting and laying down). I sometimes even do meetings from my bed, so it’s not just for sleep.
13 May 2022 14:04
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Hi NikkTMU,

Thank you for your response! I tried out the Nest and thought it was nice — about the right firmness, great pressure relief. But I'd really like to avoid polyfoam because of concern about VOCs, and unfortunately it's quilted rather thickly into the top layer. I'm now thinking I'd like to try a mattress that doesn't have such a thick top layer above the latex, and add a wool topper for surface softness.

Unfortunately, I don't have enough time within the return window to try a topper on the Charles P Rogers bed. It's already so thick that I've been resisting this option, and now this is what I get for waffling.

At this point I'm considering just trying the Avocado or perhaps the MyGreenMattress Natural Escape, which should be somewhat less firm than the Avocado (it has 3" of 24 ILD Dunlop, vs 2"). Am I correct in thinking that a 1 or 2-inch layer of soft Talalay over 2 or 3 inches of 24 ILD Dunlop could be comfortable? Is there reason to think that one of these options would be better than the other, if I'm anticipating needing to add a topper?

I'm also considering the Flexus QuadraFlex, which would give me the benefit of split Talalay layers that can be exchanged for a different firmness.
10 May 2022 12:35
  • BillyIdol
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Look into something adjustable.

1-Flobed Vzone...infinitely flexible. Latex. Im not a fan of latex, but don't let that stop you.
2-Flexus Comfort 13 inch mattress. Latex with 4 ...3 inch layers of latex that can be modified. You get 1 core exchange. King size? $1984. I actually went there to lay on the beds. All latex for you is definitely the was to go over the latex hybrid. All latex gives you 4 layers to manipulate.
3-Arizona Premium...latex. Call them up to see what they say.

I like VZone for you because you have a the top layer Vzone that is adjustable which is perfect for you. I think the Tempurpedic Pro Adapt Medium might work well for you. I thought the Pro Adapt Medium was so sumptuous and luxurious. Its not for me because I weigh 225 and you weight 165. I sank too far into it. I guess you can try Costco beds because of the return policy...all it costs you is time.

Dark horse entry would be Intellibed Matrix Supreme (soft). They have a whole series of 5 Matrix beds. The "Supreme" surname changes....for example Matrix Deluxe. It was hard to decide between the 5 Matrix Intellibed beds. But the sales guy at Mathis Brothers (Ontario, California) stated that the Intellibed Matrix Supreme was the bestseller in the Intellibed line. Supposedly, Intellibed can be firm and soft at the same time. Purple beds are a derivative of Intellibed. Some here hate Purple Bed.....but only your opinion matters.

I was not sold on the Intellibed buckling gel matrix and felt that Tempurpedic was better for me.

When you try your mattresses, try to test them all in the same day. Go back several times to a store even if you get irritating.

I will extrapolate to make an educated guess....go with Flobeds Vzone or Tempurpedic....but do what you want and try them all. Ignore all reviews and opinions including mine.


John
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