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02 May 2019 23:18
  • Janeway
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Hello Phoenix & Sensei,

Thanks for providing such an informative and helpful resource. Being near the end of my research, I'm ready to purchase a latex mattress, but I need to ask questions to help narrow down the pros & cons of each approach I'm considering.

- BMI 19.5 (tall and thin), with shoulders about 1/2" broader than hips.
- Shoulders have been a pressure point problem.
- Side and occasional back sleeper.
- Will use a 5 panel, adjustable, queen-sized bed, as the foundation.

Here are the 3 choices I'm considering in a queen size:

Mattress #1 (all Talalay)
- 3" split F layer + 3" split M layer + zippered cover (quilted wool)
- 3" S topper (w/stretch case)

Mattress #2 (all Talalay)
- 3" split F layer + 3" split M layer + zippered cover (Stretch)
- 3" S topper (w/stretch case)

Mattress #3 (all Talalay)
- 3" split F layer + 3" split M layer + 3" single S layer + zippered stretch cover

The difference between 1 & 2 is just the case around the 6" mattress. The difference with #3 is all layers would be inside a case.

With a latex mattress, I'm trying to come close to, (or BETTER!), than the plush/firm, Sealy Crown Jewel, double-sided, pillowtop mattress I purchased around 2001, and loved for many years. I never felt the rock hard springs, until the quilted 2" poly(?) foam + 1/2" (?) memory foam, started to go south, (not sure exactly what was in there, do you know?). However, I intend to steer clear of the toxic crap that was used in its construction. Also, I'm going to use an adjustable bed to maximize comfort, so, an all latex mattress seems the way to go.

What i've tried:
- Tempurpedic Deluxe -After many nights the verdict is: I cant stand the wet sand feel. It's waaaaaay too hard, if I dont have the foot and head adjusted properly, it causes pain/numbness in my shoulders with side sleeping and pain in my calves and heels with back sleeping.

- Savvy Rest or was it Nest? - tried in the showroom, but the cover was soooo stiff, (did they use the sails from a boat???), I couldnt feel my body contouring into the latex, so I basically just floated on top of the soft topper+mattress.

- I've used latex pillows, off and on, so I'm familiar with the feel of Talalay latex, as far as pillows are concerned. I prefer the thin stretch cover that JCPenny & Tempurpedic have used on their products. This allows for maximal contouring, which I believe I will prefer for pressure point relief. I'm considering the separate topper in the #1 & #2 mattress configuration's above, to create more freedom for the latex to conform around me (similar to the construction of the pillow top on my Sealy Crown Jewel, that had a 2" indention all the way around the edge, before it was attached to the cover).


1. Which of the 3 configurations would work best to give me contouring, but little to no wrinkles & shifting in the layers/case/protector, given that I'm going to use an adjustable bed?

2. Are they all going to breathe about the same, when used with an adjustable base? Or will one be less hot than the others? (I'm in an area with long, hot, summers, but i do run an AC when it's 85+ degrees).
3. Any potential cons to any of the 3 configurations I've listed? Such as, durability? Lousy edge support due to smaller topper size? etc.

4. Lastly, I'm trying to understand the "Talalay is more lively than Dunlop" statement. Is it the same annoyance that I experience with a solid latex pillow when laying on my back? I end up with my head flopping to one side, or the other, as there's no grip to the pillow, to keep my head facing forward. I cant tolerate this, and have to use a shredded latex, or down pillow, to stabilize my head, so my muscles can relax when facing forward. If this same problem is what people are complaining about, when they say Talalay is too lively, then maybe I need something else at the surface of the mattress to create this "grip"? A shredded latex topper, perhaps?

Thanks for any help you can offer! The ball needs to get rolling :)

23 Apr 2019 09:06
  • mrunreal
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I will admit we have only had the mattress since Friday so we only had 4 nights on it, but I had gotten to the point I couldn't sleep on it as I was in so much pain. I did buy a 3" Tempur-pedic topper yesterday and it made a world of difference as last night was the first night I got 7 straight hours of sleep I did wake up a little sore but I think that is from the other restless nights. The topper has also given us the plush/pillow top feel we were looking for. We will stick with this setup for at least a week or two and see how we feel.

As for testing the Savvy Rest I did go in with my exact setup as I did call you guys to see what configuration I would need.

