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12 Jun 2022 04:51
  • Sweet Dreams
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Not sure what lead you to believe that stacking toppers is not commonly recommended, but many sellers of all latex mattresses provide exactly that. TMU Trusted members Arizona Premium Mattress, Sleep EZ, Latex Mattress Factory, Flexus, and others offer full latex mattress models which are available in custom configurations, and are constructed of 3 to 4 layers of latex toppers enclosed within a mattress encasement. Such builds offer great flexibility and durability since layer ordering can be optimized as your needs may change and individual layers can be replaced as required over time.
10 Jun 2022 19:56
  • Basilio
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Hi rhemy1,

Do you have a suggestion for a full latex mattress no coils. I weigh 226 lbs and tend to sleep on ever side. I’m 5’ 11”

It is difficult to make any suggestions with certainty, as again a mattresses comfort and ability to provide support while you sleep is unique to you having a unique body type and needs and preferences. Thanks for providing additional stats; I will say that at a higher BMI, while you’ll need to put a special emphasis on more durable materials and constructions and probably on mattresses that are thicker have firmer comfort and support layers (firmer materials feel softer for heavier people and firmer support layers are usually important to for good alignment for higher weights). I would especially make sure you read Post #2 here that has some generic guidelines for different body types and sleeping positions and post #14 here has more about the benefits of thicker comfort layers and thicker mattresses. You will likely want to look at firmer-feeling mattresses to provide enough support and prevent any misalignment in your spine or joint pain, but not that firm that it created pressure points since you are a side sleeper. This is to say that I would definitely run all of this summarized info by the retailer/manufacturer themselves as they are the best to know how their mattresses and designs work with different body types, weights, and sleeping positions. Which is why it is so important to speak with someone knowledgeable rather than be given a “script response” from a sales rep that has little to no experience with how the mattress works.

Since it sounds like you are leaning towards an all latex mattress, some options from TMU trusted members list would include a DIY mattress construction under the direct supervision of a trusted member such as DIY Mattress , who allow you to create your own customized mattress, they have 2” and 3” layers of both Dunlop(this a denser, firmer latex with a ‘bouncy’ feel) and Talalay (A softer more responsive feel in case you like that better) of various firmness levels, allowing you to use for example, a Talalay layer at the top for comfort, with Dunlop below to provide support. By providing them your stats and sleeping preferences they can create a layered latex mattress which you can place on a base like a platform or adjustable bed frame.

Member Latex Mattress Factory specializes in mattresses for plus sized people and are extremely skilled in guiding consumers to good fit mattress on the DIY construction model, I would go for something with 10” of more of firmer natural latex mattress. (On the call I would make sure to mention the base model construction that you tested in the shop and liked) so that they get a better sense I’d start with these two and then see what other similar options you can find from other members that best fit your personal criteria (price, returns, warranties, and all else that is important to you) such as Flexus Comfort and CozyPure , who likewise offer all-latex mattresses. I have included a list below of all the trusted members who offer all-latex mattresses:
Arizona Premium Arizona SleepEZ Bay Bed & Mattress BioSleep Concept CBH Wood Furniture CozyPure DIY Mattress DIY Natural Bedding Dormio Organic Beds Flexus Comfort Mattress FloBeds Foam Sweet Foam Fox Mattress Gardner Mattress GhostBed Latex Mattress Factory Luma Sleep Mattress Makers Mattress To Go MFC My Green Mattress Nest Bedding Oklahoma Mattress Company Richmond Bedding Shepherd’s Dream Shovlin Mattress Factory Sleeping Organic Spindle Mattress Texas Mattress Makers The Beloit Mattress Company The Mattress Factory
It’s good to see that you started by eliminating the worst contenders then deciding the basics – the feel and firmness you want in a mattress, what materials or options you do or don’t want (like ‘no coils’) You are on the good track. Let us know how far you go and we’ll be happy to make additional comments on any of the mattresses you are considering.

Basilio
08 Jun 2022 19:32
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Hi az333, and welcome to The Mattress Underground :)
Glad to have you here.

