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08 Aug 2015 09:11
  • psyclonejack
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Wife and I recently visited a local dealer in Dallas and tested a number of mattresses. We really liked one of the Prana models.

A few days after I emailed with the salesman asking for the specs on the mattress as I could not recall the exact model we liked. Having read here that the new 5th generation Vinyasa had improved some of its materials, I wanted to confirm that was the model we liked.

The salesman wrote back and specifically outlined the top poly foam layer as having 2.5lb density. I knew from reading the forum that this indicated a 5th generation version.

After spending considerable time on the forums here and shopping around for mattresses. My wife and I decided on the Pranasleep Super Vinyasa Luxury king, which was what the salesman described and provided a quote on.

Upon delivery I noted that I was sent a 4th generation, which is clearly indicated on the mattress label.

I returned the the store to see what mattress I had actually tested and now realize it was ALSO a 4th generation.
So while I was delivered the mattress I tested, it appears the salesman gave me incorrect specifications (indicating the 5th generation model).

The dealer seems to have a generous return policy. Should I return the mattress and insist on a 5th Generation?

I feel mislead, even though the dealer delivered the version I tested and "ordered".
30 Jul 2015 07:27
  • sailormass
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Thank you so much! This is exactly the advise I was seeking!
29 Jul 2015 22:08
  • phoenix
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Hi sailormass,

This is the first time I have posted a question, but I've relied on the site in helping me choose a mattress.


Welcome ... and I'm glad the site could help you.

First Question: Fair to assume that if it felt a bit too firm at the store, it would probably feel that way at home, as the mattress on the floor would be somewhat "broken in," after a fashion?


I would certainly ask them to make sure but it's likely that the mattress on their floor would be broken in yes so it would most likely feel similar to a new mattress after it had gone through the initial break in and adjustment period.

So, questions: Would you describe the Samadhi super cush as truly a type of firm mattress?


There are no "standard" definitions or consensus of opinions for firmness ratings and different manufacturers can rate their mattresses very differently than others so a mattress that one manufacturer rates as being a specific firmness could be rated very differently by another manufacturer. Different people can also have very different perceptions of firmness and softness compared to others as well and a mattress that feels firm for one person can feel like "medium" for someone else or even "soft" for someone else (or vice versa) depending on their body type, sleeping style, physiology, their frame of reference based on what they are used to, and their individual sensitivity and perceptions. There are also different types of firmness and softness that different people may be sensitive to that can affect how they "rate" a mattress as well (see post #15 here ) so different people can also have very different opinions on how two mattresses compare in terms of firmness as well and some people may rate one mattress as being firmer than another and someone else may rate them the other way around. This is all relative and very subjective and is as much an art as a science.

I have never slept on their mattresses so I don't know how firm it would feel to me either in terms of "feel", or comfort, or support, but even if I had you may "rate" it as a completely different firmness than I would. Your own experience is the only reliable way to know how firm it feels to you relative to other mattresses you have tested.

Is it true that it may take up to a month to feel comfortable in it?


Yes ... there is an initial break in and adjustment period with any new mattress that will depend on the person and on the mattress and can last anywhere from a few days to 90 days but something in the range of about 30 days would be fairly typical (see post #3 here ).

Finally, any general comments or thoughts about this Samadhi super cush versus other Pranasleep firm mattresses (especially the Super Vinyasa Firm).


I can't speak to how a mattress will feel for someone else or how well it will match their needs and preferences in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) because I can't feel what you feel on a mattress but you can read more about Pranasleep in general and the previous versions (up to version 4) of Pranasleep mattresses in post #3 here and in post #2 here and in post #3 here and in posts #1 and #2 here and a forum search on Prana (you can just click this) will also bring up more information and feedback about them as well.