Thanks for your help!
22 Apr 2019 14:38
  • Sleep EZ
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Hello and thank you so much for your order and thank you for reaching out to us as well! Please call our showroom and any of our Sleep Experts will be happy to help with dialing in the comfort level of your new Sleep EZ mattress and discussing all options. How long have you had the mattress? Please keep in mind that typically it can take two weeks to adjust to a new mattress. It’s great to have an opportunity to visit a showroom and try out different configurations to find a starting place, but the true test is after you have slept on the new mattress. When you went to Savvy Rest did you try the mattress just as you ordered it from us or did you try all Talalay or with a topper perhaps? For you at 200 lbs and 6 ft we could certainly go a bit softer as you are in what we call a “Gray Zone”, meaning that you are right at a cut off for a Soft/Medium/Firm configuration and right at the beginning criteria for the Medium /Medium/Firm configuration. As such, getting the mattress dialed in for you would normally just require a layer exchange.

If you are looking for an even plusher feel then we would recommend adding a 2” or 3” topper. Having a top layer that is not encased with the rest of the mattress will allow that top layer enough spatial freedom to flex upwards when you lay on it, making for a very plush and enveloping feel. This is what I recommend to customers that are used to pillow top mattresses, memory foam mattresses, or people that are looking for a softer or plusher mattress in general.
22 Apr 2019 08:56
  • mrunreal
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Hello all,

I just recently purchased a Sleep EZ King organic latex mattress. I did a bit of research and was able to test out the Savvy Rest and thought it felt soft but had support but after getting my Sleep EZ last week it feels like I am sleeping on concrete. I can't sleep the whole night I toss and turn and my spine feels like it is taking all my weight as I feel pain all the way up and down my spine. I know there is an adjustment period, but I am not getting any sleep. My layers are (top to bottom) M Talalay, M Dunlop ,F Dunlop and the other side which my girlfriend sleeps on is S Talalay, F Dunlop, F Dunlop which she says isn't bad but she does wake up a little sore in her back. With that said I will be calling Sleep ez today to see what we can do as far as exchanging layers. I am 6ft 200 pounds and she is 5'7'' 160.

Another reason I am posting is I want to see what we can do to help make this mattress feel a little more like a pillow top mattress as I feel like that may be a big issue too as we both miss the fluffy part of a pillow top mattress. I was thinking a wool topper may work or even a layer of gel/memory foam on top.
03 Apr 2019 09:25
  • Arizona Premium
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Thank you for reaching out to us. Due to your budget restrictions it pretty much leaves out the best choice which is an all latex mattress. The only thing that we would have that will come close to meeting your budget requirements would be our Eco Sleep model - www.mattresses.net/eco-sleep-promotional-latex-mattress-w-bamboo-cover.html with the Soft Talalay as the comfort layer choice.

You can always call Verlo to see if they have something like that but I'm pretty sure it's going to be out of your budget range but perhaps you can try it out and get a feel for what I am recommending. You can search for a Savvy Rest dealer in your area. They have a hybrid similar to ours that you can try as well.

I've been matching people up to the proper model and comfort level for over 22 years just over the phone so I do have an excellent track record of getting it right the first time but I understand your concerns about buying something sight unseen. Let me know if you have any other questions.
22 Mar 2019 20:22
  • lotus14
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According to Savvy Rest, and several other sites: "Very soft latex density is 60 kg/m3. When latex is 95 kg/m3, it will be very firm. And there is everything in between."

So yes, I would assume that's a "medium" feel. Feel is very subjective. I'm also a side sleeper. For me a medium (28-32 ILD) with 3" of soft (20-24 ILD) would be much too firm.

What is on top of this core? There are many options for toppers that would soften the feel of the mattress.
19 Mar 2019 10:54
  • sweetandsourkiwi
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Own a Zenhaven and their foundation! They contract to various companies and mine was built on the west coast.

They have replaced the entire setup once because the foundation was not up to the task of holding both the mattress and 135 pound me. It caved in, over an inch.

Now, bed #2 has had the same problem. As of 2 nights ago, I scooched the mattress (also 135 pounds) onto the floor and it's been a totally different experience sleeping on it.

The foundation looks like a solid platform but it's not. It's 9 slats, spaced unevenly (so there are more under lumbar) across the bed. Then there are 2 longwise slats under that, with some sort of cardboard or something to add the idea of flatness. It's not enough to hold the bed up, mine caved in the middle but also gave a lot more outside the lumbar area.

The foundation also added more bounce to the bed. I actually liked that part. On the foundation, you'd have to be paying attention to notice that the bed didn't have springs. On the floor, it feels more like a foam bed.