My partner and I are looking for a new king sized mattress and could really use some help. We are both tall (5’11 and 6’3) and both around 210-220 pounds. We’ve been doing some research, but are having a hard time finding the best option for our needs. Our main needs are:
1. excellent edge support (we both tend to sleep close to the edge and sit on it often)
2. minimal heat retention (we both sleep very hot and often get sweaty/wake up from being hot)
3. pretty firm (like a 7-8 on a scale of 1-10).
As far as sleep styles, we both toss and turn in the night so it’s important that we’re able to move around easily

A new mattress is an important purchase, and its’ good you are taking the time to take a look at your options since this is your first mattress. Any mattress is unique to the sleepers who sleep on it, and is based on your stats (height, BMI, sleeping position(s) and any underlying health conditions, if any), and your PPP(Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences). Thanks for providing you and your partners’ stats – you don’t say if you have any health issues or soreness on waking, but that you did not like the feel of the memory foam mattress you tried in a store.

First you may want to take a look at the mattress shopping tutorial to get an idea of what your options are, as well as the mattress specifications you need to know , and also the mattress durability guidelines to see how different components hold up over time. Both a hybrid latex and an all latex bed in firm or medium firm won’t present durability issues given your higher BMIs. So that’s a good direction thus far in terms of durability.

We’ve recently tried a memory foam mattress in store and really didn’t like it because of the restricted mobility and feeling like we were sinking into the mattress. I also prefer my mattress to have a bit of bounce otherwise it just feels dead to me.
(Side note: we’re both heavy sleepers so the whole motion isolation thing is not really a priority for us)Other than that, I primarily sleep on my stomach/side and he primarily sleeps on his back/side but we both prefer firm mattresses. We like feeling like we’re on top of the mattress rather than “in” it if that makes sense.

You have already identified some materials that you likely want to avoid, like memory foam, and as you are not concerned with motion isolation, you can likely not be concerned with a zoned latex. Since you both sleep very ‘hot’ you will want to look for mattresses that have a breathable layer closest to the sleepers – like cotton, wool, or coconut coir – to keep perspiration from gathering around your bodies while you sleep. As you both prefer firm mattresses, a firmer ILD latex mattress, or a hybrid with quality high density foam, along with a pocketed coil innerspring base with edge support, since you spend a lot of time on your bed besides sleeping, and you both prioritize firmness, this may be worth looking at.

We were able to try the saatva zenhaven in store and we really liked the firm side of it, but we felt like we should continue searching to see if there’s anything better for the money (it was $3k for the zenhaven). I was considering a custom latex mattress from flexus, but I’m concerned that an all latex mattress will not have good enough edge support. Currently, I’m mainly considering a latex/coil hybrid but can’t decide which brand to go for. I see that flexus, AP, sleepez and saatva have similar options but don’t know which would be best for our needs. I’m also willing to consider any other brand as long as it’under $3k. Do you have any recommendations? Would a latex/coil hybrid even be the best choice?
I also would like to note that when I’m at home, I spend a majority of the time on my bed (both sitting and laying down). I sometimes even do meetings from my bed, so it’s not just for sleep.

I took a look at the Saatva ZenHaven, which is a 10” flippable Latex mattress with a ‘plush’ side and a ‘luxury firm’ side. Latex is naturally more breathable than any other type of foams layers in between the latex layers but even though they do not list the thicknesses or (ILD – Indentation Layer Deflection, the higher the ILD the firmer the latex) so I’d make sure to get the comfort level to match up with your needs and that is approximating Saatva you tried. I am glad you both prefer firmer sleeping surfaces as those would be most appropriate for your stomach sleeping and your partner’s back sleeping. Additionally, firmer sleeping surfaces would sleep cooler as you won’t sink in too much and trap the body heat thus creating a hotter and more humid sleeping microclimate. Firmer surfaces will also help with sitting on the edge or mattress roll off. . You may want to look at these few readings about Sleeping style , and Higher BMI people . There is also more about the many variables that can affect the sleeping temperature of a mattress or sleeping system in post #2 that can help you choose the types of materials and components that are most likely to keep you in a comfortable temperature range., for more relevant details, but all in all you are on the right track with everything. Saatva uses a proprietary 100% natural Dunlop latex which is a little firmer than Talalay latex in the same ILD. So that’s a good choice of a material as well. Latex is a little lower on the scale when it comes to motion isolation than memory foam but that is not important criteria for you.

