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11 Jan 2016 17:15
  • phoenix
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Hi CharlieVancouver,


I'm assuming that you've read the mattress shopping tutorial here which includes all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choice ... and perhaps most importantly know how and why to avoid the worst ones.

Two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you've read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best "match" for you in terms of "comfort" and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists (based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you).

I would also keep in mind that as long as the materials in a mattress you are considering are durable enough for your body type and meet the quality/durability guidelines here ... the choice between different types and combinations of materials and components or different types of mattresses (see this article ) are more of a preference and a budget choice than a "better/worse" choice.

While I can't speak to how any mattress will "feel" for someone else because this is too subjective and relative to different body types, sleeping positions, and individual preferences, sensitivities, and circumstances ... outside of PPP the most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you can't see or "feel" and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the specifics of its construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label (or how a mattress feels in a showroom or when it is relatively new) so I would always make sure that you find out information listed here so you can compare the materials and components to the quality/durability guidelines I lionked to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.

As Dormeo is a new product in the marketplace, the upper end price is making me do some more investigation.

As Dormeo is a new product in the marketplace, the upper end price is making me do some more investigation. There certainly seems to be plenty of other options and design configuration to consider. As we read reviews and comparison sites, it is clear that this industry has a tendency to obfuscate the shopping process to such an extent that diligent comparison will only lead us to greater confusion.


I would certainly encourage you to do some very careful "value" comparisons when you are looking at mattresses in relatively high price ranges like the Dormeo mattresses and I would need a compelling reason that clearly indicated there was "enough" of a difference in "real life" compared to many other mattresses that may be just as suitable in terms of "comfort" and PPP, just as durable, and that are in much lower budget ranges to justify the higher cost.

If you can provide the information listed here about type and quality/density of the materials and components in their mattresses and post it on the forum then I'd certainly be happy to make some comments about the quality and durability of the materials inside it and the mattress "as a whole" and let you know if I can see any lower quality/density materials or weak links in the mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of the mattress. If a retailer or manufacturer is either unable or unwilling to provide you with this information then it's not possible to make any meaningful comments about a mattress and it would be a very high risk purchase ... and I would pass it by.

even though we could equally receive beds from the folks like Bed in a Box, Leesa, Casper, Ultimate Dreams, the exchange rate sucks at the moment!


I can certainly understand your concerns about the current exchange rates.

You can see my comments about Bedinabox in post #2 here . I would be very cautious with any mattress that uses more than "about an inch or so" of 3 lb memory foam which is a lower quality and less durable material that don't meet the minimum quality/durability guidelines I linked and I would consider this to be a weak link in their mattresses which I would avoid.

You can also see some comments about Casper and Leesa and many of the other what I call "simplified choice mattresses" in post #2 here the simplified choice topic. Leesa also has 2" of 3 lb memory foam in their mattress and even though it's deeper in the mattress (which generally improves durability) ... I would be cautious here as well since it would also be a potential weak link in the mattress.

As long as you aren't in a higher than average weight range (more than the lower 200's or so) then the materials in the Casper meet the minimum guidelines that I would suggest although there may also be better quality/value options available to you as well.

Dreamfoam (Ultimate Dreams) makes a very wide range of mattresses but they use good quality materials and outside of a very few of their very lowest budget mattresses they also don't contain any lower quality materials or weak links in their mattresses and would be well worth considering.

Novosbed also uses good quality materials in their mattress and there are no lower quality materials or weak links in any of their mattresses either (again assuming you aren't in a higher than average weight range). NOTE ADDED JAN, 2016: They have now introduced their new simplified choice mattress which has replaced their previous models and have also become a member of this site.

Some of the better online options I'm aware of that ship across Canada (including Novosbed and Dreamfoam) are listed in post #21 here .

Your own careful testing and/or your actual personal experience is the most reliable way to know whether any mattress is a good "match" for you in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP but when you can't test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help "talk you through" the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and "feel" of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness, etc) and the options they have available that may be the best "match" for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the "averages" of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about "matching" their specific mattress designs and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.