I would absolutely consider this foundation a mistake purchase, despite the general forum line to have a detailed conversation with the manufacturer and do what they say. Note that Zenhaven is not a member of this forum, though.

I don't think it's a bad mattress, although it didn't fit me perfectly as a lightweight side sleeper—mostly, too much shoulder pressure (everything else was pretty good, actually.) The one thing it has going for it is zoning, which does seem to help me, at least in the hip department. The only other all-latex beds that I know of that also zone are FloBeds at about $800 more, and DIY setups.

That, and the decisions are made for you. While the component beds give you more options, I personally find it a bit boggling. You might think only 3 layers sounds pretty simple but it gets complicated fast.

My number one vote would be to see if you can try latex in your hometown, either through a local manufacturer or a mattress store that sells all-latex beds. You could look for Savvy Rest or Naturepedic or Posh + Lavish to get some idea of the various feels.

As for the foundation, I just found out that Luma Sleep contracts the very reputable KD Frames to make their foundation. The KD frame I just bought is supposedly bombproof...had I known Luma's were an option I might have gone that route instead!

Good luck!
19 Mar 2019 06:20
  • Sensei
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Hey Supasta33,

Sometimes our consumers come in and out of the TMU, so not always get responses from people that posted in the past. Just giving you a heads up if you have other questions, feel free to post again, and we will try to help.

Thanks again,
16 Mar 2019 21:03
  • Supasta33
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What did you end up going with? We are torn between too.

06 Mar 2019 11:01
  • Rambeau
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Hi Guys -- I am interested in building a bed with SleepEz to utilize their 20% promotion going on and expiring within the next couple of days and am trying to emulate the Savvy Rest Unity Pillowtop bed that I know my partner and my needs. We are interested in a split design Organic 9" 3 layer latex mattress with a separate 3" full size topper on top. We need some assistance with the layering to accommodate our varying statures.

Sleeper 1:
6'3", 195 pounds, back and side sleeper

Sleeper 2:
5'6", 120 pounds, side sleeper

Can you please assist with your recommended configuration of the layers?

I very much appreciate your assistance!
20 Feb 2019 11:04
  • oBMTo
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I have a Nest Hybrid Latex incoming and currently have a Zinus Demetric Steel Elite Smartbase 14" frame . Is this frame good enough? Anything I can add to make it better, like a bed rug ?
30 Jan 2019 12:26
  • PugLife
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Long time reader, first time caller!

I and my significant other are looking for hopefully our last mattress. Our search starts mainly due to nerve pain in my lower back and legs that has developed over the past two years, as well as my significant other's off & on shoulder/upper body pain.

A bit about us: I'm late 30's, 5'8", 145lbs; she's late 20's, 5'0", 115lbs. I work a few hours in the morning from home at my desk, followed by 8+ hours in the evening in a restaurant; she works about 8+ hours at a desk job. We live in the Bay Area and both commute via walking/subway, about a mile walking RT, I walk another 2 miles while at work.

We are both primarily side sleepers(60-70%), with the rest on our back, and very occasionally stomach sleepers. I sometimes use a latex pillow to elevate my legs when first lying in bed, but then usually wind up on my side. If my knees or legs are really bothering me, I will lay on my stomach until the pain subsides-- seems as tho the pain comes from a pinched nerve near my tailbone/lower back, which then causes pain in my extremities, mostly my legs. She experiences occasional shoulder pain, mostly dependent on sleep position, but also mattress/pillow type, likely from a nerve impingement in her neck, caused by a sports injury years ago. We've both fairly fit, and have visited various Dr's, done PT, and exercise somewhat regularly to try to deal with these issues.

We've also tried a rollercoaster of mattresses in the past year or so in search of a solution:

-When I first met my SO three years ago, I had an Ikea innerspring mattress that was supposedly their best mattress. I owned it for approximately six years, it was fine, if uneventful, up until the pain began. We then tried a series of beds-in-a-box before wising up that they are mostly overhyped marketing: a T&N, a Purple, and a in-house hybrid model from Urban Mattress, called the 'Uptown'. All were varying levels of terrible and seemed to aggravate my point pressure sensitivity and pain more, until we did some actual research and discovered...

-Latex! Between here and SleepLikeTheDead, all-latex seemed the best option considering my point pressure sensitivity. Visited Savvy Rest for a test, and talalay latex seemed like a promising solution(not their pricing tho-- whoooa!). Upon learning that Talalay Global is the only large scale manufacturer of talalay, we sought out a more affordable manufacturer that utilized their components, which led us to FloBeds.com, a quick 3hr scenic drive away. Opted for their vZone model, three layers of varying ILD's of solid talalay, as well as a layer of convoluted talalay topper as well as a 3" wool topper, for even less point pressure. This mattress was fairly close to what we are looking for, but just a touch too soft, and not lively enough, we seemed to need something with some 'bounce', returned at three months.