The good news (as you know) is that they changed the design in version 5 and the top layers of polyfoam are now higher quality/density and are no longer what I would consider to be a weak link in the mattress in terms of durability. Having said that they are still in a significantly higher budget range than other similar mattresses and the top layers are still polyfoam so you would still be feeling and sleeping on polyfoam as much as latex but this could also be a "feel" that you prefer compared to sleeping more directly on latex . There is more about the new version 5 in post #19 here and I would certainly make some very careful "value" comparisons with other latex mattresses that use similar materials and are in a lower budget range before considering one of their mattresses to be the "best value" choice available to you.

There is also more about the most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase in post #13 here which which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists (based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you).

When you are considering a mattress in a higher budget range such as the Prana I would normally suggest making some careful "value" comparisons with other latex mattresses that use the same or similar materials and are in lower budget ranges that are as "objective as possible. Because how well you sleep on a mattress is the most important part of "value" ... there are certainly some cases where a more costly mattress in this budget range may be "worth it" for a particular person that isn't price sensitive and that has specific criteria, needs, or preferences that aren't available or that they aren't able to find in lower budget ranges and of course in cases like this it could still be a good "value" choice for some people but in general I would need a compelling reason that clearly indicated there was "enough" of a difference in "real life" between the Prana and other mattresses that may also be suitable in terms of comfort and PPP and would also be just as durable to satisfy yourself that the higher cost was justifiable and that you weren't being "influenced" by marketing stories or the belief that higher prices mean a "better" mattress.

Ah, and what does Pranasleep mean by "performance latex"?


It's just a name they made up to describe the latex they are using in their mattresses. It could be blended Talalay or 100% natural Talalay or Active Fusion latex (blended Talalay latex with a phase change material added to the formulation) but you would need to ask them which type and blend of latex they are using. These types of "naming conventions" are generally used to make it more difficult to make meaningful comparisons with other mattresses that use the same materials and to give the impression that the latex they are using is somehow "different" from other mattresses that also use the same type and blend of Talalay latex. I believe that they use 100% natural Talalay but you would need to ask them to find out for certain.

Phoenix
29 Jul 2015 19:29
  • sailormass
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Hi--Thanks to everyone for your invaluable help in my mattress search. This is the first time I have posted a question, but I've relied on the site in helping me choose a mattress.

I've had a latex mattress for about eleven years (Therepedic with pillowtop). I have some lower back issues and that latex mattress was the most comfortable bed I'd owned in my adult life! As I purchased it two moves and one city ago, I can't find any more details about it.

In searching through the stores in the Boston area that you've recommended, the most comfortable latex mattress I've found is in the Pranasleep line at Jordan's. More than I wanted to spend and not my favorite store, but . . .

My Physical Therapist recommended that I not get a super-firm mattress, but rather a firm mattress that has some cushioning. All of the Pranasleep models now on Jordan's floor--at least the store I went to--are 5th generation (I verified this independently).

I was originally leaning toward the Super Vinyasa Luxury Firm. Specs:
Quilt: 2.5 lb poly foam in following layers:
3/4 inch soft
1 inch soft
1 inch soft

Comfort Layers: 1 inch Medium Pranasleep performance latex
2 inches Firm Pranasleep performance latex
Support System: 6" Pranasleep performance core (Talalay method) with 1.45 inches firm polyfoam underneath

Trying that out at the store for fifteen minute periods on two separate nights, it felt a bit too firm for me and it seemed as though it would be uncomfortable for side sleeping (I sometimes sleep on my back and sometimes on my side).

First Question: Fair to assume that if it felt a bit too firm at the store, it would probably feel that way at home, as the mattress on the floor would be somewhat "broken in," after a fashion?

I settled on the 5th generation Samadhi Super Cush or Super Cushion (same mattress). The support system (core and below core) is identical. Here are the different specs:

Quilt: 2.5 lb polyfoam in following layers:
3/4 inch soft
3/4 inch soft
1 inch soft
1/2 inch FIRM

Comfort Layers: 2 inches Soft Pranasleep Performance Latex
2 inches Medium Pranasleep Performance Latex

I've talked to a few different Pranasleep vendor salespeople and they all say the comfort description is the same for both the Super Vinyasa Firm and the Samadhi Super Cush: "Mattressses in this category are firm with just a little bit of soft cushioning. They are a good choice for those who like firm support with a slight degree of give." (Indeed, both descriptions are identical on the Jordan's website in describing the mattresses).

