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11 Jun 2018 20:30
  • Luma Sleep
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Hello Alleygray,

Thank for reaching out to The Mattress Underground. The Dormeo Octaspring mattress system is very unique and proprietary, making it difficult to impossible to get detailed information on the components. You seem to have made excellent progress in getting as much information as you have. Dormeo has been selling in the US and Canada since about 2010, with mixed reviews. People seem to either love it or hate it. We have not been able to find any info/data on the long-term durability of the springs. There is additional information on Dormeo in TMU such as: www.themattressunderground.com/mattress-forum/index/21115-dormeo-quality-going-forward.html, and
www.themattressunderground.com/mattress-forum/index/16315-another-newbie.html?start=10#42717. All we did was search Dormeo on TMU to take advantage of the TMU archives.

The Silk and Snow product appears to be a "solid" bed-in-a-box memory foam mattress. It's going to be very different than the Dormeo 6800 as its layers are dense vs. the airiness of Dormeo's Octosprings. A large part of the price difference with SnS being sold online vs. Dormeo in retail stores.
Your stated back health concerns make the matter of proper spinal alignment a primary consideration. We suggest this be the primary factor in your decision making between these 2 mattresses. We do not have relevant information to provide a factual recommendation. Intuitively, Dormeo's Octosprings would seem to better adapt and align your spine while sleeping on your side.

Hope this helps!

Team Luma
11 Jun 2018 09:24
  • Alleygray
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Hi there, I have been on a long search for a mattress I can be happy with for a reasonable amount of time, that wont sag horribly after 6 months to a few years. I have tried quite a few, I currently have a 2 year old kingdown that is horribly saggy and want to get something I wont regret buying. I have come across the dormeo 6800, and though it is quite comfortable, I cant seem to find all the information on densities. The top layer is 1" of 5 lb memory foam, and the ecosprings appear to be 5 lb density also, the ecocell 5"base is 4 lb density...and the .5" ecocell support layers in between the springs are 5lb. I received this information directly from the contact number on dormeo website. Will the spring structure hold up over time?
The silk and snow is 6" of 1.8 polyfoam, with 2" responsive high performance 2.7 foam, then 2" 4 lb memory foam.
The silk and snow is almost half the price of the dormeo, so I guess my questions are, how long do you suspect these will last, do you know of any weak spots that may make one choice better than the other. What is the likelyhood of sagging.
I dont mind spending the extra money on the dormeo if it will stand the test of time, but I am unsure of the durability of the "springs", or the ecocell transition layers.
I am a side sleeper but also move a lot and change positions. I have a herniated c7 disc along with a compressed disc in my lower back so I am looking for good support and reasonable pressure relief. My husband and I are both around the 150 lb mark, and we are looking to get a king.
11 Jun 2018 09:16
  • Alleygray
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Ah right. Yes I am looking to start a new topic on dormeo. I am unsure how...sorry about that
11 Jun 2018 07:40
  • Dormio Organic Beds
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HI Alleygray, Thank you for your question. Please note that Dormeo is a different company than Dormio Organic Beds. At Dormio, we use only 100% natural dunlop latex in our mattresses. This latex is arguably the most durable material to use, so if you are looking for long term service life from your mattress, it is the best choice. We have a ton of information on our websites "learn" page -- please have a look and let me know if I can answer any further questions.
10 Jun 2018 16:06
  • droidx
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thanks. I appreciate it. I was watching the video at this link...www.themattressunderground.com/videos/create_new_topic.mp4
and it seems the topic button should be everywhere else too.
10 Jun 2018 15:43
  • Sweet Dreams
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@droidx - Think I might have the solution for you. The "New Topic" button only seems to be an available option when you're in the Expert Member Section at the top level of a member's section. Here's a link to that level in this Dormio section as an example where you should see the green "New Topic" button: www.themattressunderground.com/mattress-forum/dormio-organic-beds.html Logically this makes some sense since the top level is where it would be suitable to create a new topic. Hope this helps!
10 Jun 2018 14:49
  • droidx
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gotta ask...how did you start a new topic? cant figure it out
thanks
10 Jun 2018 12:54
  • Alleygray
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Hi there, I have been on a long search for a mattress I can be happy with for a reasonable amount of time, that wont sag horribly after 6 months to a few years. I have tried quite a few, I currently have a 2 year old kingdown that is horribly saggy and want to get something I wont regret buying. I have come across the dormeo 6800, and though it is quite comfortable, I cant seem to find all the information on densities. The top layer is 1" of 5 lb memory foam, and the ecosprings appear to be 5 lb density also, the ecocell 5"base is 2 lb density...and am not sure about the .5" ecocell support layers in between the springs. Even with this information it is not directly from dormeo si I am unsure of accuracy.
The silk and snow is 6" of 1.8 polyfoam, with 2" responsive high performance 2.7 foam, then 2" 4 lb memory foam.
The silk and snow is almost half the price of the dormeo, so I guess my questions are, how long do you suspect these will last, do you know of any weak spots that may make one choice better than the other. What is the likelyhood of sagging.
I dont mind spending the extra money on the dormeo if it will stand the test of time, but I am unsure of the durability of the "springs", or the ecocell transition layers.
I am a side sleeper but also move a lot and change positions. I have a herniated c7 disc along with a compressed disc in my lower back so I am looking for good support and reasonable pressure relief. My husband and I are both around the 150 lb mark, and we are looking to get a king.
11 Jan 2018 15:36
  • MattressToGo
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MaryD,

