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23 Feb 2014 18:09
  • Kozy88
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Hey All,

A few hours ago, i was very close to pulling the trigger on Amerisleep's "Revere" bed because of the sale:

www.amerisleep.com/revere-bed.html#pr-header-MM__REVERE

After reviewing some posts here and specifically by Phoenix, it seems that Amerisleep quality is a bit below some of the others i could aim for in a similar price range.

I'm currently leaning towards something from Select Foam - I'm a bit torn between the Regalis and the Cirrus Luxe. I had a slipped disc in my lower back years ago, and i'm not entirely sure which would be better for me. I'm worried there's not quite enough support with the Luxe? however, i enjoy that soft feel. Any back pain sufferers here with some insight?

Thanks All!
20 Feb 2014 10:07
  • phoenix
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Hi nms,

Have you read the tutorial post ? There is a link there to a list there of some of the better online memory foam sources that I'm aware of and I would also make sure you've evaluated each one based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you including the specifics of their return policies.

You can read a little more about Amerisleep in post #4 here and post #4 here and its sister companies in post #2 here . A forum search on Amerisleep will bring up more information as well. It may also be worthwhile reading some of the issues they have had with issuing refunds in their BBB complaints . As you can see they are more of a marketing company than "mattress people" and while they are probably better "value" than some of the more mainstream options ... they are probably the first one I would consider eliminating from your list.

I would also be very cautious with using online reviews to make a mattress choice (see post #13 here ).

The next thing I would do is make sure you have had a more detailed phone conversation with the others so that you are confident that the mattresses you are considering would be a good match for you in terms of PPP. This is the most important part of the "value" of a mattress purchase regardless of cost or even quality because if a mattress isn't suitable for your body type, sleeping positions, and personal preferences then no matter what its price it would have little value to you if you can't sleep on it. I would make sure that you are confident that any mattress you are considering has a good chance of working well for you and this would include talking with them about any local mattresses that may be similar to the one you are considering and then testing it in person to get a better sense of the feel and performance of the one you are considering. Your local testing can be a very important part of your conversation with each one, deciding on the choice that may be best for you, and the success of an online mattress purchase in general.

Next I would make sure you are completely familiar with the return or exchange policies of each of them. Even with your "best judgement" and the "best efforts" of an online retailer or manufacturer ... there is always a chance with an online purchase that you haven't tested in person that your actual sleeping experience will indicate the need to return or exchange the mattress because it isn't working as well for you as you'd hoped. One of the most important parts of your personal value equation is replacing hindsight with foresight and making sure you are comfortable with the return or exchange options you have after a purchase including knowing the procedure and any costs involved so you can factor this into your choice.

All of the remaining choices you have use good quality materials and there are no obvious weak links but I would also take your weight into account both to make sure that you are making a suitable choice and if you are in a higher weight range I would consider reducing the use of 4 lb memory foam for durability reasons.

Once you have taken all of this and any of the other parts of your personal value equation into account then you would be down to your finalists and be making comparisons between "good and good" and when there are no clear "winners" then post #2 here can help you make your final choice between them.

Phoenix
20 Feb 2014 00:35
  • nms
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Mattressunderground has been very helpful in my mattress research and I have come down to the following list. Please help me decide

1) Amerisleep (Americana Bed 10 inches) : www.amerisleep.com/americana-bed.html
Memory foam layer: 3 inches, 4.5-lb density, 12 ILD
Support layer: 7 inches, 2.0-lb density, 35 ILD
Price ~$750

2) Novosbed Classic 10 inches bed: www.novosbed.com/product/classic-memory-foam-mattress/
Memory foam layer: 4 inches, 5.2-lb density
Support Layer: 6 inches, 2 lb density
Price: $879

3) My Luxury Mattress (9 inches serene) : www.myluxurymattress.com/coolmax-memory-foam-mattress.html
3" Preserve Memory Foam, 4.0lb density, IFD 12
6" Preserve Base Foam, 2.4lb density, IFD 36
Price: $600

4) FoamOrder (Queen 10 inch mattress)
Memory foam layer: 3 inches of 5.3 lbs density
Support Layer: 6", 2.4 lb density
Price: $808

Both Amerisleep and Novosbed have lots of positive reseller ratings. I could not find many online reviews for FoamOrder and MyLuxuryMattress which seem to be better value and is making me nervous purchasing them. Please help me select the best value mattress.

Info: I am 5'8" and weight ~180 lb's.
14 Feb 2014 19:44
  • adriatic
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Actually, I'm adding to my previous message. I just chatted online with salesman Jacob at Brooklyn Bedding, and I see they ONLY sell the 3 inch latex toppers, and even with ALL the quilting and comfort layers on my mattress, the salesman still thinks the 3 inch topper is appropriate (in a 24 is what he recommends). He doesn't think it would cause problems with alignment, but it seems to me from reading all of your posts, that a 3 inch topper with be too thick and far away from the support of my mattress and would give me a back ache (esp. since I weigh 125 pounds).