So, in short, the difference is that the Samadhi has some firm poly foam in the quilting, one extra inch of latex in the comfort layer, but no firm latex in the comfort layer.

I've slept on the bed for four nights now. The first three nights I woke up rather achy, but this morning not achy at all.

So, questions: Would you describe the Samadhi super cush as truly a type of firm mattress?
Is it true that it may take up to a month to feel comfortable in it?
(I can change it for a firmer mattress with no penalty after I've slept on it for a month)..
I know these Pranasleep are really too expensive, but I couldn't find others that were as comfortable for me.
Finally, any general comments or thoughts about this Samadhi super cush versus other Pranasleep firm mattresses (especially the Super Vinyasa Firm).
Ah, and what does Pranasleep mean by "performance latex"?

Than you so much!
01 Jun 2015 23:40
  • phoenix
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Hi Lackofzzz,

I meant to type Urban Mattress. They sell Sherwood, Vi Springs, Prana Sleep, Tempurpedic.


That makes more sense.

I don't know which mattress you purchased but hopefully you were able to find out all the specifics of the mattress you purchased (see this article ) and confirmed that there were no lower quality materials or weak links in the mattress (some of their mattresses use some lower quality materials and have weak links in their design and some don't).

Assuming that your mattress was a good match for you in terms of PPP and there are no lower quality materials or weak links in the mattress you chose then you would have made a good choice ... and congratulations on your new mattress :)

Phoenix
01 Jun 2015 21:47
  • Lackofzzz
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Oops... Typo.

I meant to type Urban Mattress. They sell Sherwood, Vi Springs, Prana Sleep, Tempurpedic.

229 Maple Ave E
Vienna, VA 22180
703-261-4585

They have low prices everyday, so you don't have to haggle as well. I appreciate this.
28 May 2015 18:28
  • phoenix
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Hi rockscreation16,

I actually ended up getting the mattress new. It was still in the plastic. Looked like it had a tear in the side of the attic where it had been stained in transit.


It's unlikely that the mattress is new and used mattresses are also sold in plastic (it's easy to bag a used mattress in plastic). If a mattress is missing the law tag (which is actually a legal requirement) then it's almost certainly either used or a warranty return being sold by a dealer that is working in the shady side of the industry.

There appears to be 9.5" of latex from what I can tell. All layers feel like latex. There's a 6" base layer, then 1.5.... And two layers of 1". Sequentially less dense as it moves up.


If you have the Vinyasa then it would include 7" of latex and the rest is polyfoam. You can see the layering of the Vinyasa Plush here (just click overview) but it now has higher quality/density polyfoam than the previous versions but $100 for 7" of latex is a good price even if the materials are used.

Phoenix
28 May 2015 15:41
  • phoenix
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Hi rockscreation,

I think there might have been a misunderstanding in what I mentioned before.

When I was referring to the base, I meant frame. I bought 2 twin XL adjustable bases-frames for a great price of $500. They were new in the box factory seconds, but I've yet to find any imperfections. www.samsclub.com/sams/motionessentials-a...tion/prod10221236.ip
These bases are normally around $700 a piece.


I did understand what you meant. Any mattress that uses materials and components that are flexible enough to conform to the movements of your adjustable bed (which would include most latex, polyfoam, or memory foam mattresses and many pocket coil mattresses as well) would generally work well on an adjustable bed. Elevating the head of the adjustable bed can also be very helpful with acid reflux issues as well. It sounds like the adjustable bed you purchased was a great price and a good value choice. In very general terms ... I would use about 12" as a maximum mattress thickness for a mattress that is being used on an adjustable bed because it may not conform as well if it's thicker than this.

So, my original plan was to modify my existing mattress from dreamfoam bedding to alleviate some of the sag. From what I can tell the only wear showing on the dreamfoam mattress is the poly foam pillowtop-ish layer. The talalay latex comfort layer is in good shape I'm sure. There's definitely an impression on the top, and it's noticeable when lying down.


