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20 Jun 2021 18:28
  • sciatica389
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Hi,

I originally came across this forum in 2016 as I was researching mattresses to buy after spending all my younger years on a twin size spring mattress that I outgrew. I settled on the #bestmattressever from Brooklyn Bedding as it was being discussed on this forum in May 2016, and I purchased it at the beginning of June 2016, iirc with a small discount that I had gotten through here at the time. It served me well for the first 4 years or so but in the last year has grown lumpy and I believe it has been a contributing factor to my ongoing sciatica. I contacted Brooklyn Bedding today and after sending them pictures they have approved my warranty claim, but before I settle on the updated version of the #bestmattressever I wanted to do some research to determine if a more firm mattress would be a better fit.

A few stats about me: 6'2", 240lb side sleeper. I use a 20x54" bamboo/memory foam body pillow to elevate my leg and I am a side sleeper for 95% of the year. Originally I came across Brooklyn Bedding after seeing their name mentioned through here, however it seems the presence has been scrubbed and search results past June 2017 don't return much. While I am curious what happened, I also know since they approved my warranty claim my next mattress will be coming through them as I do not have the money to buy a new mattress. I am awaiting a response from them as it seems they have updated the #bestmattressever, not only in quality but in name too, but I am also wondering if should switch to a slightly more firm mattress.

The updated version is the Brooklyn Signature Hybrid as seen here:
brooklynbedding.com/products/brooklyn-signature-hybrid?variant=32591736602669

It is offered in 3 versions: Soft, Medium, and Firm. My original one was Medium, however since that has only lasted 4 years before getting a crease in the middle I am wondering if I should switch to Firm.
07 Sep 2018 21:19
  • phoenix
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Hi skysongz.

I’m sorry your BMI mattress doesn’t work out well for you. At your weight after the adjustment period, the 4” of latex (2” of Talalay on top of 2” of Dunlop) within this mattress should not get softer “gradually” but keep its feel quite well over time. within the “breaking-in period” latex will soften only slightly with most of the adjustment coming from the fabric covering. I’d try to identify if the source of “softening” is not coming from the support system of your mattress or I’d look for any signs of premature sagging coming from a defective layer. Whenever someone comments about a mattress having a sag or sinking in too much into latex over time, I always suggest a “ground up” assessment to make sure that there is nothing under the mattress that may be contributing to the “sinkage” when lying down. I would first check the frame and support system under the mattress to make sure that it is perfectly flat and that there are no parts that are sagging or that are bending under the weight of the mattress and the people sleeping on it. It should provide similar support to having your mattress on the floor and you can test this by putting your mattress on the floor to see if it makes any difference. If it does then it's possible that your support system could be part of the problem as well. While it would be unusual ... if either of your latex layers are defective and there are visible impressions that are deeper than they should be then I would certainly talk to them about a warranty claim.

Phoenix
06 Sep 2018 22:41
  • skysongz
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Just dropping in to give my thoughts on the soft best mattress ever (note that I’m on the old version when they just called it the best mattress ever before they went hybrid) - I feel like mine started out too firm, they sent me a topper to help break it in, and it gradually got softer and softer so I took off the topper, and now with no topper I still feel like it’s too soft! I feel like it continued to get softer past the trial period and I would not purchase another soft mattress. For reference I’m a side sleeper 120 lbs who often sits in bed to read, and I particularly dislike sitting in bed with too much sinkage, but I also feel like my hips sink too much when lying down.
03 Jul 2018 21:12
  • phoenix
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Hi droidx.

These lineups were all launched at the end of last year and it is not surprising that you cannot find too many comments (before this BB had only one product TheBestMattressEver that sometimes mid-year 2017 after changing materials and replacing the latex with the Titanflex foam was renamed "Signature" ) As with any mattress, building a solid track record takes some time and “real consumer” feedback and experience with the product over a longer period of time versus the very soon after-purchase reviews that more often than not are only another type of marketing system that take advantage of the consumer’s mindset and use them to target a market that pays undue attention to them.