Since we are in Vancouver, Canada


The better local options or possibilities I'm aware of in and around the Vancouver, BC area (subject to making sure that any mattress you are considering meets the quality/value guidelines I linked earlier in this reply) are listed in post #2 here .

Phoenix
11 Jan 2016 16:38
  • CharlieVancouver
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Hello Forum,
We just put a deposit on a Dormeo 6600 (King) through Sleep country, which puts us in the medium/firm range of their product. While I see the potential and design considerations of the Octaspring model, I wonder if the less dense foam at the center of the mattress will break down quicker?
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As Dormeo is a new product in the marketplace, the upper end price is making me do some more investigation. There certainly seems to be plenty of other options and design configuration to consider. As we read reviews and comparison sites, it is clear that this industry has a tendency to obfuscate the shopping process to such an extent that diligent comparison will only lead us to greater confusion. Since we are in Vancouver, Canada we looked toward a Canadian manufacturer. (even though we could equally receive beds from the folks like Bed in a Box, Leesa, Casper, Ultimate Dreams, the exchange rate sucks at the moment!) So this choice points us toward Novosbed, who seem to have a strong product, with good materials and a strong guarantee. Lower price too!

Still it feels like we are comparing Apples and Cactus.. Can anyone provide insight into recent Dormeo Octaspring purchase and if/how they compared other brands?
30 Dec 2015 20:14
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Hi I will try out obasan in victoria at goodplanet by sleeptek..its a big investment and the idea is its customized so it can be softer on the shoulder and firmer on the back and its moving compartments that they seal in a tight case. could this cause any problem? they said you dont feel any gap or drastic difference in texture.. any thoughts? basically as a back and side sleeper who needs pressure relief it sounds nice..although i wonder if the back part is firm wont that be too firm on the hip on the side and still produce the smae dilemma? gona go there and try sopon. i basically love the feel of dormeo but want to avoid the chemicals (heard it offgasses for years even under a cover) and anything but a too soft latex bed is too hard on my hips and shoulder.. also have you heard of Plasma beds at Sleep mart? also from memory foam and they said they have the equivalent of certipure (hope its credible) . they said the dormeo being of "springs" from memory foam can collapse inwards over time. btw Obasan said they wash the protein to reduce developing allergy risk as ive heard latex is a big one..dono if organic beds under a cover count though.
23 Dec 2015 13:17
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Hi debating,

how can i find out about reliable testing in europe (i dont know their equivalent of certipure and dormeo can do same as essentia and say its had its own good testing


They would need to tell you about any testing that has been done on their mattresses.

Essentia has some information about their VOC emissions here .

Phoenix
23 Dec 2015 12:47
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thank you but how can i find out about reliable testing in europe (i dont know their equivalent of certipure and dormeo can do same as essentia and say its had its own good testing
23 Dec 2015 12:34
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Hi debating,

I wondered how to find out about dormeos lack of worst chemicals since its European foam (supposedly this should indicate its got a higher standard but the guy doesnt know of any tests to prove..should i trust it?


Once again ... the only way to know the level of formaldehyde or any specific VOC's in any material or mattress is based on seeing the lab testing results. All you can know for certain is whether it is under the testing limits for any certification that it has.

the dormeo is heaven on my shoulder and supposedly they had one bad batch of foam but will be durable now..i hope the warranty with sleep country canada will be ok if the memory foam coil and lumbar support sags..


The most important part of the "value" of a mattress purchase is how well it matches your unique needs and preferences in terms of "comfort" and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences). No matter what the quality or price of a mattress or how long it will last ... if it's not a good match for you and you don't sleep well on the mattress it would have little value to you.

Outside of PPP ... the most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you can't "feel" and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the type and quality of all the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label so I would always make sure that you are able to find out the information listed here so you can compare the materials and components in a mattress to the quality/durability guidelines here so you can confirm that there are no lower quality materials or obvious weak links in a mattress that would compromise the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.