A minimal amount of visible impressions would be normal but if the impressions are more "virtual" and are mostly noticeable when you sleep on the mattress and aren't visible when you aren't on the mattress (or are only minimal) then it usually means that the comfort choice you made was on the edge of being too soft for you and that even a relatively small amount of initial foam softening under the heavier parts of your body was enough to put you outside the comfort/support range that is suitable for you (see post #2 here ).

If the visible impressions are deeper than 1.5" (you can measure them with a string or a straight edge across the impression) then it's also possible that the materials in your mattress were defective and you would have a warranty issue as well.

Anyway, when I picked up the bases I asked if they had any latex mattress seconds. To my surprise they did. There was one plush king latex mattress that was missing a tag. I figured it would at least give me something else to work with. Come to find out, it's a PranaSleep mattress. It's this model www.pranasleep.com/sub-collection.asp?collectionID=45&sizeID=4
Apparently this mattress costs $6150 when purchased directly from PranaSleep's website. I only paid this mattress store $100 for it.

I have now performed surgery on it. I found it to be too plush. I removed the pillow top and cut it into 2x-Twin XL mattresses. With the pillow top removed, the feel is much better. The support seems much better as well. After tearing it down to the foam layers, it appears that it's solid latex in several layers of varying density.

This is what they say about the core layer: Our exclusive and proprietary-formula latex foam rubber – the highest-grade mattress foam available – has more than triple the natural rubber as ordinary Talalay latex, and offers the perfect balance of terra-firma support℠ and pressure-relieving comfort.

This is what they say about the comfort layer: Our proprietary formula of layered densities of the world’s finest latex is designed to offer maximum pressure relief and enhance conformance for deeper, more restorative sleep.

at any rate, this mattress is obviously worth way more than I paid considering what just 10" of good latex would cost me.

I wrapped the foam with a fitted sheet and slept on it last night. My wife said that it was by far the most comfortable mattress she's experienced, and she said that I didn't snore at all last night. That's pretty amazing. Maybe I stumbled onto something good. Do you have any information on this company and their materials? They seem to think highly of it at those prices. Can't pay too much for zen though right.....?


You can read more about the previous versions (up to version 4) of Pranasleep mattresses in post #3 here and in post #2 here and in post #3 here and in posts #1 and #2 here and a forum search on Prana (you can just click this) will also bring up more information and feedback about them as well.

The old models of Pranasleep used thicker layers of polyfoam in the quilting layers than I would be comfortable with that was a weak link in their mattresses but if you are comfortable with buying a used mattress then just the latex alone in the mattress (which I believe is 7" in the Vinyasa) would probably be well worth the price you paid.

As far as I know Pranasleep uses 100% natural Talalay from Latex International in their mattresses but I don't know the specific firmness of the individual layers so you would need some trial and error to find the combination of layers that works best for you out of the layers that are available to you.

That's great news that you slept so well on your layering combination. While I wouldn't personally consider their mattresses at the prices they normally charge ... it's certainly a great source of latex layers for a DIY project at the prices you paid.

Best of all though you seem to have slept well on the layers you are sleeping on which is great news :)

What I need now is a good way to wrap the mattresses to protect the foam.

Do you have a recommendation on a zippered mattress cover in twin XL to protect the foam from tearing, but that will maintain the ventilation from the perforated latex foam?


The component post here includes the better sources for mattress covers I'm aware of and if you are looking for a thinner and more stretchy knit cover instead of a quilted cover then the list in post #4 here may be helpful as well.

Phoenix
28 May 2015 14:33
  • rockscreation16
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Alright. So, here I am.

I think there might have been a misunderstanding in what I mentioned before.

When I was referring to the base, I meant frame. I bought 2 twin XL adjustable bases-frames for a great price of $500. They were new in the box factory seconds, but I've yet to find any imperfections. www.samsclub.com/sams/motionessentials-adj-twin-xl-foundation/prod10221236.ip
These bases are normally around $700 a piece.