There are some posts with comments and discussions about the mattresses you are interested in here , here , and here . You can always do a forum search just click here and put a key term in to see if you can find anything else of interest you. They have a good customer service and you may wish to contact and ask them directly which is probably the fastest way to get your questions answered.

Hopefully, any of the other forum members that own one of these mattressess for some time will see your post and share their experience.

Phoenix
05 Mar 2018 10:58
  • ladysparks
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Not sure how to start a topic. I thought we were supposed to comment under an article in the Our Articles section but my comment is still there and I saw come comments in the thread about hyjacking being a necessary evil while the forum is in transition so I'm copying & pasting my question here...my apologies if I'm confused!

My husband & I purchased a Brooklyn Bedding #bestmattressever back in October (it is a version that seems to be no longer available with 3 layers of memory foam). Our old mattress was a double-sided pillowtop from Denver Mattress that we bought way back in 2002 - it had seen better days and my husband's back was starting to hurt all the time. He adamantly insisted on purchasing the "soft" version, vs the medium or hard, though I wondered if medium was probably wiser. He is primarily a back sleeper, I sleep exclusively on my side. We are both overweight - he is 210lbs, I am 250lbs. The new mattress came and it was beautiful and comfortable and neither of us had any complaints initially. But after a week, the hip I sleep on started to become very tender. I visited some family for a few days and the pain went away but as soon as I came back and slept on the new mattress, it came back again. But we wanted to give the mattress a fair trial so we slept on it until mid-December and I was still hurting and his back was starting to hurt again so I contacted Brooklyn Bedding to return it.

They offered a cooling gel-infused memory foam topper and an extension on the trial-period so we accepted. And for the past two months we've been sleeping with that on top of the mattress. My hip is mostly better, just the occasional twinge, but my elbow of all things has begun hurting - the one on the side I sleep on. And my husband's back still aches often. Plus I feel like we are sleeping warmer than we did on our our pillowtop. So I contacted Brooklyn Bedding again.

They no longer carry the same mattress and asked if we'd be willing to try the new Signature Hybrid which is two layers of foam on top of 6" coils. Supposedly it sleeps cooler due to the coils. And they suggested we stick with the "soft" option saying it "will be softer than your current mattress with the topper due to the pocketed coils. Since the topper still didn't make the mattress soft enough, I would definitely encourage going with the soft comfort level to get you that added pressure point relief." I just want to confirm we are heading down the right route? Is staying soft wise or should we push for medium? (My husband is still thinking soft is best.) I just don't want my elbow and hip pressure points hurting.
16 Nov 2017 18:46
  • AJohnson
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My husband and I are both 5'6", 160-170 lbs. My first pregnancy I topped out at about 210, and we're hoping for more kids down the line. You can definitely see on our mattress where I slept when pregnant - it's got a good 1.5" indentation. Would the Arctic Dreams provide enough support for someone of that weight sleeping on their side? On our Fåvang, I had huge issues with pressure points when pregnant, so I'm wondering if the Love & Sleep might provide more support if I have similar issues in the future.


I'm 185lbs and 6'1" (24.4 BMI), and am trying out an Arctic Dreams 10" right now. This has 2.5" of Energex as the comfort layer on top of a 6.5" core. I've personally found that my body heat softens the Energex too much, and my butt and back end up smashing it too flat and coming into noticeable contact with the harder core, to the point where it's slightly uncomfortable and I'm going to return it. and this is with back sleeping. if I were a side sleeper it'd probably be worse.

the thicker 12" Soft model of the Arctic Dreams instead has 3" of Energex, and an 8" core, which will give you more cushioning than the 10" Medium, but I still don't think that extra 0.5" of Energex would be enough. if you were a back sleeper, sure, but I still wouldn't risk it for a side sleeper near our BMI.

