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23 Aug 2016 21:52
  • phoenix
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Hi Rollins2016,

Do you have any cost effective recommendations for what to put the mattress on?


There is more information about the different support systems (bedframes and foundations or platform beds) that are generally suitable for different types of mattresses and some examples of each of them in post #1 here but most of them have a slatted support surface so you may need to modify them and add some plywood on top of them so that the support surface is solid.

Also, can you tell me what a similiar mattress to the dormeo 6700 would cost? Please be honest, I really want to know how much I lost!


I don't know the specs of the Dormeo 6700 and they don't list them on their website and I also don't know of any other mattress that is similar so there isn't another mattress to compare it to that I could use as a frame of reference. There are certainly other good quality memory foam mattresses that are in lower budget ranges but they also have a completely different design with different materials and components so they wouldn't be apples to apples comparisons.

There is more about the 3 most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase in post #13 here which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on suitability, durability, and all the other parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for).

While price is certainly important of course .. the "value" of a mattress purchase is what is most important and price is just one of many factors that can affect the "value" of a mattress purchase. There isn't a "formula" that can be used to assess or "calculate" the value of a mattress because there are so many different variables and criteria involved that can affect the price of a mattress that can each be more or less important to some people and not to others who may have completely different criteria or definitions of "value". The value of a mattress purchase is also relative to how a mattress compares to the other finalists you are considering or to other mattresses that are available to you in your area (or online if you are also considering online options). There are many reasons that a mattress that may be "good value" for one person or in one area of the country may not be good value for someone else that has very different needs and preferences or that lives in a different area.

How well are you sleeping on your mattress?

Phoenix
23 Aug 2016 21:27
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Thanks Phoenix,

Mine is a queen size. I watched a youtube video and i think it is around 12.5 inch profile?

I don't think I will go back to sleep country to buy their "approved" sets since they are probably overpriced.
Do you have any cost effective recommendations for what to put the mattress on?

Also, can you tell me what a similiar mattress to the dormeo 6700 would cost? Please be honest, I really want to know how much I lost!

Thanks a lot for your help!
23 Aug 2016 20:38
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Hi Rollins,

I'm sorry to hear that you are unhappy with the Dormeo mattress you purchased.

Are there anything specific I should look out for? Or would a typical ikea frame work?


A mattress with a polyfoam support core (regardless of the material in the comfort layers) will generally do best with a firm, flat, and evenly supportive support surface underneath it that has minimal to no flex under the mattress and for larger sizes with at least one center support beam that has good support to the floor to prevent any sagging in the middle of the mattress. The components (either a bedframe and foundation or a platform bed) need to be strong and durable enough to support the weight of the mattress and the people sleeping on it without some of the parts bending, sagging, shifting, or breaking with extended use. The support surface under the mattress (which may be slats or a solid surface or a steel or wire grid) should have enough surface area to prevent the mattress from sagging through any gaps or spaces in the support surface over time but still allow some airflow under the mattress. If a foundation has a slatted surface then I would suggest that the gaps between any slats are no more than about 5" (with 1 x 3 slats) although less than 4" would be better yet.

Having said that ... some manufacturers have specific criteria that they require to meet their warranty conditions which may be different from these more general guidelines and in this case you should always follow the manufacturers recommendations.

Dormeo is one of these ... probably because their base layers include foam cylinders instead of solid layers of foam ... and their warranty page here says ...

DORMEO' Octaspring' mattresses are designed to work on a firm, solid-surface, non-spring foundation or adjustable bed base that is structurally capable of supporting the weight of purchaser's DORMEO' Octaspring mattress and user(s). This limited warranty and other performance warranties are based on tests conducted on 'sets' that consist of our mattresses and our foundations/adjustable bed bases. THEREFORE, IF PURCHASER USES INAPPROPRIATE FOUNDATIONS, BOX SPRINGS, ADJUSTABLE BED BASES, OR BED FRAMES WITH THIS MATTRESS, SUCH USE WILL VOID THIS LIMITED WARRANTY AND ALL OTHER WARRANTIES, WHETHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. DORMEO' Octaspring may require purchaser to provide proof of the quality of the foundation, adjustable bed base, or bed frame used in conjunction with the mattress if purchaser makes a claim under this limited warranty. DORMEO' Octaspring reserves the right to invalidate this limited warranty if the foundation is determined, in DORMEO' Octaspring's reasonable discretion, to be inadequate.