-Deciding that latex was the path, but springs were part of that combo, we went through a series of latex/innerspring hybrids that we thought would be our goldilocks, in order: Avocado(a touch too firm, 2" of D65, 1" of D65, all dunlop; L&P QuantumEdge base), Nest Hybrid Latex(too soft, 3" talalay 24ILD over L&P CaliberEdge, followed by a swap to 36ILD, which was too firm, but was very supportive), and now the Brentwood Home Cedar(2" D65 dunlop, 2" D65 grooved Dunlop over a L&P QuantumEdge base-- we later learned that this is made in the same facility as the Avocado, from similar components). This last one seems to be the closest we've gotten, but it's still not perfect-- my back and butt seem to be missing some support, which seem to be pushing pain out into my legs.

So, at this point, I feel pretty much like I have to go custom, which leads me to two options:

1: There's a guy locally who has a relationship with Costco, selling Reverie roadshow demo and backstock mattress for what is a unusually good deal-- their Dream Supreme 8x Mattress, and 8X adjustable base, for a shade over $1k. This appeals to us, because it gives us the option to try a few different configurations of their Dreamcell foam 'springs' to try and get the right firmness, and we also get a great adjustable base for a good price, which is something we want long-term anyways. OTOH, we're also concerned that the lack of traditional springs may make this bed feel less lively, like the FloBed. Worst case scenario, we buy the set, don't care for the mattress, sell it on craigslist for a few hundred, and now we have a really nice adjustable base for a pretty good price.

2: Go full DIY, either via whomever the community recommends. This is where I would ask for some recommendations as far as composition(and sourcing), but my rough sandwich idea is this, top to bottom:
1" or 2" 28 ILD convoluted latex top layer --- for point pressure relief(apparently this feels more like a 14 ILD-- I have no idea where to get this)
1" or 2" 25-29 ILD latex core -- for transitional support
3" 30-34 ILD latex core -- for firm support
8" Leggett & Platt QuantumEdge Combi-Zone --- for flex and livelyness
wrapped in a bamboo & wool cover, and we may use our 3" wool topper on top for more point pressure uniformity.

My idea here is that I want a good spring system with good edge support, with very firm back support, transitioning into a point pressure relieving top layer, while retaining compatibility with an adjustable base. I realize this mattress will be tall, so ideas on how to reduce height without losing effectiveness are also welcome.

Thanks for taking the time to read, and I'd love to hear the underground's thoughts on what route we should take, as well as mattress composition, and component sourcing!
12 Jan 2019 22:12
  • phoenix
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Hi gryffin/Nicole.

I am glad that Nest closely guided you through the selection process (they are very skilled and knowledgeable) .. their Hybrid Natural Latex is a good quality/value option that seems to be a close fit to your needs and preferences. Of course, until you sleep on it for a while and allow your body to adjust to the mattress and for the mattress to break in a bit you can’t be 100% sure, but so far all looks very promising.

I need to look for something I can put over the plywood- I started reading through the pinned post on this forum. I found the Coir mats- is that enough? I couldn't find a slat conversion kit- Flobeds shows something on their site, but they don't sell it.

A Choir bed rug would be a good choice as its porous structure allows for air to circulate more freely between the mattress bottom and the plywood. While IMO the bed rug in combination with the pocket coils would ensure adequate ventilation and breathability, as usual in these cases I always recommend checking manufacturer policies and ask them to clarify if using the coconut husks layer for ventilation would be enough and wouldn't invalidate their mattress warranty in case things don't turn out as well as you have hoped for. You can read Joe Alexander’s (Nest’s CEO) thoughts about mattress breathability in this article here .

You probably came across some of my past recommendations for something like this bed rug in between the mattress and the plywood ... SavvyRest’s 1" bed Rug would most likely be thin enough to still allow access to the storage compartments in the headboard. FloBeds slat conversions here (which has no flex) would also be suitable so I'd make a call find out if is discontinued or if they just don't have it available at the moment. I also previously linked one of the Ikea slatted bed bases here (which you’d certainly need to check on the thickness but because it has some flex it may change how the mattress feels and performs). You can also look into something like the fabric covered Bunkie Boards here that wouldn't add too much height to your platform bed. If this passes Nest's approval and if you are somewhat DIY inclined this can be a fun little project to make it fit your platform bed's exact height specifications.

