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17 Jul 2016 05:46
  • jsuehl
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I've tried a bunch of mattresses and am struggling to find one that works for me. I sleep on my back and side. My back prefers a firmer mattress, but my shoulders prefer something softer. I've tried two Latex mattresses, including Flobeds, but latex just doesn't seem to have enough support for my lower back. I've tried Helix and T&N, also which also weren't enough support for my lower back. The only one that solved my lower back pain was Sealy Posturpedic Hybrid, but I returned it because I don't think it will last - too many reviewers said it broke down quickly, and the model in the store was much softer than the one I tried even after sleeping on it for 120 days, so I don't think it will remain supportive enough over time, and I also would prefer a more natural mattress. I haven't tried a true memory foam mattress, so I think that might be worth a shot. I am considering Loom & Leaf or Amerisleep. On both I am not sure whether to get the firmer version (Revere from Ameriasleep) or the medium firm (Liberty from Amerisleep). I think the support for my lower back is more important that the shoulder comfort because the back pain wakes me up in the night and is more intense than the shoulder stiffness which is more of a "next day" phenomena. Has anyone tried both of these mattresses, and do you have any advise? Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!
01 Jul 2016 09:13
  • Ardler
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I've been reading as much info from the shopping guide and forums as possible and it has helped tremendously. My situation is that every mattress I've ever owned has been handed down to me, so I've never really been mattress shopping, and don't even know my own preferences fully yet. My current mattress is a cheap innerspring which was given to me a couple years ago, but it is over 30 years old. I've decided it's time to finally get a quality mattress. I am 5’9 and about 165lbs.

I've kind of narrowed down my choices of what I want, but it's very hard for me to make a decision without a chance to test these mattresses in person. I'm hoping someone can give me some comparable feeling mattresses from other brands (like tempurpedic) that I could test out in the store. That will give me a better idea of what type of mattress I'd prefer.

What I'm currently looking at is:
Novosbed medium
Novosbed soft
Nest Alexander medium
Nest Alexander soft

I was also considering Amerisleep and Loom and Leaf, but after reading the forums I think I should probably stay away from those brands. I was also thinking about the Original Mattress Factory Serenity because it seems like it uses very quality materials. But that might be a little more money than I want to pay.

I know comfort is subjective so I'm not asking which is more comfortable. I want to know what mattresses that I can easily test are comparable in feeling so I can decide which is most comfortable to me.

Any help anyone can give would be most appreciated. Thanks.

Chris
12 Jun 2016 18:11
  • Dave_C
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ADMIN: *** New topic split from this topic ***

Hi LYunsaker,

In doing my research, below are the sites I found that all concur with Astrabeds being the most-highly rated, any advice would be appreciated.

bestmattress-brand(org), whatsthebestbed(org), bestmattress-reviews(org), mattress-inquirer(com), mattressjournal(com).


I would hope that you have seen through these sites and recognized that they are only advertising sites for Astrabeds. :blink: .

All of these sites are a few of many owned and run by Astrabeds (or their sister companies Amerisleep or Simply Rest) and part of their massive marketing campaign to create an internet presence. It's pretty clear that they are just "masquerading" as being "independent".

Astrabeds is just part of a larger marketing company (and somewhat high pressure at that) that sells latex mattresses ... they are certainly not manufacturers or even "mattress people" and I would take much of what they say with a grain of salt because much of it is certainly not factual and they don't provide what I would consider to be accurate information. While latex is certainly a great material ... these are also not the best value available to you. You can read a conversation I had with them here and you can read more about this group of companies in post #4 here and post #4 here . A forum search on Astrabeds or Simplyrest or Amerisleep (which along with others are owned by onemallgroup which specializes in viral marketing in partnership with Kim Tyrone Agapito ) will bring up more information about them.

Botanical and natural are just two words for the same thing meaning natural rubber that comes from a tree. You can read more about the different types of latex in this article and in post #6 here .