For a 3k budget – you should be able to find a lot of offerings under that price. The other manufacturers you mention – Flexus Comfort , Arizona Premium and Arizona SleepEZ Factory are all trusted members of the site, and all are transparent regarding the materials and construction of their mattresses but above all they have great customer support and help to find the best comfort option that would be a perfect fit for you both sleepers. . If you can provide them with a little information, and the concerns stated above, they will strive to match you with a mattress that suits you both and will last a long time. In the end, though, keep in mind that only you and your partner can determine what works for you. To address the edge support issue, you may want to read this Phoenix post here .

Because of its point elasticity though ... those who sit on the very outside edge a lot (instead of sitting with your body weight more into the middle of the mattress) or who sleep with more concentrated weight on the outside few inches of their mattress may find themselves sinking down more than they like even though this isn't normally an issue when sleeping on the mattress. For those who prefer a firmer edge then there are a few latex mattresses that use what's called a "racetrack" perimeter where the outer few inches of the latex support core is surrounded with a firmer foam. Unfortunately, most of the time this firmer foam is a much less durable (but firmer) polyfoam which will soften and break down sooner than the latex and what starts out as a positive can become a negative over time (depending on the density of the polyfoam this can sometimes be a fairly short time). Because of this it would be much better to use firmer latex in those cases where perimeter support is preferred rather than less durable polyfoam but this is an uncommon construction for latex.
In most cases though ... a latex support layer that is firm enough relative to body weight of the person sleeping on the mattress will be fine for most people.

I am not sure if any of our trusted members provide edge support on their products, but if you are set on that, you can call any of them and inquire...for example, members DIY Mattress and also Latex Mattress Factory botth are experienced with providing custom latex mattresses, so they may be a good place to start.

I wish you success on your mattress journey!

Basilio
06 Jun 2022 17:44
  • az333
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Hi, this is my first time posting here (and first time buying a mattress) so I apologize if this out of place.

My partner and I are looking for a new king sized mattress and could really use some help. We are both tall (5’11 and 6’3) and both around 210-220 pounds. We’ve been doing some research, but are having a hard time finding the best option for our needs.

Our main needs are:
1. excellent edge support (we both tend to sleep close to the edge and sit on it often)
2. minimal heat retention (we both sleep very hot and often get sweaty/wake up from being hot)
3. pretty firm (like a 7-8 on a scale of 1-10).

As far as sleep styles, we both toss and turn in the night so it’s important that we’re able to move around easily. We’ve recently tried a memory foam mattress in store and really didn’t like it because of the restricted mobility and feeling like we were sinking into the mattress. I also prefer my mattress to have a bit of bounce otherwise it just feels dead to me (Side note: we’re both heavy sleepers so the whole motion isolation thing is not really a priority for us) Other than that, I primarily sleep on my stomach/side and he primarily sleeps on his back/side but we both prefer firm mattresses. We like feeling like we’re on top of the mattress rather than “in” it if that makes sense.

We were able to try the saatva zenhaven in store and we really liked the firm side of it, but we felt like we should continue searching to see if there’s anything better for the money (it was $3k for the zenhaven). I was considering a custom latex mattress from flexus, but I’m concerned that an all latex mattress will not have good enough edge support. Currently, I’m mainly considering a latex/coil hybrid but can’t decide which brand to go for. I see that flexus, AP, sleepez and saatva have similar options but don’t know which would be best for our needs. I’m also willing to consider any other brand as long as it’s under $3k. Do you have any recommendations? Would a latex/coil hybrid even be the best choice?

I also would like to note that when I’m at home, I spend a majority of the time on my bed (both sitting and laying down). I sometimes even do meetings from my bed, so it’s not just for sleep.
13 May 2022 14:04
  • Bort Datsun
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Hi NikkTMU,

Thank you for your response! I tried out the Nest and thought it was nice — about the right firmness, great pressure relief. But I'd really like to avoid polyfoam because of concern about VOCs, and unfortunately it's quilted rather thickly into the top layer. I'm now thinking I'd like to try a mattress that doesn't have such a thick top layer above the latex, and add a wool topper for surface softness.

Unfortunately, I don't have enough time within the return window to try a topper on the Charles P Rogers bed. It's already so thick that I've been resisting this option, and now this is what I get for waffling.