I am looking forward to hearing what the final setup is and how it all works out for you.

06 Jan 2019 22:22
  • Peter.S
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The Thread on Latex is Locked, I'm sure this is the wrong place to post and apologize in advance for mucking up my first post at TMU.

First I should caveat this post by thanking you Phoenix for the simply amazing job you do helping folks educate themselves about mattresses – a topic that has been of great interest to me for years.
Earlier this past year I was on a determined mission to buy a new mattress our seven years old king size memory foam had bottomed out, developed deep indentations and was in need of getting the boot and getting it fast. Although my husband can sleep on anything, literally he would be fine on a bed of glass shards and rusty nails.

I’m the exact opposite and even when I was much heavier with a BMI of “watch out it’s moving towards you” it seemed I was even more sensitive to the defects within the mattress beneath me – I began to seriously consider a latex mattress.

However, our life as we knew it, including mattress shopping came to a screeching halt when I was diagnosed with Colon Cancer in late October of 2018. I mention this because now my needs had changed considerably this was a total game changer. I was scheduled for surgery and knew I would need to make some changes to fit my new PPP.

For instance, I felt the mattress should be tall, almost waist high so getting in and out especially in the early days of recovery where you feel all of your core muscles had vanished - I had turned into Gumby but without the inside wire. I also believed recovery would be easier with denser foams in the top comfort layer so I would be less prone to getting stuck in one position and movement such as rolling over from one side to the other would be less of a struggle.
We ended up with a tall inner spring (14.5”) and low profile foundation that has worked beautifully. We’re pleased and so are the dogs and let’s face it, it’s their opinion that really counts.
I think because I’ve lost a significant amount of weight (70 pounds) that what was soft/plush to me 70 pounds ago feels firmer now at least this is my based on zero evidence conclusion. The problem is that even though I’m a side sleeper I wake up with tightness in my lower back. I had been thinking about a latex topper – I had heard the right time to add a topper was when a bed was new rather than old and lumpy and that a good mattress topper would wear out first and extend the life of the comfort layers below which I have no clue if this is true but it sounds like it could be. Add the thought of a more luxurious feeling to the mattress make it all sound like a good idea.
I’ve looked around all over the place they have toppers on Amazon where you get at least a 30 day return (providing it’s shipped by Amazon) is appealing but most of them aren’t listed as Dunlop or Talalay just “Natural” which is and I might be mistaken meaningless as there are no set standards the product has to meet.
I’ve considered toppers from 1.5 inches to 4” and think 3” my inclination is to go with soft with an ILD of around 20 would provide the extra cushy comfort I want and support at the hips and shoulder (I’m a side sleeper) that I hope to add.
With new treatment coming up quickly I know so will new aches and pains and because I’m spending more time in bed then the average Joe would want to so I’m trying to create as comfortable a surface as is within my – it’s all a lot to expect from a slab of foam but I’m finicky.

A few questions:

* Do all king size toppers have a seam down the middle – seems like most are two twin Xl’s glued together
* With my weight at 220 Would a medium (ILD of 28 - 30) be less prone to flattening out beneath me than a soft at an ILD of 20?
* With companies that often swap latex layers to help out their customers like SOL and Plush Beds how do you know you’re getting an unused Topper and not a return from another customer?
* I would have the topper between a puffy mattress protector and thin waterproof protector that said is a cover important?
* Do latex slabs such as those used within latex mattresses and toppers crumble?

In addition to Amazon, I’ve looked at Savvy Rest, Sleep on latex, Brooklyn Bedding’s Topper site ( I like their return policy) and others – although I avoid taking to heart reviews about comfort. I do consider reviews when I see common complaints like “strong rubber smell” which I come across frequently.

Thanks for suffering through my long winded post, I hope you had enough No-Doze handy I would love to hear any thoughts and especially hearing about other companies that sell a quality latex topper.
Thank’s In Advance,
09 Dec 2018 20:17
  • phoenix
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Hi drderek.

Welcome to our Mattress Forum! :)

I need help looking for a supportive innerspring mattress. I got married a year ago, and within the last year, we've gone through 4 different king mattresses (Helix, Helix extra firm, Dreamfoam Spring Dreams, & Simmons Beautyrest Altman). All 4 of them sunk a lot around my hips and I've actually developed lower back pain. I almost exclusively sleep on my back.