If you are looking for online latex mattress sources that provide better quality, value, knowledge, experience, and customer service ... and are truly mattress people ... then the list in post #21 here should be helpful.

Before proceeding further with Astrabeds (or any of their sister companies) I would be very cautious and do some "real" research on more reputable sites with more accurate and less biased information and talk with more knowledgeable manufacturers and retailers.

Phoenix


FANTASTIC INFORMATION, Phoenix! Thank you. I am back in the market and probably going latex and ran into Astrabeds in one of their marketing sites listed in the OP. They certainly know how to mix fact with fiction in a convincing manner. After a lot of my own research, as well as the great info you provide here, I am leaning heavily towards Urban Green (FSF) at this point.
12 Feb 2016 19:43
  • kyebean
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The overview of memory foam states: "even the newer generation more breathable memory foams are not as breathable or open celled as other types of foam."

I don't know when this was written and I don't know of any specification for breathability so I was wondering if anyone knows how the most breathable memory foams compare to Talalay..

Elite Foam claims 95% breathability improvement: elitefoam.com/products/coolflow/
Amerisleep claims their Bio-Pur+ is 70% more breathable than Bio-Pur: www.amerisleep.com/technology

Thank you.
31 Oct 2015 12:53
  • phoenix
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Hi Wombat207,

Any final thoughts in the value/quality of this mattress? We were also considering the Amerisleep colonial, but it seems that you have been less than impressed by their quality/value. Any last minute advice before I pull the trigger? Thanks.


There is little I can add to my previous comments. If you have done some careful testing on the Cloud Supreme Breeze and it's a good match for you in terms of PPP and you have also talked with Novosbed on the phone about your choice then it doesn't have any lower quality materials or weak links in the design and if it also meets all the other parts of your personal value equation that are important to you then it would certainly be well worth considering.

NOTE ADDED JAN, 2016: They have now introduced their new simplified choice mattress which has replaced their previous models and have also become a member of this site.

You can read more about Amerisleep and their sister companies and their so called "expert sites" that pose as being independent review sites in post #2 here and the posts it links to. A forum search on Amerisleep (you can just click the link) will bring up will bring up all the forum posts that mention them.

The specs of their mattresses are listed here and their Colonial uses 2" of 4 lb memory foam which is a good quality material but there is 4" of 1.65 lb polyfoam underneath the memory foam which is "better than average" compared to most mainstream manufacturers but is also a little lower quality/density material than I would normally suggest in the guidelines here for a one sided mattress.

Assuming that you decide to pull the trigger ... congratulations on your new mattress :)

I'm also looking forward to your comments and feedback once you've received it and have had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.

Phoenix
31 Oct 2015 12:34
  • Wombat207
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Thank you again. I think I have narrowed it down to the Novosbed Harmony. This seems to meet our requirements and most people speak favorably about the mattress. I see that you also like Novosbed. Any final thoughts in the value/quality of this mattress? We were also considering the Amerisleep colonial, but it seems that you have been less than impressed by their quality/value. Any last minute advice before I pull the trigger? Thanks.
30 Oct 2015 15:58
  • phoenix
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Hi Gooberboi,

I am coming from an Amerisleep Liberty mattress and was wondering how does the Tuft & Needle stacks up against it? From all the reviews I looked over. Many has stated that it runs a little firmer than normal. Personally, I don't mind but my wife tends to prefer plush to medium plush.

Hoping to find out more about this mattress!


I would doubt that any of the forum members have slept on both mattresses for an extended period of time but even if they had their experience may be very different from yours.

While other people's comments about the knowledge and service of a particular business can certainly be very helpful ... I would also be very cautious about about using other people's experiences or reviews on a mattress (either positive or negative) as a reliable source of information or guidance about how you will feel on the same mattress or how suitable or how durable a mattress may be for you and in many if not most cases they can be more misleading than helpful because any mattress that would be a perfect choice for one person or even a larger group of people may be completely unsuitable for someone else to sleep on (even if they are in a similar weight range) and reviews in general certainly won't tell you much if anything about the quality, durability, or "value" of a mattress for any particular person (see post #13 here ).