At this point I'm considering just trying the Avocado or perhaps the MyGreenMattress Natural Escape, which should be somewhat less firm than the Avocado (it has 3" of 24 ILD Dunlop, vs 2"). Am I correct in thinking that a 1 or 2-inch layer of soft Talalay over 2 or 3 inches of 24 ILD Dunlop could be comfortable? Is there reason to think that one of these options would be better than the other, if I'm anticipating needing to add a topper?

I'm also considering the Flexus QuadraFlex, which would give me the benefit of split Talalay layers that can be exchanged for a different firmness.
10 May 2022 12:35
  • BillyIdol
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Look into something adjustable.

1-Flobed Vzone...infinitely flexible. Latex. Im not a fan of latex, but don't let that stop you.
2-Flexus Comfort 13 inch mattress. Latex with 4 ...3 inch layers of latex that can be modified. You get 1 core exchange. King size? $1984. I actually went there to lay on the beds. All latex for you is definitely the was to go over the latex hybrid. All latex gives you 4 layers to manipulate.
3-Arizona Premium...latex. Call them up to see what they say.

I like VZone for you because you have a the top layer Vzone that is adjustable which is perfect for you. I think the Tempurpedic Pro Adapt Medium might work well for you. I thought the Pro Adapt Medium was so sumptuous and luxurious. Its not for me because I weigh 225 and you weight 165. I sank too far into it. I guess you can try Costco beds because of the return policy...all it costs you is time.

Dark horse entry would be Intellibed Matrix Supreme (soft). They have a whole series of 5 Matrix beds. The "Supreme" surname changes....for example Matrix Deluxe. It was hard to decide between the 5 Matrix Intellibed beds. But the sales guy at Mathis Brothers (Ontario, California) stated that the Intellibed Matrix Supreme was the bestseller in the Intellibed line. Supposedly, Intellibed can be firm and soft at the same time. Purple beds are a derivative of Intellibed. Some here hate Purple Bed.....but only your opinion matters.

I was not sold on the Intellibed buckling gel matrix and felt that Tempurpedic was better for me.

When you try your mattresses, try to test them all in the same day. Go back several times to a store even if you get irritating.

I will extrapolate to make an educated guess....go with Flobeds Vzone or Tempurpedic....but do what you want and try them all. Ignore all reviews and opinions including mine.


John
10 May 2022 11:00
  • BillyIdol
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Look up my thread "Dont be cheap with mattresses".

Im as cheap and frugal as they come, but I don't skimp on beds. Lets say your ideal mattress is $4300. and you go cheap and get a less than ideal mattress for $3500. Now you have a back ache. Now you have to go out and buy the $4300 mattress too. Now you have spent $7800. It is better to go with ideal mattress right off the bat and spend $4300. In the long run, $4300 is cheap. Don't have the money? Get a loan or do DoorDash.

I did go over to Flexus Comfort and their latex mattresses are amazing. They can do split king. I think split king was $1984 and they might even have Memorial Day sale.

Flobed Vzone had Cinco De Mayo sale on King Vzone. Normally $4200, but $800 of with sale brings it to $3400. What is there to think about? You are only out $200 (shipping) and you have unlimited latex core switch outs. I guess Arizona Premium is good too from what I have read. Im not a fan of latex personally, but it works for others.

The Purple beds are a poor man's version of the Intellibeds. Purple 4 did not work for me, but you should check it out for yourself. The buckling gel columns seems great for side sleepers. Recommendation ? Purple Hybrid 3 or Purple Hybrid (2). Im not a fan of technology anymore, but you might like it. Just because I (or anyone else) like it or hate it...ignore that. Try it yourself. Im a back sleeper.

I love Tempurpedic myself. Pro Adapt Medium, Pro Adapt Medium Hybrid, Pro Adapt Soft, Luxe Adapt Soft. I like Pro Adapt Firm and Luxe Adapt Firm myself. Some here say Tempurpedic is terrible....that may or may not be true. Try it yourself. My opinion? I feel that Tempurpedic is absolutely heavenly and so different from anything else that I have felt. The absolute best in memory foam. I visited a few mattress stores and the only brand that was carried in every store was Tempurpedic. There must be a reason. I know that consensus is often wrong, but is it wrong every time? Im a huge Tempurpedic fan.