Is there a list of recommended mattresses anywhere on this site?


The moderator of this site doesn't recommend mattresses, but instead focuses upon education and how to choose a quality mattress anywhere you visit. There is a list of manufacturing members of the forum here .

I read the mattress tutorial (mostly) and understand about the PPP but there is so much on the market that it’s extremely overwhelming and I am honestly overwhelmed with information


If you focus on the steps outlined in the tutorial you have all of the information you need to know to select a product (or avoid a certain product) anywhere you visit. But you have to read through those steps. There are some other guidelines listed here as well. At the very least, taking the time to read trough that material will assist you in determining if a retailer has good knowledge, and who then might be able to guide you.

The small retailers that you recommend are no where near my locations except for Dormio where the sets start at $5k!


Just for reference, I don't recommend any brands. I'm just a forum member here on the site who helps to answer questions.

Jeff Scheuer, The Beducator
Beducation / Mattress To Go
11 Jan 2018 15:14
  • MaryD
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Thanks for you reply. Is there a list of recommended mattresses anywhere on this site? I read the mattress tutorial (mostly) and understand about the PPP but there is so much on the market that it’s extremely overwhelming and I am honestly overwhelmed with information. This site says to stay away from all the big brands but they are really all I know. The small retailers that you recommend are no where near my locations except for Dormio where the sets start at $5k!
Please help!
11 Jan 2018 13:48
  • MattressToGo
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Hey MaryD,

I'm sorry, but I'm not completely familiar with the Doremo line of mattresses. However, I did find a post with some good links about this line of products discussed previously here on the forum .

Regarding the Natura mattress, this is using totally different componentry and everything you listed would be a good quality material (Dunlop and Talalay latex). This is very different from the polyurethane foam and the memory foam used in the Dormeo mattress you mentioned.

As both mattresses are available for you to test out in person, that is a major bonus for you.

I can't pick a mattress for you or tell what may or may not work best for you specific situation. I think something good for you to read would be the mattress shopping tutorial on this site, which helps guide people through their mattress shopping process. Here is a link to that .

As for off-gassing, everything off-gasses something. There's a really good post about this that's commonly copied on the forum that you may find interesting. I'll copy it here for you (no need for me to reinvent the wheel):

Most people that are looking for an "organic" mattress or materials are usually concerned more with "safety" than whether the materials have an actual organic certification and they usually aren't aware that an organic certification isn't the same thing as a safety certification. There is more information about the three different levels of organic certifications in post #2 here and some of the benefits of an organic certification in post #3 here and there is more about the different types of organic and safety certifications such as Oeko-tex, Eco-Institut, Greenguard Gold, C2C, and CertiPUR-US in post #2 here and more about some of the differences between organic and safety certifications in post #2 here and there are also some comments in post #42 here that can help you decide whether an organic certification is important to you for environmental, social, or personal reasons or whether a "safety" certification is enough.

The Natura mattress you're considering would generally be able to pass more stringent testing for harmful substances and VOCs.

Also, once you pick a mattress, make sure to reevaluate your pillow to assist with your neck issues.

That's the best advice I can give you for products about which I am not completely familiar. Good luck!

Jeff Scheuer, The Beducator
Beducation / Mattress To Go
11 Jan 2018 12:26
  • MaryD
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The breakdown of DORMEO is as follows:

1" PCM Infused Cool ACTIV HD Memory Foam (5 lb) Comfort Layer
OCTASPRING ™ Technology Support System:

Top Layer:
2 Layers of 2" Firm EcoSprings™ sandwiched with .5"
Ecocell™ Support Layers top and bottom Base Layer
5" Ecocell (2.0 lb) Support Core

I am also looking at a Natura latex mattress for roughly the same price:

Cotton and wool blend ticking
4.2 lbs of pure NaturaWool™
1” all-natural Dunlop latex quilted to the cover
1” soft Talalay natural latex top layer
2” medium Talalay natural latex
6” medium-firm Talalay natural latex support core

Please help compare!
Thanks!
11 Jan 2018 10:54
  • MaryD
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I just put a deposit down on a DORMEO medium mattress from sleep county and then I found this board. Even though the bed felt great in the store, I realize I haven’t done enough reaseach and this might not be made of the best materials or be supportive in the long term. I really liked the way the bed was conforming without the sinking down feeling as with most memory foam beds. I am a side sleeper (sometimes back) with shoulder and neck pain so really need good contouring but I don’t like the quick sand feeling of most memory foam mattresses. My husband has sleep apnea and we are both concerned with motion transfer. I am also concerned with chemical off gassing and would like the healthiest choice.