There are no "standard" definitions or consensus of opinions for firmness ratings and different manufacturers can rate their mattresses very differently than others so a mattress that one manufacturer rates as being a specific firmness could be rated very differently by another manufacturer.

Different people can also have very different perceptions of firmness and softness compared to others as well and a mattress that feels firm for one person can feel like "medium" for someone else or even "soft" for someone else (or vice versa) depending on their body type, sleeping style, physiology, their frame of reference based on what they are used to, and their individual sensitivity and perceptions. There are also different types of firmness and softness that different people may be sensitive to that can affect how they "rate" a mattress as well (see post #15 here ) so different people can have very different opinions on how two mattresses compare in terms of firmness and some people may rate one mattress as being firmer than another and someone else may rate them the other way around. This is all relative and very subjective and is as much an art as a science.

In addition to this the Amerisleep Liberty is a memory foam mattress that is in a completely different category from Tuft & Needle which uses a high performance polyfoam in the comfort layers which is a more resilient material than memory foam (which has little to no resilience or "bounce" at all) so even if they have a similar firmness level they will "feel" very different from each other.

There is more information about the type and quality/durability of the materials in the Tuft & Needle mattress in post #2 here in the simplified choice mattress topic and in posts #2 and #6 here .

The materials in the Tuft & Needle mattress are higher quality and more durable than the materials in the Amerisleep Liberty which uses lower density 1.5 lb polyfoam in the transition and base layers which could be a weak link in their mattress in terms of durability but the durability of a material has very little to do with it's firmness or how it "feels".

When you can't test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help "talk you through" the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and "feel" of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness etc) and whether a specific mattress may be a good "match" for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the "averages" of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about "matching" their specific mattress designs and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.

Like the other simplified choice mattresses they also have a great trial period so you can test them in your bedroom instead of a showroom with little risk outside of the time you spend trying it (or returning/donating it if it doesn't work out as well as you hoped) but the "bottom line" is that the only way to know how firm a mattress feels for you (regardless of how firm it may feel for anyone else) or how it compares to another mattress (again regardless of how it may compare for someone else) will be based on your own personal experience.

Phoenix
30 Oct 2015 15:12
  • Gooberboi
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Hello all! I am looking to buy my first Tuft & Needle mattress and looking at all the reviews, it seems like the mattress for me at a great price point.

I am coming from an Amerisleep Liberty mattress and was wondering how does the Tuft & Needle stacks up against it? From all the reviews I looked over. Many has stated that it runs a little firmer than normal. Personally, I don't mind but my wife tends to prefer plush to medium plush.

Hoping to find out more about this mattress!

-Chris
26 Oct 2015 08:28
  • Wombat207
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Hello. I have been following your site for awhile and have read your tutorial, other subscribers posts, etc. I am looking for equivalent suggestions on some beds my wife have tried. We like the feel of the Tempurpedic cloud elite, cloud supreme, and cloud supreme breeze. About us...

1. I am 6'0 and weigh 180lbs, wife is 5'6 125lbs.
2. We are mostly side sleepers but will sleep on back occasionally..
3. We live in San Antonio, Texas.
4. We both are having some back and shoulder pain....likely from our 5 year old spring coil mattress.

I have looked at Novosbed aria and this seems like a good choice but the harmony is also a possibility. Have also looked at amerisleep, select foam(worried about their terrible bbb rating), and lots of other online retailers.....

Thoughts and suggestions? If you were to buy a memory foam bed today what would be your top choices for the above criteria? Your help is greatly appreciated.
07 Oct 2015 10:05
  • Barry Stuckman
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Hello everyone!

I'm rather new to this wonderful community, so please bear with me.

It could very well be that I missed something, but after reading the "Mattress Shopping Tutorial", as well as skimming through most of the other articles available on this site, I wasn't able to find anything that supports this statement:

If the mattress matches the criteria that I listed in terms of quality/value and you know the details of all the layers then I would consider it in terms of it's "value" yes. this means knowing the details of every layer (including foam density) and knowing that it used CertiPur certified materials or at the very least that the materials were made in North America.