Let me know what you get.

John
09 May 2022 23:20
  • phoenix
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Hi karia,

Welcome to our Mattress Forum! :)

I am a 60 yrs old, 106 lb female with sciatica and hip pain. I sleep on a Stearns & Foster mattress which is about ten years old but still in a good condition. I need a topper to soften the surface. I was thinking of a 1" soft talalay latex topper. I checked Amazon offerings but they are mostly dunlap. I've read that talalay provides more cushioning.

The good news is that you can always s make a mattress that feels too firm a little softer by adding a topper. The choice of material is good too as both Talalay and Dunlop latex have great pressure-relieving qualities but also provide additional secondary support for the recessed areas of your body. Latex has an unusual combination of surface softness and deeper firmness/support that comes from its elasticity, and can certainly be an effective way to add some additional "cushioning". Toppers are designed to add comfort to a mattress that does not sag but is too firm and needs some pressure relief qualities. When you use a topper over a mattress the topper will compress and in combination with the layers below it will take on the shape of your body profile. Softer toppers will compress more than firmer toppers. This "cradle" formed by the upper layers re-distributes weight away from the pressure points of the body.

Sometimes choosing a topper can be as difficult as choosing a mattress as it takes a bit of trial and error to dial in and find the exact combo of support/comfort best for your needs. If you need just a bit of “cushioning”, then 1” of Talalay might be all thickness you’d need, but before you decide on how much thickness and what comfort level do you need (soft, medium soft, medium, firm etc.) you’d take into account a few other factors to select the appropriate thickness/firmness for your needs and preferences and for mitigating your sciatica and hip pain.

You did not mention your primary sleeping position, nor your height, but if you are a side sleeper you may need a bit more thickness for your topper. There is more information about choosing a topper in post #2 here and the topper guidelines it links to, which along with a conversation with a reliable and knowledgeable supplier (that can provide you with good information about how their toppers compare to each other or to other toppers they are familiar with that are available on the market), can help.

Please I need your expertise, help me to find an online store with a good return policy.

In general, a good starting point for a good comfort layer for a side sleeper is 3" and then depending on weight, body shape, preferences, and the firmness of the support layers, to go up or down from there. Most side sleepers will fall in the range of from 2" - 4".

Toppers, like mattresses, are a comfort choice , so your preferences for components, fabrications, thickness, etc. will all factor into your selection. Here are a few important guidelines
~ If the mattress needs just a "touch to a little" extra softness or a softer "surface feel" ... then a 1" topper is usually enough.
~ If you need a little to a fair bit of extra softness and pressure relief ... then a 2" topper would be in the average range. Given that you are lighter this may prove to be a good option for you.
~ Generally Heavier weights do better with firmer and thicker toppers. Lighter weights generally do best with softer and thinner toppers.

At a quick glance I could find some of our trusted members that offer latex topers, but most of the Talalay toppers that are offered come in 2”-4” thickness. You may consider giving the manufacturers a call to see if they would be willing to slice a topper for you to fit your desired thickness, or enquire if perhaps they would have some other unlisted options that may be of help to you. Just in case you are reconsidering the topper material from Talalay to Dunlop I also listed some manufacturers who offer 1” Dunlop toppers..
DIY Natural Bedding has a latex calculator and it seems that it offers the 1" thickness option for organic Dunlop latex.
My Green Mattress has a 1’ Dunlop topper
DIY Mattress has 2” or 3” NR Talalay & Dunlop toppers
diymattress.com/product/talalay-topper/
Arizona Premium 2” or 3” Talalay & Dunlop toppers
Flexus Comfort has 2 and 3” toppers
Foam Sweet Foam Has 3” toppers both Talalay and Dunlop
Latex Mattress Factory 2” or 3” toppers
Luma Sleep has 2"& 3" Talalay and Dunlop toppers.
Naturally Nestled has both NR and Organic Dunlop toppers in 2" & 3" thickness, with a very good return policy.
Sleep EZ has 2” or 3” NR Talalay & Dunlop toppers

No matter what you end up selecting, I'd make sure to ask the company about the topper's return policy as some of the retailers/manufacturers do not accept topper returns or exchanges.