A warranty is important to guard against manufacturing defects in the materials or components inside a mattress that can happen on rare occasions but I would also keep in mind that mattress warranties only cover manufacturing defects and they don't cover the gradual (or more rapid in the case of lower quality comfort layers) loss of comfort and support that comes from foam softening that is the main reason that most people will need to replace their mattress. In other words warranties have little to do with the durability or useful life of a mattress or how long it may be until you need to buy a new mattress. If there is an actual defect in the materials it will usually show up early in the life of the mattress but knowing the quality and durability of the materials in your mattress is always a much more reliable way to assess the durability and useful life of a mattress than the length of a warranty. There is more about mattress warranties in post #174 here .

There is also more about the Dormeo Octaspring mattresses in this topic and in this topic and a forum search on Dormeo and on Octaspring will bring up more comments and feedback about them as well.

Phoenix
23 Dec 2015 11:44
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www.trydormeo.com/ they also have a model on the american site to try risk free but i dont know if i can trust it wont be problematic
23 Dec 2015 11:39
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Hi I wondered how to find out about dormeos lack of worst chemicals since its European foam (supposedly this should indicate its got a higher standard but the guy doesnt know of any tests to prove..should i trust it? he said fermaldehyde etc is only from China...the dormeo is heaven on my shoulder and supposedly they had one bad batch of foam but will be durable now..i hope the warranty with sleep country canada will be ok if the memory foam coil and lumbar support sags..
28 Nov 2015 19:09
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Hi Phoenix, sorry I just wondered if in your experience youve come across beds good for both back and side sleeping (is there such a thing because ive tried everything at sleep country, foam shop and latex). my shoulders are broad, skiny and im very mobile in my joints so it gets crumpled and pressured but when i like a softer bed it sinks under my back. I dont know how much give to accept since mine is a very firm continuous coil cheap one which i can sooner sit on rather than lie sideways. i liked what i read about latex over spring or chemicals but ive heard it pushes back and feels firmer int he morn so i dont know if someone wants pressure relief is a memory foam top on pocket coil a better idea? first i liked the dormeo on the shoulder but when i saw some bad reviews of its durability and tearing (memory foam coils dont hold) i gave that idea up. im a cold person(cold feet in bed) so i also hesitate to get all m,emory foam beds and dont know if their chemicals are really as bad as some make it out to be....thank you!
19 Jul 2015 15:29
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Hi Lookingforacloud,

I was more looking for some help or tips troubleshooting why my first latex mattress didn't work and what direction I can go in to prevent that from happening again. Perhaps even as you said, latex may not be the best option for me. But then, how do you get a support layer that provides support but also has give and doesn't feel like a slab of cement?


There is more detailed information about the most common symptoms that people may experience when they sleep on a mattress and the most likely (although not the only) reasons for them in post #2 here .

There is also more about primary or "deep" support and secondary or "surface" support and their relationship to firmness and pressure relief and the "roles" of different layers in a mattress in post #2 here and in post #4 here that may also be helpful in clarifying the difference between "support" and "pressure relief" and "feel".

These posts are the "tools" that can help with the analysis, detective work, or trial and error that may be necessary to help you learn your body's language and "translate" what your body is trying to tell you when you sleep on a mattress so you can make the types of changes or additions to your mattress that have the best chance of reducing or eliminating any "symptoms" you are experiencing.

I would need need more detailed information about how your experience and symptoms changed with each incremental layering combination you tried with your component mattress to be able to guess at the type of changes that may be a better "match" for you in terms of PPP but it's possible that the top layer was too firm for you (although that's less likely if you were sleeping on a soft Talalay layer) or that the cover was affecting the contouring of the latex underneath it more than you would prefer (which you could have tested by unzipping and removing the top of the cover for a few nights and sleeping directly on the latex with just your protector and sheets on top of it) or that you just aren't comfortable with the "feel" and resilience of latex.

It's possible that a different latex mattress design (other than a 3 x 3 combination) or softer latex in the top layer or a different more stretchy cover (see post #12 here about quilted covers vs more stretchy non quilted covers) would work better for you and it's possible that a softer latex topper would also have helped but there are so many variables involved that there is no way for me to know the type of changes that may have helped you and the only way to know for certain would be based on your own careful testing or personal experience.