The Ikea bed bases have a slatted support surface and Dormeo specifies a solid surface so I would check with Dormeo to make sure that any specific Ikea bedframe and foundation or platform bed you are considering wouldn't invalidate your warranty. It's possible that the Lonset may be acceptable because the slats are very close together but you would need to check with them to make sure.

Phoenix
23 Aug 2016 20:05
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Hi Everyone,

New here. I regret not doing proper research before making a significant purchase. Brought a dormeo 6700 mattress for $1900 CAD. There is no refunds as well. I feel ripped off.. Not sure if the mattress is worth it. It is memory foam but there aren't much reviews.

Anyways, damage has been done. I am looking to get a bed frame for it. Are there anything specific I should look out for? Or would a typical ikea frame work?

Thank you for the help!
25 May 2016 09:33
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Hi blackviolet,

Even with the Tempurpedics that we didn't care for much, the quality just felt sooo much better than everything else we tried.


I would keep in mind that you can't "feel" the quality or durability of a mattress.

We tried icomfort (the savant III was nice), Stearns and foster (the one we felt was nicest was called "Topazolite Firm Tight Top", but I can't find it anywhere online), Ez Rest Gel Luxe Arctic (can't find that online either), some Primo ones that were terrible, some awful Dormeo ones, an alright Sherwood ones, and some Spring Air ones.
Imagine my disappointment when I couldn't find many details for most of them.


It's usually a good idea to make sure that a retailer or manufacturer will provide you with the specs of their mattresses (see this article ) before you visit them. One of the most frustrating parts of mattress shopping can be spending time testing a mattress and finding out that you like it and it's a good match for you in terms of firmness, "feel" and PPP only to find out that the mattress contains low quality and less durable materials and/or that information you need to identify any lower quality materials or weak links in the mattress or make meaningful comparisons to other mattresses isn't available and you've wasted the time you spent testing the mattress.

Anyway, we loved the Tempur Cloud Luxe Breeze for the texture mainly, but my fiancé loved the cooling aspect as well. It's not a necessity, but it was nice, as he's a hot sleeper.


I would keep in mind that while gel materials can have some effect on sleeping temperature when you first go to sleep at night ... once temperatures equalize the cooling effect doesn't normally last over the course of the night.

While it's not possible to quantify the sleeping temperature of a mattress for any particular person with any real accuracy because there are so many variables involved including the type of mattress protector and the sheets and bedding that you use (which in many cases can have just as significant an effect on sleeping temperature as the type of foam in a mattress) and on where you are in the "oven to iceberg" range and because there is no standardized testing for temperature regulation with different combinations of materials ... there is more about the many variables that can affect the sleeping temperature of a mattress or sleeping system in post #2 here that can help you choose the types of materials and components that are most likely to keep you in a comfortable temperature range.

The problem is that I don't think we tried the regular old Cloud Luxe. (I think we may have and thought it was just a little too soft.) My question for the people who have tried them is, do you think that the Breeze version has a slightly different texture?


This is so subjective that different people can have different opinions about how two "similar" mattresses compare but I think that most people would probably say that the Breeze version was slightly "stiffer".

My second question is that I've come across an outstanding deal for the Cloud Luxe. It's new, but it's a close out because it's the 2012-2014 version...? Have they updated it since then? What is different and how will it effect it?


If a store is selling a mattress that old then it's very possible that it could be a comfort return or a warranty return or worse (see post #2 here and post #8 here ). I would treat this type of purchase as "buyer beware".