Once you get a chance to peruse the information and links mentioned above I’d make sure to check out our Trusted Members here Most have good quality toppers and I have no doubt that they will not hesitate to help you find the best combo and thickness/softness they have available that works for you. As you may have gathered, It usually takes a bit of trial and error and a bit of time spent on the mattress to ensure that you "dialed in" the best mattress/topper combination suitable for you. I’d make sure that whatever you chose has a good exchange policy as you won’t be able to take your new mattress with you to a shop to test the mattress/topper combination as they do not work in isolation.

I hope this helps and let me know if you have more questions and I’ll do my best to assist you.
Phoenix
09 May 2022 14:07
  • NikkiTMU
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Hi scrg51.

Sorry to hear your mattress wasn't able to make the move with you.

As long as it supports my back/neck, and it's not a rip-off, I think I'll be ok for at least 10 years(??).


This depends on the durability of the components. If it's super low quality and cheap, you may be expecting more like 3 - 5 years out of the mattress. You can review our recommended Durability Guidelines here.

As for the two you mentioned, the information is very limited so it's hard for me to make any sort of commentary on how suitable or durable the mattress would be (unless they've gotten back to you with more specific details, of course!).

NikkiTMU
06 May 2022 12:27
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Hello!

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this question, but hoping I can get some advice. Last year, I had the Quadra Flexus Hybrid mattress HERE -- and enjoyed it for a few months. Due to life situations, I have moved and am now looking for a new mattress, but no longer feel the need to go all out for a mattress. As long as it supports my back/neck, and it's not a rip-off, I think I'll be ok for at least 10 years(??).

I'm really not well versed in any other mattresses because of how much time I spent researching the Quadra Flexus mattress/brand, and wanted to see if anyone could point me in the right direction. These are some mattresses I've come across -- not even sure if the description on the page helps any -- and I'm waiting for customer service to get back to me on specs/brand name.... would these be potential options for someone around 5'5", 127-133 lbs, back sleeper, neck/upper back problems from poor posture (really trying not evolve into degenerative disc/slipped disc)? I think I'm also more of a medium to firm kinda gal.

`1. OPTION 1
2. OPTION 2

I apologize if this is not enough information, and hope to return with further specs soon!
05 May 2022 18:28
  • phoenix
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Hi HybridQuest
Welcome to The Mattress Underground :)

Any help appreciated, as I need to get a mattress in a few weeks so I'd like to order in the next day or so

You came to the right place for some guidance on your mattress shopping journey. I’ll start with a little word of caution because giving into the need to "get a mattress within a couple of days" and rushing this process may send you tumbling down a rabbit hole of trials, errors, and frustration and cause you to easily fall prey to marketing stories and sale rep promises.

I am looking for companies that offer the ability to have different levels of firmness in a queen mattress. My husband is 5' 10" 195lbs and prefers a firmer feel that supports at the hips and I am 5' 1" 118lbs and although I also prefer a somewhat firm mattress, due to shoulder/hip issues I need more softness.

Sure, we can point to you many companies that “offer the ability to have different levels of firmness in a queen mattress” but I am not sure this will serve you well without determining if the shoulder/hip issues are due to a lack of softness. While your guess that an inappropriate comfort is what causes your shoulder/hip issues may be right, I’d keep in mind there are other causes that you may want to take into consideration along the way.

You don’t describe the type of shoulder/hip issues you are having. Generally, they can be comfort (pressure point) related, support (spine alignment) related, or both. Some causes can include:
• Your needs changing over time due to aging or due to any personal stats and postural changes
• The foams in your current mattress breaking down and allowing your hips and shoulders to bottom out on the firmer layers below
• The foams in your current mattress breaking down and compromising your spinal alignment
• Inappropriate pillow
• Non-rigid and sagging foundation.
• Overlapping of any of the above.

Some questions that will give a better idea and how to guide you.
How long ago did your issues start (When did you first notice them)? Did your husband notice any changes as well? What are your sleeping positions? What is your body type and where do you tend to carry your weight? Did anything else change lately either in your sleeping postures or health-related? What kind of issues are you experiencing (numbness, tingling, etc.)? When in the course of the night do these issues tend to appear? Do they go away during the day? If you can find this info for your current mattress it would be useful to know the mattress type, thickness, and layering of your Sterns and Fosters and a brief history with them. Is mattress durability important to you or are you looking to purchase a temporary mattress that will last you 2-3 years?