As a back sleeper, you are correct that you need a firmer and more supportive sleeping surface. Back sleeping has a slightly less curvy profile that is not quite as deep as in side sleeping and the "gap" that needs to be filled in with the comfort layer for pressure relief is generally the small of the back (the lumbar area) which is why a slightly thinner and firmer top layer will generally work a much better. In other words for back sleeping a slightly shallower cradle is needed. A good starting point for a back sleeper is 2" of softer material on top of your mattress and then increasing or decreasing from there depending on other factors like weight, preferences, or other sleeping positions.

I actually love the twin mattress I grew up sleeping on and I've slept on it for over 30 years. It's a Sealy Posture Premium Level IV but I can't find any information about it. The main reason I like it is that it's very supportive with no sinkage. I really feel like it pushes up against my hips and I never had back pain when I used to sleep on it. I don't think it even has foam layers, which is what I actually like! I've read that old innerspring mattresses were constructed with a thin layer of cotton/wool batting, and I think that's what my twin mattress has.

I am not sure what’s in the comfort layer of the Posture Premium IV but regardless of the brand generally mattresses that were made that long ago tended to use higher quality materials (in the comfort layers especially) than the mainstream mattresses made today (see post #3 here ). Even though you do not perceive any “sinkage” it's almost sure to have lost some of comfort layers' height and firmness since you purchased it even if the foams don't show any visible impressions. (this can be confirmed by testing ILDs of the materials in your mattress for firmness/softness). If you were to open up the mattress you'd probably also discover that the foam (or batting) inside had some minimal compression but not enough to make any meaningful difference in comfort or support. If your mattress was two-sided (which were also the norm at that time) then if you flipped the mattress on occasion it would also even out any impressions and allow the side that wasn't in use to recover and even though it would still be gradually softening over time, it would soften more evenly over the entire surface so it wouldn't be as visible.

While there may be some slight impressions (that you may or may not notice over time) a firm hybrid latex mattress that is a suitable match for you in terms of PPP will last you for many years. You can see a video here of a latex mattress that was in use for almost 50 years (although most people wouldn't keep any mattress for nearly that long because their own needs and preferences would also change over time and 50 years for any mattress isn't a realistic expectation) and both blended Talalay and 100% natural Dunlop have a long history of lasting decades (see post #9 here ).

I'm not sure what you've read since you found the site but just in case you haven't read it yet ... the first place to start your research is the mattress shopping tutorial here which includes all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choice ... and perhaps more importantly know how and why to avoid the worst ones.
Two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you've read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best "match" for you in terms of "comfort", firmness, and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for).

So I was hoping someone could help me find a mattress with:…

The criteria you previously listed fits a wide range of products so unfortunately, it is not possible to predict and point you to a specific mattress or combination of materials and components you will do best with or that you will sleep best on with any certainty based on specs or "theory at a distance" …I would be very skeptical of anyone who claims that they do but you seem to be heading in the right direction in planning to do some local testing… you’ve been through quite a few mattresses in the last year and you’ve collected enough data points that will be helpful in your discussion with trusted manufacturer/retailer to find a suitable and long lasting mattress. Some good local testing will also give you a much better sense of the many different types of materials and components that are used in mattresses and some reference points about the types of mattresses (see this article ) and confirm the firmness level you tend to prefer which can help you narrow down your choices regardless of whether you end up purchasing locally or online.

I should probably add that I live in the greater Los Angeles area, specifically San Bernardino, but I commute back to Los Angeles a lot so I wouldn't mind checking out a few stores there.

At a quick glance some of the Trusted members of our site that carry products that fit your description are Flexus Comfort and Nest Bedding . Flexus has their manufacturing facility in Covina, and Nest in Los Angeles and also CA on your I10 or 210 commutes that you can visit and whose products would meet the criteria that you are looking for in a mattress and will go to great lengths to ensure that the mattress is suitable for you. Also going the other direction on I15 you can visit the Mattress Makers that has some double sided firm options such as the Kensington firm that you may wish to test. I’d certainly do some local testing and rely on the guidance of a knowledgeable manufacturer or retailer that can help you narrow down your choices.

If you are interested specifically in latex or latex hybrid mattresses then this link in the tutorial is to a list of the members here that sell mattresses online and many of them sell latex and latex hybrid mattresses that use different types and blends of latex that have a wide range of different designs, options, features, return and exchange policies, and prices that may be worth considering. Post #3 here also includes a list of many of the online manufacturers that sell component latex mattresses.

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