So, my original plan was to modify my existing mattress from dreamfoam bedding to alleviate some of the sag. From what I can tell the only wear showing on the dreamfoam mattress is the poly foam pillowtop-ish layer. The talalay latex comfort layer is in good shape I'm sure. There's definitely an impression on the top, and it's noticeable when lying down.

Anyway, when I picked up the bases I asked if they had any latex mattress seconds. To my surprise they did. There was one plush king latex mattress that was missing a tag. I figured it would at least give me something else to work with. Come to find out, it's a PranaSleep mattress. It's this model www.pranasleep.com/sub-collection.asp?collectionID=45&sizeID=4
Apparently this mattress costs $6150 when purchased directly from PranaSleep's website. I only paid this mattress store $100 for it.

I have now performed surgery on it. I found it to be too plush. I removed the pillow top and cut it into 2x-Twin XL mattresses. With the pillow top removed, the feel is much better. The support seems much better as well. After tearing it down to the foam layers, it appears that it's solid latex in several layers of varying density.

This is what they say about the core layer: Our exclusive and proprietary-formula latex foam rubber – the highest-grade mattress foam available – has more than triple the natural rubber as ordinary Talalay latex, and offers the perfect balance of terra-firma support℠ and pressure-relieving comfort.

This is what they say about the comfort layer: Our proprietary formula of layered densities of the world’s finest latex is designed to offer maximum pressure relief and enhance conformance for deeper, more restorative sleep.

at any rate, this mattress is obviously worth way more than I paid considering what just 10" of good latex would cost me.

I wrapped the foam with a fitted sheet and slept on it last night. My wife said that it was by far the most comfortable mattress she's experienced, and she said that I didn't snore at all last night. That's pretty amazing. Maybe I stumbled onto something good. Do you have any information on this company and their materials? They seem to think highly of it at those prices. Can't pay too much for zen though right.....?

What I need now is a good way to wrap the mattresses to protect the foam.

Do you have a recommendation on a zippered mattress cover in twin XL to protect the foam from tearing, but that will maintain the ventilation from the perforated latex foam?
28 May 2015 11:13
  • phoenix
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Hi Finn,

I feel like the mattress is not supporting and softening where I sleep. I sink into it if sitting up.


A mattress that is suitable for you is designed to keep your spine and joints in good alignment when you are lying down and your weight is more evenly distributed so it would be normal to sink more deeply into a mattress when you are sitting because your weight is more concentrated into a smaller area. Are you experiencing any physical pain or discomfort when you sleep on the mattress?

I called them @ 30 days and told to wait till 60 days...now it's 120 days,..


All new mattresses will have a break in and adjustment period where the materials will soften a little and your body will get used to a new sleeping surface that is probably different from what it's used to (see post #3 here ). Jordan's Furniture has a 60 day exchange policy but they do require that you sleep on a mattress for at least 30 days first so that the mattress has a chance to break in and you have the chance to adjust to a new mattress. If the mattress still wasn't a good match for you when you were getting closer to 60 days though it would have been a good idea to exchange it for a mattress that was a better "match" for you. Is there a reason you didn't ask for an exchange before the 60 days were up?

What is your take on. Prana ?


You can read more about the previous versions (up to version 4) of Pranasleep mattresses in post #3 here and in post #2 here and in post #3 here and in posts #1 and #2 here and a forum search on Prana (you can just click this) will also bring up more information and feedback about them as well.

The good news is they changed the design in version 5 and the top layers of polyfoam are now higher quality/density and are no longer what I would consider to be a weak link in the mattress in terms of durability but they are still in a significantly higher budget range than other similar mattresses and the top layers are still polyfoam so you would still be feeling and sleeping on polyfoam as much as latex. There is more about the new version 5 in post #19 here and I would certainly make some very careful "value" comparisons with other latex mattresses that are in a lower budget range before considering one of their mattresses to be the "best value" choice available.