Here's my quick takeaway from this: (in terms of quality, not PPP)
  1. CertiPur-US certification > Country of manufacture
  2. Being made in the USA, Canada, or even Mexico is the next best thing to CertiPur
  3. A CertiPur made in China is more promising than a non-CeritPur from the US

Please feel free to correct any misinterpretations I may have made. I'd just really like to have some clarification on the importance of these two attributes in specific relation to the overall quality (PPP aside) of a mattress. One of my main concerns is that the CertiPur certification has lost some of its value. Reason being, there is a substantial amount of manufacturers on the list now that weren't there a few years ago. Of course, this is to be expected (progress and all that), but I remember seeing the list just in 2013 and it was considerably shorter. Here's a perfect example:

I would also confirm that the manufacturer of your mattress is listed on the CertiPur list here (some retailers use the CertiPur logo but aren't on the list). I believe that the Brentwood Well-Being mattresses are made by SilverRest which also isn't on the CertiPur list.

ADMIN NOTE: Removed 404 page link | Archived Footprint: certipur.us/pages/for-consumers/find-products/

That quote is from May of 2014. Both, Brentwood and SilverRest are now on the list. So while I can understand that change is inevitable, I'd be foolish to brush-off a sudden influx that occurred within a year's time. It's probably nothing, but it sure would mean a lot to have you guys put me at ease on this matter.

Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to be part of this community and having a place where I can voice my concerns. I look forward to your replies.
03 Aug 2015 18:44
  • B Feelgood
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So, I am currently sleeping on an 8 year old Serta pillow top mattress. After five years in, I put on a memory foam topper that I purchased from Costco. It was a rather good one I believe as it was around $200. Fast forward to year eight and I am not sleeping very well anymore. There is no sinkage in the mattress itself but the pillow top portion of it is flattened and you can feel the coils beneath it.. The memory foam topper has a good amount of sinkage to it and there is certainly a dip in the middle of it. It has become worn out and too soft now.

About 90% of the time I sleep on my right side. The other 10% is a mix of back sleeping by accidentally turning over in the middle of the night.

Recently I went to four or five mattress stores and tried out tons of mattresses. The only one that left a lasting impression on me was the Tempurpedic Cloud Supreme. As we all know though, this isn't the best way to pick out a mattress. It actually felt like you were getting what you were paying for as the foam was very comfortable. However, it may have been just a tad too soft as there was another Tempurpedic next to it that was just a hair firmer that I liked slightly more but can't remember the name of it. I want something comparable to this but definitely can't spend $3,000 on a mattress right now. I tried a latex bed at a couple of the stores but found them to be a little firmer than I like as I felt like I was floating on on top of them instead of being cuddled by them.

So I turned to the trusty internet and started my research. It turns out that there are a handful of small overnight startup businesses claiming to sell mattresses at a 1/3 of the price of big name brands. However, an average consumer is hard pressed to tell the difference between them with the guerilla marketing and refer a friend advertisements. Everything feels a like fake or hard to believe about these companies.

I am looking to spend somewhere in the neighborhood of $700 to $1,400 for a comparable king sized memory foam mattress. I just bought a Lifestyle Solutions Zurich king platform bed and I need a mattress to fill it ASAP.

Casper
Tuft and Needle
NovosBed
DreamFoam
Brooklyn Bedding
Novaform
Loom and Leaf
Leesa
YogoBed
AmeriSleep
Christeli
Nest Bedding
(Any other mail order brands I'm missing?)

I was actually all set to buy the Leesa mattress until I found this forum and discovered that the quality of materials aren't the best. Can someone please point me in the right direction to a high quality memory foam mattress?

Thanks in advance!
28 Jun 2015 16:06
  • phoenix
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Hi polyphasicsleep,

American company made a better product for Canadian market??
Both are manufactured in USA ??