the Love and Sleep uses the same Energex, but has the thicker 3" layer, and more importantly, has a 1" layer of 2.0lb convoluted polyfoam between the top Energex and the base core, which should ease the transition between the Energex and core better than the Arctic Sleep. this looks like it'd be a much better option if you want Energex and are concerned about pressure points.

when you said you disliked latex, did you dislike the bounciness of it, or the firmness? if it was the latter, there are blends that are softer, and conform more to your body.

have you considered Ghostbed? it uses a 1.5" latex layer on top of a 2" memory foam layer. the layer of latex between you and the memory foam can buffer a good amount of that memfoam quicksand huggy feeling (while having a positive side-effect of making it sleep cooler), while the memory foam underneath the latex will blunt a lot of the bounciness. I'm guessing at all of this though, Phoenix would have to weigh in to be sure.

Brooklyn Bedding's #BestMattressEver might also be a good option, but I've read a lot of reviews saying that the medium firmness was significantly firmer than expected, and that the Titanflex foam takes a much longer time to break in compared to other foams (like, months) so give it a good long trial to make sure it doesn't just need more time to soften up before returning it if you end up trying it and not liking it. If you're a side sleeper, I might consider their Soft model over the Medium, although I have no personal experience with this mattress, so I can't say for sure.
02 Oct 2017 00:13
  • takesh1k0vacs
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Hi everybody,

Recently I moved to Hong Kong and I noticed here how non-transparent the mattress brands here; most of them seem to be overpriced nor do they hold a flame to North American mattress brands.

I'm looking to purchase a Brooklyn Bedding #BestMattressEver with medium firmness. I have reached out to their customer service and found out that they do not ship to Hong Kong directly, however through postal forwarding services such as myUS.com the shipping would be around half the price of the mattress itself - which is still cheaper than here!

I am however taking the risk that the medium firmness might not be for me, though through my research this mattress seems the most ideal. Would anyone know of any mattresses that could be shipped internationally, or any alternative postal forwarding sites to Asia?

Thanks
29 Aug 2017 17:35
  • anotherscott
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I am still in my eval period with my Brooklyn BestMattressEver, and I'm reasonably happy with it, but my partner is less so. So I'm looking into Luxi and Helix specifically because they allow each side of the mattress to be customized independently, and they also address my partner's preference of avoiding latex.

I've included the basic specs for the Luxi and Helix below, and would be interested in any insights into these mattresses' relative pros and cons (or simply performance differences, even if not clearly better/worse) that anyone may be able to discern from those specs. Also, if by any chance anyone here has had first hand experience with any two of the three mattresses (Luxi, Helix, Brooklyn), I'd be curious to hear of your experiences and any comparison you'd make between them, or description of in what respects you found them similar or different. (Ideally, discussion of Luxi and Brooklyn would involve the current non-latex models, but that's probably asking too much!)

Sharing/consolidating what I've learned so far, for anyone else comparing these: While Luxi and Helix are similar in being separately customizable on each side, there are also substantial differences in what they're doing. Very broadly speaking, there is a similarity in that each has layers which can be re-ordered in different ways, independently for each side of the mattress. Luxi allows you to re-order the layers yourself. Helix does not, instead determining the likely optimum order for each sleeper based on your pre-purchase quiz. Helix also can employ foams with different characteristics based on that quiz, so the two different sides of the mattress not only may have their layers in different orders, but may actually be using materials of different firmnesses for each side as well. So despite the similarities, the philosophies seem almost opposite... Helix doing the customizing for you (using variable layer orders and also variable firmness levels for some of those layers), as opposed to Luxi allowing you to customize for yourself (using just variable layer orders). None of which necessarily means that the feel of any particular configuration of one will feel like anything you can get from the other, and I expect that it's perfectly possible that you can intellectually prefer the design philosophy of one, yet end up preferring the actual feel of the other!

The materials...