Thinking on this a bit, I'm wondering if he might be ok with a very firm support, while allowing for a very soft top layer... that we both might be ok with the same..

This may be very appropriate in your case but again the process of finding a mattress that is a good match for your unique body needs and preferences can be a bit challenging especially if your needs changed over the years. As you most likely read throughout our site, the matching must be based on your PPP ((Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) as well as your stats (height, BMI, sleeping position(s), and any underlying health issues.

I think we need at least 8" of coils as some of the mattresses my husband tried in the store felt as if he was sinking in the middle and one of these had 6" coils. There are likely other factors than the coils that may have contributed to this 'sinking'.

You are correct that there are many “other factors than the coils” height ....(the coil count, gauge, and coil turn to name just a few) There are far too many variables at work that are interrelated and are responsible for how a mattress interacts with any specific person so judging just based on coil height only would be misleading. The first "rule" of mattress shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved that are unique to each person to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict or guess what your husband might have experienced with the mattress he tried in the store. If you can provide the details and specifics of the two particular mattresses, he tested I can certainly venture to make some comments. The combination of materials and components or which type of mattress would be the best "match" for you in terms of "comfort", firmness, or PPP or how a mattress will "feel" to you or compare to another mattress based on specs (either yours or a mattress), sleeping positions, health conditions, or "theory at a distance" that can possibly be more reliable than your own careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in step 4 of the tutorial) or your own personal sleeping experience (see post #2 here ).

I think a non-zoned coil would be best due to my height and I had read some people had issues with them.

I agree that shorter sleepers have difficulties with zoning and in most cases, it would be unnecessary, especially for petite people. This said it all depends on how deep into the mattress the pocket coil is. The further away your body is, the less you'll feel any of the zoning. Zoning, in general, is suitable for people that have more difficulty finding a mattress with the right "balance" between comfort/pressure relief (under the shoulders especially) and support/alignment (under the hips/pelvis especially) or who have more challenging circumstances or sensitivities, body types that are more difficult to "match" to a mattress, more complex medical issues, or who have a history of having more difficulty in finding a mattress that works well for them. There is more about zoning in this article and in post #11 here and the additional posts it links to but the only way to know whether any specific mattress (zoned or otherwise) will be a good match for you in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP will be based on careful testing or your own personal experience.

So any advice on couples getting around having to do the dual configuration? We currently have a very firm (very old) Stearns & Foster that we both like except for me needing more softness due to my shoulder.

It sounds like you put in a fair bit of research & consideration on your new mattress already! As mentioned above we'd need more data from you to be able to determine if you can get"around having to do the dual configuration".

Sleep EZ offers the 360 Hybrid Pillowtop which allows you to choose this split comfort and does not have zoned coils. So my main question is are there any other companies that will do this?
We would consider all latex too, although thinking the hybrid might be less heavy, more breathable, and possibly less expensive. Any help appreciated as I need to get a mattress in a few weeks so I'd like to order in the next day or so..

That’s correct, hybrids generally are “ less heavy, more breathable, and less expensive” but again it depends on the foams used on top of the coils. Memory Foam is notorious for sleeping hot which would detract from the good ventilation of a pocket coil, Memory foam is also less durable in lower density so you’d need to find the mattress specifications you need to know so you can compare the quality of the materials and components to the mattress durability guidelines here

There are thousands of options available for both hybrids and all latex mattresses, but again it really depends on what feel you are looking for in a mattress. You can do a quick You mention Trusted Member of the site Arizona SleepEZ and I consider them to be among the best in the industry in terms of quality/value, and customer service They can help "talk you through" the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and "feel" of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness, etc.) and the options they have available that may be the best "match" for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the "averages" of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about "matching" their specific mattress designs, options, and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.. Their 360 Hybrid Pillowtop has 1188 count 8” pocketed 16 gauge coils with 15 gauge coils around the edge, 2 layers of latex with different comfort levels, and the mattress can be flipped to provide even wear and comfort options as well. Many of the Trusted members of the site offer latex and latex hybrid mattresses; Trusted member Luma Sleep offers a Natural Hybrid Latex Mattress with split comfort option on the King Size, and Flexus Comfort Mattress offers a dual comfort latex mattress with both a medium and firm side as well