Maybe best to go with Sleep LIke a Bear as they have choices of thicknesses. He thinks a one inch topper would hardly make any difference at all. He also said Brooklyn Bedding used to sell 2 inch toppers but the three inch toppers outsold them by leaps and bounds (thousands) so they stopped selling the 2 inch versions. Hmmmm. What I worry about with Sleep Like a Bear is that it sounds like you have to find your own packing materials and vacuum pack it and box it if you have to send it back. I had to do that with an Amerisleep mattress and it was a nightmare and cost me a fortune. So I like exchange policies where they send you the packing stuff or do the packing for you.
12 Jan 2014 14:55
  • phoenix
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Hi Keepcooler,

Amerisleep Liberty Bed - uses BioH plant based soy foam that Cargill says sleeps cooler (but the company has an F rating from BBB:()
Bed In A Box - Tranquility Gel - their "coolest sleeping mattress"


You can read a little more about Amerisleep and Bedinabox in the links in post #2 here . You can also read more about so called "plant based foams" in post #2 here . The plant based foams are more about marketing than any difference in quality although they can be a "small step" in the use of more sustainable materials.

Outlast Mattress Pad - space age temperature controlling material


Outlast is a phase change material which means that it can regulate temperature to some degree in both directions (cooling and warming). Like other materials or fabrics (such as coolmax fabrics, fabrics that use natural fibers such as cotton, viscose/rayon fabrics, or wool in a quilting layer as just a few examples), it can make a difference in sleeping temperature but how hot you sleep on any specific mattress will depend on all the other factors that in combination with each other can affect sleeping temperature ... not just one. Some people will tell you that a mattress that used Outlast (either in the cover or the top foam materials) worked very well for them in terms of temperature regulation while others may tell you that they still slept warm on a mattress that also used Outlast but it would certainly be one factor that in combination with others can make a difference in regulating sleeping temperature and help offset the tendency of memory foam to sleep warmer than other materials.

Phoenix
12 Jan 2014 11:07
  • KeepCooler
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Thank you for your tips. Please keep suggesting things you've tried and either know work or don't work.

The Cloud Supreme was too soft for me. Hurt my back.

The FeelCooler line of mattress pads don't do anything.

What I am looking at trying next are one of these :

Outlast Mattress Pad - space age temperature controlling material
Amerisleep Liberty Bed - uses BioH plant based soy foam that Cargill says sleeps cooler (but the company has an F rating from BBB:()
Bed In A Box - Tranquility Gel - their "coolest sleeping mattress"

Any experiences with these would love to hear.
11 Jan 2014 23:30
  • KeepCooler
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Hi, I like the feel of memory foam, but I always wake up hot in the middle of the night. I don't toss and turn, I just wake up. Please help me find a cool memory foam mattress.

As far as firmness, I really don't care. I just want to sleep good, don't care if it "feels nice" when I am still conscious laying on it for 5 minutes. A long time ago I had a plain tempur pedic, then had a tempur pedic cloud supreme which was way softer, nice cuz my arm didn't go to sleep sleeping on my side, but I think it was so soft it hurt my lower back.

Now I have a "Sleep Innovations 12" SureTemp" and the first time I laid on it I thought it was hard as a rock, but it actually is comfortable. Way better than a super soft innerspring I bought and gave away shortly after. The Sleep Innovations mattress is fine for my back, but like i said, I wake up from it feeling hot.

Please help me find the ultimate mattress for me so that I can sleep better and not die of exhaustion.

Some article said "amerisleep". Another website said "bed in a box". I am really desperate for a good night's sleep. I have been through 5 mattresses in the past year. Tempurpedic original, Tempurpedic, Cloud Supreme, Latex, Innerspring and now Sleep Innovations. Trying out mattresses is really expensive. :( I don't care though, I will keep looking and don't care if I can't save for retirement as long as I can sleep.
28 Dec 2013 14:51
  • phoenix
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Hi Bjc1988,

The first place I would start your research is the tutorial post here which has all the basic information, steps, and guidelines you will need to make the best possible choices.

When it comes to Amerisleep I think my recent reply and the links in post #2 here would apply here as well. You have many good memory foam options available to you and while Amerisleep may be better value than many mainstream choices ... they wouldn't be my first choice with some of the options you have available to you.

There may also be some good options available to you locally and if you let me know your city or zip code I'd be happy to let you know of any I'm aware of in your area.

I thought it should be on a platform but the sales people were insistent that I use the box spring. And it is sagging and causes low back pain.