That would depend on how you are defining "better". Amerisleep used to use 4.5 lb memory foam in their US models so it's possible that they are selling their old models in Canada and are now using 4 lb memory foam in their US models. In general terms 4.5 lb memory foam would tend to be slightly more durable than 4 lb memory foam but it can also depend on some of the other factors that can affect durability as well since they are fairly close in terms of density (densities aren't exact and spec tolerances can sometimes vary by +/- 5 - 10% in a batch of foam. There is more about the many variables that can affect the durability and useful life of a mattress relative to different people in post #4 here and the posts it links to.

There is more about the most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase in post #13 here that can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses.

You can read more about Amerisleep and their sister companies and their so called "expert sites" that pose as being independent review sites in post #2 here and the posts it links to. A forum search on Amerisleep (you can just click the link) will bring up will bring up all the forum posts that mention them but as far as I know all the forum members that were considering them ended up purchasing somewhere else except for two (see post #5 here and post #1 here ) who both ended up returning their mattress. While they are in a "better than average" value range compared to most mainstream choices ... there are also other options available that for most people would be a better quality/value choice.

I know the subject to be already the talk, but several company does not compress the foam, is it better or not in terms of quality rather than transport economy.


Compressing a foam for a few weeks during transportation won't harm most good quality foams but with longer term compression (such as foams or mattresses that are shipped from China or stored compressed for longer periods of time in a warehouse) it certainly can. It's also true that some foams that are firmer or denser or stiffer aren't as suitable for compression and in this case they need to be shipped uncompressed with a common carrier rather than through a courier. A mattress manufacturer will generally work with their foam manufacturer to make sure that they are using foams that are suitable for the shipping methods they use.

Phoenix
28 Jun 2015 15:38
  • Polyphasicsleep
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USA = 4.0-lb density VS Canada 4.5 lbs with different ILD
Amerisleep USA www.amerisleep.com/mattresses-comparison
Amerisleep Canada www.amerisleep.ca/mattresses-comparison

American company made a better product for Canadian market??
Both are manufactured in USA ??

I know the subject to be already the talk, but several company does not compress the foam, is it better or not in terms of quality rather than transport economy.

Select a bed say: The Gold, Platinum and Diamond Tri-Pedic mattresses use a true high resilient (HR) foam base that are unsurpassed in longevity and support. This high quality material should never be compressed for small box shipping like you will find with lesser quality mattresses.

Tempur-Pedic, same thing....


Thanks !
19 May 2015 12:16
  • phoenix
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Hi billynath1988,

I have spent the last few days reading and researching threads and stickies on here and everywhere only to be spun in circles and end up having know idea what the right choice is. Just when I think i've found the perfect mattress I read something convincing that says otherwise. usually from here. (amerisleep, dynasty, amazon stuff) I am hoping to provide some of you pro's here with my information of what we are looking for and you can point me in the right direction of a good manufacturer or even a specific mattress. After reading some threads with similar questions ill try to provide any information that can help you help me. anything i'm missing just ask.


It sounds like you've read the mattress shopping tutorial which has all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choice ... and perhaps more importantly know how and why to avoid the worst ones.

Two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you've read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress that is the best "match" for you in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for that are involved in each of them and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability, durability, and value.

I live in long island, NY
I am 5'10 185lbs, have slipped discs in my neck and back and a bad left shoulder. ( I sleep either on my back stomach or right side but I usually end up tossing around to find a comfortable spot. I also find that I get hot when I sleep. so a mattress that helps with that is important to me as well.

My fiance is 5'4 110lbs and really only suggested we get a slightly denser feeling mattress then what we have now with the memory foam mattress topper.


You are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or combination of materials and components would be the best "match" for you in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) based on specs (either yours or a mattress) or "theory at a distance" that can possibly be more accurate than your own careful testing or personal experience ... hopefully using the testing guidelines in the tutorial post (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here ).