After doing some reading here, I realize I need a firm support core (either latex or pocket coil sounds like the best from reading here) and a soft comfort layer (latex or high quality memory foam and /or natural Fiber).

My budget is in $2000 range. Can you please recommend the best mattress for me? Would the DORMEO meet these needs? Or is it just sleep country’s money making line?
Thanks!
12 Oct 2017 13:40
  • phoenix
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Hi fishv12,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :)

I came close to purchasing a 3500$ Dormeo 8700 and actually put an order together before I read this forum and then walked in Sleep Country and cancelled my order. Suddenly I could get the mattress for 900$ less go figure. What a ripoff! Either way I canceled my order.


I’m sorry about your bad mattress shopping experience. It is off-putting to find out that some retailers will dramatically lower the price if you threaten to walk out the door, but will be perfectly happy to charge you a much higher price if you are more “agreeable” during your shopping experience.

The other mattress that felt very comfortable to me was the Tempurpedic Cloud Supreme Breeze so I am looking for similar options. I then looked at the Novosbed which according to my research is well built although being at 320lbs right now with chronic pain due to a whiplash injury I would like my mattress to last and be comfortable for many years to come and the polyfoam core is a weak link in that situation.


For those of a higher BMI, post #3 here has more information and suggestions about higher BMIs that is worth reading.

Higher BMI ranges will need more durable materials and components in a mattress and in a BMI range of 30 or higher I would include any 1.8 lb polyfoam or 4 lb memory foam as a "lower quality/density" material (relative to a higher BMI only) and minimize their use to a total of "about an inch or so or less" in the mattress.

Polyurethane foam: If your mattress is one sided then I would look for 2.0 lb per cubic foot density or higher. If the mattress is two sided then I would use a minimum density of 1.8 lbs per cubic foot or higher.

Memory foam (or gel memory foam): If your mattress is one sided then I would make sure that any memory foam is at least 5 lb per cubic foot. If the mattress is two sided then I would use a minimum density of 4 lbs per cubic foot.

I am looking for something similar to the Tempurpedic Cloud Supreme Breeze in firmness and would like something that will fair well with my weight. I am from Ottawa Canada so I am not sure what online companies with similar return policies as Novosbed are available to me or what are my best local options


For help in making comparisons, the Tempurpedic Tempur-Cloud Supreme Breeze 2.0 (these are USA specs) contains:
2" TEMPUR-ES comfort layer 4.1LB
2" TEMPUR-Climate Material 5.3LB
4.0" Airflow Base Layer 2.2LB
3.5" Airflow Base Layer 2.2LB

You can perform a forum search on Ottawa here (just click on the link) to see if any businesses have been discussed close to your home. Unfortunately, it’s beyond my capacity to maintain a listing of the offerings for the various stores in geographic regions in an ever-changing market, so I wouldn’t have an idea of what stores near your home might offer memory foam products.

Besides Novosbed , which you already mentioned, you may wish to investigate another site member here, Memory Foam Comfort . They are located in Quebec, but ship all over Canada and they offer a component-style memory foam mattress where you can attempt to “approximate” the Cloud Supreme Breeze. Also, site member Dormio is located in Ontario, but they specialize in organic latex mattresses, not memory foam. I think highly of three of these site members.

While it is a bit of an older list, here is some online mattress sources for Canadians in post #21 here .

If you investigate other products and have questions about them, I’ll do my best to answer those questions for you.

Phoenix
11 Oct 2017 23:48
  • fishv12
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Good morning,

I came close to purchasing a 3500$ Dormeo 8700 and actually put an order together before I read this forum and then walked in Sleep Country and cancelled my order. Suddenly I could get the mattress for 900$ less go figure. What a ripoff! Either way I canceled my order. The other mattress that felt very comfortable to me was the Tempurpedic Cloud Supreme Breeze so I am looking for similar options. I then looked at the Novosbed which according to my research is well built although being at 320lbs right now with chronic pain due to a whiplash injury I would like my mattress to last and be comfortable for many years to come and the polyfoam core is a weak link in that situation. There is a few more options but would like help in my selection. I am looking for something similar to the Tempurpedic Cloud Supreme Breeze in firmness and would like something that will fair well with my weight. I am from Ottawa Canada so I am not sure what online companies with similar return policies as Novosbed are available to me or what are my best local options. Any help is appreciated.
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