A memory foam mattress usually does best on a rigid non flexing support surface which could be a platform bed or foundation with either a solid surface, slats, or a wire grid (my preference is slats so that there is even solid support and some airflow underneath the mattress). If you currently have a box spring that flexes or that is sagging I have no idea why they would suggest you continue to use it. That seems very odd to me.

Phoenix
28 Dec 2013 11:08
  • Bjc1988
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I am interested in an amerisleep revere mattress but there is no brick and mortar stores to test one. They have a 90 test period but I'd rather test one before getting rid of my current mattress. I plan on building a wood platform to hold the mattress I currently have an englander memory foam on a box spring. I thought it should be on a platform but the sales people were insistent that I use the box spring. And it is sagging and causes low back pain. Does anyone have any experience with amerisleep? Specifically revere mattresses
26 Dec 2013 21:09
  • phoenix
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Hi Moc cock 8,

The first place I would start your research is the tutorial post here which has all the basic information, steps, and guidelines you will need to make the best possible choices.

You can read more of my thoughts about BedinaBox in post #2 here . I would be very cautious with any memory foam mattress that didn't meet the minimum guidelines listed in post #10 here .

You can also see some of my thoughts about Amerisleep at the end of both post #4 here and post #4 here and a forum search on Amerisleep (you can just click this) will bring up more information about them as well.

There is also a link to a list of some of the better online memory foam retailers and manufacturers I'm aware of in the tutorial post. Neither one you mentioned would be among my first choices.

Some of the better options and possibilities I'm aware of in the Charleston, SC area are listed in post #2 here .

Phoenix
26 Dec 2013 20:16
  • Moc cock 8
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Wife & I are looking for a new mattress. We are both side sleepers. We were looking at bed in a box & amerisleep liberty. We live in charleston sc and haven't been to any stores to test. I have some lower back & shoulder pain from playing baseball in college. We are looking for a king size that will last and good value. Thanks for any help.
02 Dec 2013 12:53
  • phoenix
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Hi Oneiros,

The tutorial post here and the links inside it will answer most of your questions and has the basic information, steps, and guidelines I would suggest to make the best possible choice.

Outside of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences), knowing the construction and the quality of the materials inside a mattress are one of the most important parts of a mattress purchase because without knowing the quality of all the layers there is no way to identify any weak links in a mattress in terms of durability or make meaningful comparisons with other mattresses.

As you will see ... I would generally suggest avoiding any of the major brands because they tend to use lower quality materials in every budget range than many other options made by smaller manufacturers across the country and they often don't disclose the specific information you would need to make an informed buying decision.

You can read a little more about the Sealy Optimum line (including the Radiance) in post #48 here . The Radiance has a 6" 1.5 lb density polyfoam core (not memory foam) and then 4" of 4 lb memory foam in the comfort layers.

Amerisleep and the Revere mattress in particular. They say that their plant-based memory foams emit far less VOC's and that their mattresses sleep cooler. However, I am skeptical of them because they seem to run a crazy deal on their mattresses every day.


You are wise to be skeptical about marketing information that implies that a mattresses uses a "special" material that is unique to them. You can see some of my thoughts about Amerisleep at the end of both post #4 here and post #4 here and a forum search on Amerisleep (you can just click this) will bring up more information about them as well. There is also a link to a list of some of the better online memory foam retailers and manufacturers I'm aware of in the tutorial post.

I took a look at Sleep Number as well because their air mattresses seem to be good for your back and motion transfer but I have heard some negative things about their parts breaking down.


You can see my thoughts about airbeds in general in this article .

Intellibed caught my eye as well because the editor of mattressreviewguru.com has listed it as his number one mattress.


A forum search on Intellibed (you can just click this) will bring up more information about them as well.

I apologize for the long post but I hope that helps you narrow down the mattress of our dreams. By the way, we live in Orlando, FL if you know of any great retailers close by that may or may not be the chain retailers.


If you do some initial reading and then follow the steps in the tutorial post one by one you will end up with a good quality/value choice. When you get to step 3 ... the better options and possibilities I'm aware of in the Orlando area are listed in post #2 here .

Phoenix
02 Dec 2013 11:05
  • Oneiros
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Hi,