Phoenix
28 May 2015 06:27
  • Finn
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I have a Prana from Jordan's. I was first "evaluated" by their sleep tech.. lab coat and all. Trusting that 30 second assessment I was sold a Prana.. I do have fibromyalgia and I am 65. I feel like the mattress is not supporting and softening where I sleep. I sink into it if sitting up. This business is crazy and needs some regulations.. I called them @ 30 days and told to wait till 60 days...now it's 120 days,.. What is your take on. Prana ?
25 May 2015 19:04
  • phoenix
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Hi cdisracerx,

+++ Roll together" for those who sleep close together in the center of a mattress...
I'm 200 and the wife is 100 and we literally sleep spooned or she is under my shoulder..LOL
.....have I reached the TMI yet..? ...This has been the case for the past 26 years too. and 4 mattresses later!


Roll together (and any "roll off" on the edge of a mattress) is a function of the softness/firmness of the support layers along with the thickness and softness of the comfort layers relative to the weight and weight differential of a couple on a mattress. It's something you can "feel" so it's part of PPP that you can test for. I would always make sure that if a mattress is for a couple that you test the mattress together both for roll together and for motion isolation.

I'm confused a bit on the Prana as I have been told the v5 is not on floors yet..so worth the wait?


The version 5 is already available (you can see here that Jordans Furniture carries them for example) but they may not be available at Urban Mattress yet. While it would likely "feeL" the same as version 4 ... I certainly wouldn't purchase the version 4 because of the lower quality/density polyfoam it uses in the top layers.

Whether waiting is "worth it" or not is something that only you can decide but I would be very cautious about buying a mattress in this budget range when there are other mattresses that use the same or similar materials that are available either locally or online that are in much lower budget ranges that may be just as suitable, just as durable, and may be better "value" based on all the criteria that are most important to you. As I mentioned in an earlier reply I would need a "compelling reason" to consider it.

It was my fav today among them I tried..but you are absolute in you cannot feel durability and the wear characteristics or peer into the future..These are projected with the specifications and materials used.
The latter being the part where knowledge is POWERFUL..I'm trying to get there!


Yes ... the only way to compare the durability and useful life of a mattress relative to other mattresses is by knowing the type and quality/density of all the materials inside them because both lower quality and higher quality materials come in a wide range of firmness levels that can feel very similar or the same ... at least until the lower quality materials begin to soften or break down.

Phoenix
25 May 2015 18:40
  • cdisracerx
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Mr. PhoenixI,
We sincerely appreciate the response !
I've noticed this in a thread and wondered if there is a prediction for this as this is how we have killed prior mattresses
+++ Roll together" for those who sleep close together in the center of a mattress...
I'm 200 and the wife is 100 and we literally sleep spooned or she is under my shoulder..LOL
.....have I reached the TMI yet..? ...This has been the case for the past 26 years too. and 4 mattresses later!
I'm confused a bit on the Prana as I have been told the v5 is not on floors yet..so worth the wait?
It was my fav today among them I tried..but you are absolute in you cannot feel durability and the wear characteristics or peer into the future..These are projected with the specifications and materials used.
The latter being the part where knowledge is POWERFUL..I'm trying to get there!
Sincerely,
CD
25 May 2015 12:27
  • phoenix
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Hi cdisracerx,

We are also seeking the best mattress (as opposed to anything else LOL!)
This MU site is the "bomb" of all sites I would only wish whatever the product or service could have something as informative / researchable as this!!
Hats off! to you Mr. Phenix as I have read for hours on many of your posts and I never knew so much went into a mattress purchase but so glad I have found the information to better help get the 3 -P's right and Values. (I ran my existing mattress thru the criteria and it made me even more sore trying to sleep on it!!..information is powerful)


Thanks for the kind words ... I appreciate it :)

Ok-on to my point- After studying this site we went for our 1st sampling and found the gentleman to be knowledgable at our local UM store here in Colorado.
Being older, major back problems & active, I always thought firm was what I needed and went for a memory foam many years ago and while traveling recently I stayed in a Boutique Hotel and got a fantastic nights sleep and it made me start thinking...
So armed with the information we looked up what we had slept on in the Hotel and used as a starting point when we got to the store and he proceeded to show us lines that had a similar feel or better and began to work our way up thru the construction differences and all were in the "plush mix btw.
(After reading I would agree we are seeking something that does the supportive measure followed by the big parts kept in-alignment.)