Tempurpedic doesn't disclose the specs of their mattresses but as far as I know the specs of the old Cloud Luxe were ...

Comfort Layers
2.75" 4.1LB Tempur ES Comfort Layer
2" 7.1 LB Tempur HD Support Layer

Support System
Dual Airflow System
4" 2.2 LB Convoluted Base Foam
4" 2.2 LB Convoluted Base Foam

And the new Cloud Luxe are ...

Comfort Layers
3.5" Tempur-ES 4.1LB
2" Tempur HD 7.1LB

Support System
Dual Airflow System
4" Airflow Base Layer 2.0LB
4" Airflow Base Layer 2.0LB

Again ... different people can have different opinions about how two mattresses compare so the only way to know how they would compare for you would be based on your own personal testing or experience but I think most people would probably say that the new version would be slightly softer.

Post #2 here about Tempurpedic may be worth reading as well.

And, since I'm posting this already, and haven't had a chance to research this on here yet, what do you think of the Tempflow Celestia? Are they a decent brand? I like that they seem to be more eco-friendly, but does anyone have experience with their mattresses?


I would be very cautious about brand shopping in general because you are buying a specific mattress not the brand and most manufacturers have access to the same or similar components and materials. Many manufacturers make a wide range of mattresses that can vary from lower quality and less durable materials to higher quality and more durable materials in a wide range of prices. The name of the manufacturer on the label or the price of the mattress won't tell you anything about whether a specific mattress is suitable for you in terms of "comfort", firmness, and PPP or whether there are any lower quality materials or weak links in the design that would affect the durability and useful life of the mattress.

Having said that ... you can see my general comments about Relief Mart and Tempflow in post #9 here . They use good quality materials and are transparent about the materials in their mattresses.

A forum search on Tempflow (you can just click the link) will bring up more comments and feedback about them as well.

I would keep in mind that memory foam and polyfoam in general are also not "green" or "eco friendly" materials and these types of descriptions are more about marketing than reality.

Phoenix
25 May 2016 03:50
  • blackviolet
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Hi, this is my first post. I read the tutorial, and I've been reading the forums. I have a couple of questions.

We're looking for a memory foam mattress. My fiancé and I went to 5 mattress shops today, and laid on a ton of them. We don't like the hybrids or the ones with latex that we tried.

I never intended to care about the expensive brands, I was mainly going in to feel what we liked, then planned to go home and see what the layers were made of, and find a comparable, less expensive version.

But our hands down favorite among them all was the Temper-pedicure Tempur Cloud Luxe Breeze. We kept coming back to it. Nothing else felt nearly as lush and perfect for us both, though we also really like the Tempur Cloud Elite.

The Contour Rhapsody Luxe was in 3rd place, but was a bit too firm.

Even with the Tempurpedics that we didn't care for much, the quality just felt sooo much better than everything else we tried.

We tried icomfort (the savant III was nice), Stearns and foster (the one we felt was nicest was called "Topazolite Firm Tight Top", but I can't find it anywhere online), Ez Rest Gel Luxe Arctic (can't find that online either), some Primo ones that were terrible, some awful Dormeo ones, an alright Sherwood ones, and some Spring Air ones.
Imagine my disappointment when I couldn't find many details for most of them.

He is 6'1" and 170lbs. I'm 5'4" and can fluctuate between 105-120lbs. He has back problems, I have hip problems. We're mainly side sleepers.

Anyway, we loved the Tempur Cloud Luxe Breeze for the texture mainly, but my fiancé loved the cooling aspect as well. It's not a necessity, but it was nice, as he's a hot sleeper.

The problem is that I don't think we tried the regular old Cloud Luxe. (I think we may have and thought it was just a little too soft.) My question for the people who have tried them is, do you think that the Breeze version has a slightly different texture?

My second question is that I've come across an outstanding deal for the Cloud Luxe. It's new, but it's a close out because it's the 2012-2014 version...? Have they updated it since then? What is different and how will it effect it?