It's unlikely that if the Savvy Rest you tried didn't work out for you that another similar mattress with a similar design and cover would work well for you either so if you did try again with a component latex mattress I would make sure you are comfortable with the return policy just in case.

my zip code is 93510 if there happen to be any reputable suppliers nearby


The better options or possibilities I'm aware of that are reasonably close to you (subject to the quality/value guidelines here ) would be in the list for the greater Los Angeles region here or in the list for the Hesperia/Rancho Cucamonga/San Bernardino areas here . These would give you a chance to test some different types of latex or latex hybrid mattresses to see if you feel the same way about them as you did with your Savvy Rest.

I also took a look in the Acton/Palmdale area (from Santa Clarita to Lancaster) and based on their websites the better options or possibilities I'm aware of that are closer to you (subject to the same quality/value guidelines) and the manufacturers they carry that I would focus on include ...

www.lunamattressstore.com/ Palmdale, CA. Stress-O-Pedic, Spinal Care, Therapedic.

www.sitnsleep.com/ Palmdale, CA. Sherwood, Dormeo.

www.selecthf.com/ Palmdale, CA. Diamond Mattress

avfurniturenmattress.webs.com/ Palmdale, Lancaster, Rosamond CA. Diamond Mattress

avmattresswarehouse.com/ Lancaster, CA. Maxim

avfurniturenmattress.webs.com/ Santa Clarita, CA. Natura, Coco-Mat, Carpe Diem, Hastens. These are in more premium budget ranges.

www.consumersfurniture.com/ Santa Clarita, CA. Diamond Mattress, Stress-O-Pedic.

www.aroyalsuite.com/ Santa Clarita, CA. Diamond Mattress

I don't know the specifics of the mattresses they carry on their floors so I would call them to see if any of them carry any mattresses that fit your criteria that you would be interested in testing and to make sure that they will provide you with the information you need to make an informed choice (see this article ).

Phoenix
01 Jul 2015 17:39
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Hi KayaO,


The better options or possibilities I'm aware of in and around the Tulsa, OK area (subject to the quality/value guidelines I linked in my last reply) are listed in post #2 here . There is also a forum list for the area around Coffeyville in post #11 here that also has some options that are reasonably close to you.

I'm looking forward to finding out what you end up deciding ... and of course any comments or questions you may have along the way.

Phoenix
01 Jun 2015 13:51
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We've been talking and talking about getting a new mattress, but just couldn't commit. We were scared we'd hate it and be stuck. Neither one of us wanted to go thru the hassle of returning, want it right the 1st time. We are sleeping on an old beautyrest that I must admit served us well for years. Unfortunately Simmons doesn't make them like they used to. Awhile back ordered the Dormeo thru Brookstone, but was delivered damaged twice and never even made it into the house (wasn't going for a 3rd delivery).

Spoke with Kelly at Tuft and Needle many times yesterday and she was wonderful. Oh and ordered the 8 inch wood foundation from Sleep EZ to go with it.
02 May 2015 11:19
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Hi mgaines,

I tried several other brands, but by far these two felt the best on my back and side. Even my kids loved them.


As you mentioned the Dormer is in a higher budget range than many other mattresses that use similar quality materials (although the Memorycoils they use are also somewhat unique) and it's also a very large jump in price from the Dreamy to the Heavenly when the only material difference is that the 1.5" memory foam layer is higher quality/density and it has an additional 2" of latex in the design.

Hopefully the other mattresses you were comparing to the Dormeo were at some of the other stores on the Los Angeles list and not just some of the other brands that are carried at the same store and I would make some careful value comparisons so that you are confident that the differences between the Dormeo mattresses and some of the other mattresses that are available to you in terms of suitability, durability, and "value" would be "enough" in your actual experience to justify the higher cost.

Phoenix
01 May 2015 19:16
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I actually spent time at their store trying both the dreamy and heavenly. I liked the heavenly best, but it is very pricey for the size bed we have (Cal King). Based on your post, it sounds like it's a good quality mattress. I tried several other brands, but by far these two felt the best on my back and side. Even my kids loved them. Thank you for the information. I will read the other information you mentioned.
01 May 2015 05:56
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