Having said that ... I can certainly help you to narrow down your options, help you focus on better quality/value choices that are available to you either locally or online, help you identify any lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress you may be considering, act as a fact check, answer any questions you may have along the way that I am able to help with, and help with "how" to choose but only you can decide which specific mattress is the best match for you in terms of PPP and all the other parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including your budget or course).

There is also more about the many variables that can affect sleeping temperature in post #2 here that can help you choose the combination of materials and components and the types of mattresses that will have the best chance of keeping you in a temperature range that you are comfortable with.

It sounds like you have read step 1 and step 2 of the tutorial so step 3 would be deciding on the local stores or manufacturers that you wish to visit. The better options or possibilities I'm aware of in the Long Island area (subject to the quality/value guidelines I linked) are listed in post #4 here and it also includes a link to the New York City list as well.

The tutorial post also includes two links to lists of the better online options I'm aware of as well (in the optional online step).

As a point of reference, Up until I found this website we were pretty sure we were going to buy the Amerisleep Revere kingsize bed.


The materials in the Revere mattress include 3" of 4 lb memory foam (which is a medium quality/density memory foam) and the support layer is 9" of 1.5 lb polyfoam which is a lower quality/density material than I would be comfortable with in a mattress in this budget range (see the foam quality/density guidelines here ). It also doesn't compare well to the Tempurpedic Rhapsody Breeze they are comparing it to which uses much higher quality materials. While it may be a better than average choice compared to some of the mainstream manufacturers ... based on the criteria that would be important to most of the forum members here there would certainly be better quality/value online options available to you in this budget range that also have a better exchange/return policy that won't cost nearly as much for return shipping if the mattress doesn't work out as well as you hoped for and you need to return the mattress.

Phoenix
19 May 2015 07:58
  • billynath1988
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Hello everyone,

Well about a week or so ago my fiance and I found out we were moving into a new apartment and made the decision that one thing we wanted to upgrade during our move was our bed. As I have gotten older I have found that researching and buying the right thing the first time usually saves a ton of money and headache in the long run. Little did I know, that mattresses were more complicated than buying anything i've ever purchased before lol.
I have spent the last few days reading and researching threads and stickies on here and everywhere only to be spun in circles and end up having know idea what the right choice is. Just when I think i've found the perfect mattress I read something convincing that says otherwise. usually from here. (amerisleep, dynasty, amazon stuff) I am hoping to provide some of you pro's here with my information of what we are looking for and you can point me in the right direction of a good manufacturer or even a specific mattress. After reading some threads with similar questions ill try to provide any information that can help you help me. anything i'm missing just ask.

Current mattress: 7 year old, Queen size, sealy Blue lake 8" memory foam.
www.themattressfactoryinc.com/pd.189.0/85/sealy-comfort-series-memory-foam-8-blue-lake-legacy/
- The foam has formed weak spots and heats up quickly over time, my fix for this has been a mattress topper which actually has made the bed quite comfortable. and Helped with the hot sleeping issue some.
The mattress topper is a 3" thick 4lb density from amazon.
www.amazon.com/Density-Elastic-Memory-Foam-Mattress/dp/B004AR5X92/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1432046958&sr=8-2&keywords=4lb+density+memory+foam+topper

I live in long island, NY
I am 5'10 185lbs, have slipped discs in my neck and back and a bad left shoulder. ( I sleep either on my back stomach or right side but I usually end up tossing around to find a comfortable spot. I also find that I get hot when I sleep. so a mattress that helps with that is important to me as well.

My fiance is 5'4 110lbs and really only suggested we get a slightly denser feeling mattress then what we have now with the memory foam mattress topper.

We are looking to upgrade to a king size, slightly denser feeling or more supportive then the mattress topper that we currently have but not to firm. Something that will minimize any hot sleeping issue. Something that minimizes motion transfer and that wont break the bank. As a point of reference, Up until I found this website we were pretty sure we were going to buy the Amerisleep Revere kingsize bed.

Thanks in advance!
Billy
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