And, since I'm posting this already, and haven't had a chance to research this on here yet, what do you think of the Tempflow Celestia? Are they a decent brand? I like that they seem to be more eco-friendly, but does anyone have experience with their mattresses?

Thank you!
03 May 2016 15:02
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Hi Msabq323,

The salesman said this is a whole new line, with the others from last year being discontinued. Our model is aDX220. On their website their is nothing like that. The dimensions are not like any on their website. Have you heard of this new line? The salesman said they just got them 30 days ago. I'm hoping it's not going to be too hard.


As you mentioned there isn't any information on their site about their DX220 mattress.

There is more about the 3 most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase in post #13 here which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on suitability, durability, and all the other parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for).

While nobody can speak to how any specific mattress will "feel" for someone else because this is too subjective and relative to different body types, sleeping positions, and individual preferences, sensitivities, and circumstances and you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress ... outside of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) which is the most important part of "value", the next most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you can't see or "feel" and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the specifics of its construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label (or how a mattress feels in a showroom or when it is relatively new) so I would always make sure that you find out information listed here so you can compare the materials and components to the quality/durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.

Hopefully you had the chance to do some careful testing on the mattress (using the testing guidelines in the tutorial) to make sure that it's a good "match" for you in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP but if you didn't have the chance to test the mattress in person or if for any reason you aren't confident about whether it would be a suitable choice in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP then I would always make sure that you are comfortable with the options you have after a purchase to exchange the mattress or return it for a refund (and any costs involved) just in case the choice you made doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for.

I also hope that you were able to find out all the information you need to make an informed choice about the quality and durability of the materials in the mattress and confirm that there are no lower quality materials or weak links in the mattress that could compromise the durability and useful life of the mattress.

A good retailer should be able to provide you with all the information you need to know about the type and quality of the materials and components in any mattress they sell so if you can find out the information in this article about the mattress specifications you need to know that I linked earlier in this reply and post it on the forum I'd be happy to make some comments about the quality and durability of the materials and components in the mattress and the mattress "as a whole".

Without this information it's not possible to make any meaningful comments about a mattress or to assess whether the mattress is likely to maintain the comfort and support that is the reason you purchased it over a reasonable period of time.

Phoenix
03 May 2016 14:34
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Hi phoenix,

Just bought a Dormeo, it will be delivered next week. The salesman said this is a whole new line, with the others from last year being discontinued. Our model is aDX220. On their website their is nothing like that. The dimensions are not like any on their website. Have you heard of this new line? The salesman said they just got them 30 days ago. I'm hoping it's not going to be too hard.
21 Apr 2016 12:48
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Hi paddyb,

perhaps indicating that the top layer of foam is too thin?

I think there is some mileage in the octopspring idea, it perhaps needs some more refining or perhaps just wasn’t right for me


All the layers and components in a mattress will have some effect on the feel and performance of all the other layers above and below it and on the mattress "as a whole". While the top layer may have been too thin "for you" and the mattress may not have been a good match for you in terms of "comfort", firmness, and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own personal preferences) ... it's very likely that others that are in a different weight range or have a different sleeping style or that are more or less sensitive to specific materials and components in a mattress may have very different opinions.

Regardless of the specific design of a mattress ... a mattress may be "perfect" for some people and may be completely unsuitable for others to sleep on. The only thing that can be said with any certainty about the Dormeo design would be that the specific Dormeo mattress you own doesn't seem to be a good "match" for either of you.

Phoenix
21 Apr 2016 12:35
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My experience is somewhat similar to Manitoba’s with the feeling of something digging in to me. I think it might be where there are gaps between the octosprings, perhaps indicating that the top layer of foam is too thin?

I solved this somewhat by adding a memory foam topper, but then it felt a bit too soft and I started to get back aches. After a week, it’s starting to feel a bit better, but after reading these last two posts I have decided to return it with the 60 day guarantee. They didn’t make too much fuss when I phoned them to request this, they even said I could keep the pillows!