I am new to this site and am looking for some advice. I have done numerous research on mattresses and I am struggling on coming on a decision on "the one." I have already purchased a Sealy Optimum Radiance on Black Friday. We (my girlfriend and I) got a great deal and negotiated the price down even further. However, I am starting to second-guess my decision as I have educated myself even more on mattresses since the purchase and have read on this site that Sealy may no be the best mattress manufacturer to buy from. I plan on letting the mattress arrive within the week and using the sleep trial period to test it out. My girlfriend and I like a firmer feel mattress and this Optimum seems to be on the firmer side. It has a 6" memory core, a 2" memory foam, and a 2" gel memory foam with Outlast that appears to make the mattress cooler (although I have read that the cooling effect may only last 15 minutes). I sleep "hot" and a cooling mattress is important for me. However, I understand that memory foams get hot and may not be the best type of cooling mattress. Also, my girlfriend has a very sensitive sense of smell and memory foams tend to have a bad smell. I also consider myself a "green" person for the most part, so the off-gassing that tends to come with memory foams is bothersome not me, not to mention what it may do to our health. I tend to move around in bed a lot and shake my leg around so having less motion transfer is a big deal to my girlfriend. But we both feel that we still don't want to feel "trapped" in our mattress so getting up out of bed easily is important as well. Any mattress may feel like an upgrade to us because we have an old innerspring mattress (possibly close to 10 years) that is sagging, but I still would like to make the "right" purchase since we will be sleeping on this next mattress for the next decade hopefully. Also worth mentioning is that I am a stomach sleeper for the most part (though I tend to change positions) and my girlfriend is a side sleeper. Mattresses and brands that have piqued my interest include:

Amerisleep and the Revere mattress in particular. They say that their plant-based memory foams emit far less VOC's and that their mattresses sleep cooler. However, I am skeptical of them because they seem to run a crazy deal on their mattresses every day.

The Tempurpedic Rhapsody Breeze caught my eye but their mattresses seem to be way overpriced and the heating problems persist with them. I don't mind spending a lot of money on a mattress, however, if it is going to last awhile.

I took a look at Sleep Number as well because their air mattresses seem to be good for your back and motion transfer but I have heard some negative things about their parts breaking down.

I have read about Essentia Mattresses because of their Natural Latex Memory Foam, but I have a feeling that they are also just very clever marketers and may not be selling the best product.

Intellibed caught my eye as well because the editor of mattressreviewguru.com has listed it as his number one mattress.

I also like BeautyRest Recharge and Saatva mattresses for innerspring. Saatva in particular is listed on mattressreviewguru.com as it's number two mattress and Sean Fry on sleeplikeahog.com has it listed as his number one mattress.

However, I'm not sure who I can really trust. That is how I ended up on here. What is important for my girlfriend and I is to get the very best mattress for us. That mattress should: be medium-firm (more firm better than more plush); last us a long time (hopefully 10 years); be comfortable and supportive for our backs and necks; not smell nor emit any harmful chemicals; stay as cool as possible; reduce motion transfer as much as possible without making us feel "trapped" in our mattress (breathable); and hopefully not cost us an arm and a leg, but like I previously stated, I will pay more to get more (but value is the key). Good customer service from the retailer and a sleep trial period are important as well (especially if buying on-line).

I apologize for the long post but I hope that helps you narrow down the mattress of our dreams. By the way, we live in Orlando, FL if you know of any great retailers close by that may or may not be the chain retailers.

Thanks is advance,

Oneiros
24 Nov 2013 20:08
  • adriatic
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Phoenix (or anyone else as well),

Does anyone have more information on the Charles P. Rogers beds or know of anyone who has bought one and what they think? I"m looking at their priciest bed which supposedly has Talalay latex and some memory and gel foam. It's called the Estate 9000 Luxury Plush. However, I don't live near a store so would have to order it untried, which also means I can't return it if i'm not satisfied. I was also looking at the innerspring and hybrid innersprings for a guest room, but again, would like more info on the quality. I also read about the company on The Old Bed Guy and had previously seen ads for theis beds in "Decor" an interior decorating magazine that seems to advertise high end stuff. Any thoughts would be appreciated. I'm in Burlington VT, so don't have much opportunity to actually try beds in person. I already bought a couple Sertas that I'm not happy with (I-Series Applause firm and Celebration Firm). Also bought an Amerisleep (like a tempurpedic) that I will be sending back with much trouble). Thanks.
28 Aug 2013 04:37
  • Justso
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I really like the feel and support of the Tempurpedic Cloud Supreme, but after reading many of the articles on here it seems like there are many better options available. I like the price of the Amerisleep Liberty bed but it seems like there are still better options. I am willing to pay more for the right bed, I am just having a hard time discerning which one that is.

Anyone on here have any luck with similar bed or experience that could pass along some comparable beds to look at or reviews on these beds?

Thank you in advance for any help or suggestions in this matter.


jonnymatrix,

Yes. I would highly, highly recommend you look at Select Foam's Cirrus Supreme ES-11. I was in the same boat you are in and purchased the Cirrus Luxe ES-13, which is a "rival" (I say a superior) to the Tempur Pedic Cloud Luxe. I cannot say enough good about this mattress or about Select Foam's customer service.

This mattress should definitely be at the top of your short list if you are dead-set on wanting a Tempur Pedic Cloud Supreme.

I have an ongoing review of my purchase if you're interested in hearing about Select Foam and my experience, wishing to find something as close as possible to the Cloud Luxe.
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