I am not sure what you've read since you found us and if you came across tutorial post here which has all the basic information, steps, and guidelines you will need to make the best possible choices ... and know-how and why to avoid the worst ones which would include the major brands such as Serta or any mattress where you aren't able to find out the quality of the materials inside it. If mattress longevity is of concern you will certainly benefit from reading the Mattress Specifications you need to know here as well as the Mattress Durability Guidelines here to get a better idea of the various materials and how they hold up over time.

Once you've done a bit more ‘leg work’ to prepare for discussing your needs with the manufacturer you choose (provided that they are transparent and have your best interests at heart) they'll generally help find the best option for you and your husband. Do let us know how your search progresses.

Phoenix
01 Apr 2022 15:51
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Hi vicki4mattress,

I live in the Los Angeles County area in California. What's a good local mattress manufacturer? I'm feeling overwhelmed. Any recommendations would be appreciated.

Sorry to hear of your difficulties on your mattress search, I agree it can be overwhelming! You did not mention any of your particular stats (height, BMI, sleeping position(s) and any underlying health issues), nor any of your history with other mattresses and preferences so the first step is (If you have not already) to take a look at the Mattress Shopping Tutorial and also the mattress specifications you need to know this will give you a better idea of what to look for and avoid on your mattress search.
Outside of whether a mattress is a good match for you in terms of PPP ... a mattress is only as good as the quality of the materials inside it so regardless of the name of the manufacturer. There are literally thousands of mattresses on the market and to narrow things down, the next step is to decide on the type of materials you like in your mattress (memory foam, latex, innerspring, polyfoam, etc) the style of mattress (latex, foam, hybrid...) to get a general idea of what you want.

I had a quick look at the Trusted members , and see that Flexus Comfort Mattress Company is located in Covina in LA County at 808 E. Edna Place (800)577-8136; also Nest Bedding has a showroom in Los Angeles, at 12345 Ventura Blvd, Suite K, in Studio City, (818) 459-3738. Also trusted member GhostBed is carried by Macy’s, who have 3 locations in LA (I would call to see which of them carry mattresses before visiting). Many of our trusted members also offer online sales with generous trial periods and easy return policies.

Hopefully, some of our other forum members who live in or near Los Angeles will weigh in on their experiences with local retailers as well.

Basilio
26 Mar 2022 22:07
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Hi Todd123.

You may be able to identify where they are sourcing their latex from on their site, but my guess is with the number of certifications each company has on their latex, they're quite comparable. In this case, the price disparity is just one of those things.

NikkiTMU


come on mod team.



natural and organic are not the same thing. The raw materials for organic latex are certified to be free of pesticides, come from sustainable farms, treat their workers fairly, etc, etc and as a result costs more. Natural latex has no such certification but the label should distinguish products from blended latex, which is a mix of natural and synthetic materials.

Both Flexus and SleepEZ sell natural and organic models. From personal experience I can also tell you the "100% natural" model from flexus actually mixes natural dunlop and blended talalay. Blended talalay is a perfectly good product but it is cheaper to produce and it would be nice if that was accurately labeled on the flexus website.
21 Mar 2022 08:53
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Hi Todd123.

Welcome to our Mattress Forum. :)

Price differences can come down to a lot of things, from the lot pricing given for the latex from the original producer, to the size of the order made for components, to the price of shipping, operating costs, to the markup required to keep their business generating revenue and paying the light bill.

I couldn't tell you why these seemingly similar mattresses vary so widely in price, but Sleep EZ offers a much more limited selection in comparison with Flexus' stock.

NikkiTMU
20 Mar 2022 07:57
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I was looking at the Natural latex bed “10” from Flexus comfort and the Organic latex “10” mattress from Sleepez. Not sure why the big price difference between the two beds. Using same materials but Flexcomfort is $1899 and Sleepez is $2399.

www.flexuscomfort.com/mattresses/natural-latex-mattress.html#

sleepez.com/products/organic-latex-mattress
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