I think there is some mileage in the octopspring idea, it perhaps needs some more refining or perhaps just wasn’t right for me. The mattress had quite a unique feel to it, nothing like a sprung mattress at all, but was different to the foam mattresses I’ve tried, much more of an impression of the support action working through the whole depth of the mattress.

The quest continues…
19 Apr 2016 10:39
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Hi Tanzanite.

Thanks for taking the time to share your comments and feedback.

You are certainly having your share of challenges in finding a suitable mattress (see your other topic here and my reply) and I'm sorry to hear that your Dormeo mattress was another in a long list of mattress that hasn't worked out as well as you hoped for.

For the sake of others that are reading this ... I think that the issue with your mattress may not be as much about a poor design or zoning (because this is relative to the specific needs and preferences of the person on the mattress) but because it just wasn't a suitable "match" for you and some of the health challenges you are facing (although if the memory foam layer has split then it would probably be a defect and would most likely qualify for a warranty replacement).

Each person is unique and a mattress that is a perfect "match" for one person may be completely unsuitable for someone else to sleep on.

Phoenix
19 Apr 2016 05:49
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I just got rid of my 8500 after 18 months, it is terrible, vastly ovepriced and over hyped. While it may work for some, the zoning is bad. Mine ended up with a head part which never broke in as it was too firm,neither did the hip part but the softer shoulder part got softer and softer so the bottom of my neck was cricked with the top of my head on an upward slope ad all my weight into that one shoulder. I had headaches and neckaches every day.No pillow ever worked on it and I tried every type you could think of. You could visably see indentations all over, some parts higher some lower. I see others now complaining of the same thing and that the upper thin layer of memory foam has split as well. I didn't claim on the warranty because quite frankly I didn't want another one it was so bad. I could never get into a comfy position and I was so restless, I was waking 30 times a night on it. The first 3 months were good but that was it.
14 Apr 2016 23:27
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I purchased a Dormeo mattress 3 wks ago. At first it was wonderful and then I started to feel lumps like fingers poking me around the waist area. As the weeks progressed the lumps have turned to bars in several areas that poke my body. I have fibromyalgia so sleeping is hell since all my trigger points are being pushed causing pain. I wake up every day with a sore back and hips. I'm a side sleeper and sometimes on the back . Even thought the mattress isn't sagging it feels like the far side is higher when I lie there. I wanted to share this with you. I asked someone else to lie on the bed and they did not like the feel of the mattress. It is also a very warm mattress.
14 Apr 2016 08:23
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Hi Manitoba,

Every time I try to reply my reply disappears.


I'm not sure what may be happening and I know how frustrating that can be from personal experience but I've learned over the course of many years of posting on a forum that it's usually a good idea to highlight and save your reply before clicking the submit button just in case something goes wrong so you don't lose all the time you spent composing your reply.

I am limited as to what to choose since I spent $3000 and most double mattresses are considerably lower in price except the Sealy , Kingsdown and Temuerpedic. Sleep Country told me that since this is a comfort exchange I will receive no refund if I choose a lower priced mattress. I can exchange the mattress but at a loss if I can't find one of equal or close to equal value. This is very upsetting. .


Hopefully the suggestions in my previous reply can help you make the "best possible" choice in your circumstances. Of course you are also welcome to post any specific questions you may have that I can help with as well.

My biggest caution would be as much as possible to try and avoid or minimize the amount of lower quality and less durable materials or "unknown" materials in whichever mattress you end up choosing.

Phoenix
14 Apr 2016 07:54
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Every time I try to reply my reply disappears. I am limited as to what to choose since I spent $3000 and most double mattresses are considerably lower in price except the Sealy , Kingsdown and Temuerpedic. Sleep Country told me that since this is a comfort exchange I will receive no refund if I choose a lower priced mattress. I can exchange the mattress but at a loss if I can't find one of equal or close to equal value. This is very upsetting. .
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