There is also more about primary or "deep" support and secondary or "surface" support and their relationship to firmness and pressure relief and the "roles" of different layers in a mattress in post #2 here and in post #4 here that may also be helpful in clarifying the difference between "support" and "pressure relief" and "feel" that but this may also be more than you really need to know because the most reliable way to know whether a mattress has good primary support, secondary support, and pressure relief in all your sleeping positions is based on careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines that are linked in step 4 of the tutorial).

Many consumers believe that "firmer is better" or somehow more "supportive" but if this was the case then everyone would be sleeping on the floor and of course a flat floor doesn't contour to the shape of your body very well and provides very poor support for the recessed parts of your body profile which would only have air underneath them.

We so far have narrowed our search (Full, we could fit on a Twin which is another problem for matresses when sleeping like spoons) to a Dunlopillo Ambiance and a Prana Super Vinyasa,
I do not plan to turn this into a mattress hunt for months, more like this week so I was curious as to others /Brands I should consider as I'm totally new in this..and/or thoughts on our choices so far..
I can copy the specifications into this if you prefer for future references.
Sincerely,


You can read a little more about the Dunlopillo Ambiance in this topic and I would be cautious with any mattress that has more than "about an inch or so" of lower quality and less durable materials or "unknown quality/density" materials in the upper layers of the mattress. A forum search on " Ambiance " will also bring up more comments and feedback about it as well.

You can see some comments about the Prana mattresses in general and the Super Vinyasa in particular in post #4 here and the posts it links to. While there are no lower quality or less durable materials in the design since they introduced version 5 of the Prana mattresses ... they still have about 3" of polyfoam in the top layers so you are sleeping more on polyfoam than on latex.

When you are considering a mattress in a higher budget range such as the Prana I would make some careful "value" comparisons with other latex mattresses that are in lower budget ranges. In some cases a mattress in this budget range may be "worth it" for a particular person that isn't price sensitive and that has specific criteria that aren't available in lower budget ranges but this would be unusual and in general I would need a very compelling reason that clearly indicated there was "enough" of a difference in "real life" compared to many other mattresses that may be just as suitable in terms of PPP, just as durable, and that are in lower budget ranges to justify the higher cost based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.

Phoenix
25 May 2015 10:40
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We are also seeking the best mattress (as opposed to anything else LOL!)
This MU site is the "bomb" of all sites I would only wish whatever the product or service could have something as informative / researchable as this!!
Hats off! to you Mr. Phenix as I have read for hours on many of your posts and I never knew so much went into a mattress purchase but so glad I have found the information to better help get the 3 -P's right and Values. (I ran my existing mattress thru the criteria and it made me even more sore trying to sleep on it!!..information is powerful)
Ok-on to my point- After studying this site we went for our 1st sampling and found the gentleman to be knowledgable at our local UM store here in Colorado.
Being older, major back problems & active, I always thought firm was what I needed and went for a memory foam many years ago and while traveling recently I stayed in a Boutique Hotel and got a fantastic nights sleep and it made me start thinking...
So armed with the information we looked up what we had slept on in the Hotel and used as a starting point when we got to the store and he proceeded to show us lines that had a similar feel or better and began to work our way up thru the construction differences and all were in the "plush mix btw.
(After reading I would agree we are seeking something that does the supportive measure followed by the big parts kept in-alignment.)
We so far have narrowed our search (Full, we could fit on a Twin which is another problem for matresses when sleeping like spoons) to a Dunlopillo Ambiance and a Prana Super Vinyasa,
I do not plan to turn this into a mattress hunt for months, more like this week so I was curious as to others /Brands I should consider as I'm totally new in this..and/or thoughts on our choices so far..
I can copy the specifications into this if you prefer for future references.
Sincerely,
CD
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