Helix:
* Cover (thin)
* Helix Dynamic Foam 2" (their non-latex foam that behaves similar to latex) (3 possible weights from 2.5 to 3 lb, depending on how you fill out the quiz)
* Pocketed microcoil springs 2"
* Polyfoam comfort layer 2" (3 possible weights, depending on how you fill out the quiz)
* Polyfoam Base Layer 4" (1.8 lb)
(the layers won't necessarily be stacked in that order)

Luxi:
* Quilted cover 1"
* Luxitex layer 1.5" (their non-latex foam that behaves similar to latex) (3 lb)
* SBT layer 3.5" (buckling columns, acting something like coil springs) (3 lb)
* Transition layer 1.5" (memory foam) (4 lb)
* Base foam layer 3.5" (2 lb)
(and you can re-order the layers)

All thoughts welcomed!
26 Aug 2017 15:11
  • anotherscott
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In terms of DURABILITY:

The Helix mattress includes 2" of 1.8 lb polyfoam in the comfort layers which is the minimum polyfoam density I would suggest for those that are in more average weight ranges. They also use 1.5 lb polyfoam in the base layers of the mattress and while it's true that the deeper layers will have less effect on the durability and useful life of a mattress ... it's still a little lower than I would normally like to see in a mattress in this budget range. The deeper layers can still have "some" effect on the durability and useful life of the mattress but the effect would be more for those that are in higher weight ranges and/or that tend to compress the deeper layers of the mattress more than most people.

The BestMattressEver uses two layers of latex on top of a 2 lb polyfoam base layer which are all higher quality and more durable materials that exceed all the minimum guidelines and would be suitable for any weight range. It would certainly be the more durable choice of the two.

Since both companies have altered their configurations since that post, I was wondering if your durability conclusions would still be the same...? Helix is currently 2" of Helix Dynamic Foam, 2" of pocketed microcoil springs, 2" polyfoam comfort layer, sitting above 4" polyfoam base layer (the first three layers could appear in any order above that base). BB-BME is 2" of Titanflex comfort layer, 2" of Titanflex support layer, over a 6" high density foam base.
29 Jul 2017 20:47
  • phoenix
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Hi knbeagle,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :)

I tested a Serta iComfort Blue 500, and found that comfortable in the store. The price; however, is not to my liking. I keep coming back to the Brooklyn Bedding #bestmattressever. I was hoping I could get some feedback on both these options. Is there a clear winner here?


While I can certainly help with "how" to choose ... It's not possible to make specific suggestions or recommendations for either a mattress, manufacturers/retailers, or combinations of materials or components because the first "rule" of mattress shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved that are unique to each person to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or combination of materials and components or which type of mattress would be the best "match" for you in terms of "comfort", firmness, or PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) or how a mattress will "feel" to you or compare to another mattress based on specs (either yours or a mattress), sleeping positions, health conditions, or "theory at a distance" that can possibly be more reliable than your own careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in step 4 of the tutorial) or your own personal sleeping experience (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here ).

I'd start your research by reading the mattress shopping tutorial here and two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you've read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best "match" for you in terms of "comfort", firmness, and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for).

Outside of PPP (which is the most important part of "value"), the next most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you can't see or "feel" and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the specifics of its construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label or how a mattress feels in a showroom or when it is relatively new so I would always make sure that you find out the information listed here so you can compare the quality of the materials and components to the durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.

In its simplest form ... choosing the "best possible" mattress for any particular person really comes down to FIRST finding a few knowledgeable and transparent retailers and/or manufacturers (either locally or online) that sell the types of mattresses that you are most interested in that are in a budget range you are comfortable with and that you have confirmed will provide you with the all the information you need about the materials and components inside the mattresses they sell so you will be able to make informed choices and meaningful comparisons between mattresses and then ...

1. Careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in the tutorial) to make sure that a mattress is a good match for you in terms of "comfort", firmness, and PPP ... and/or that you are comfortable with the options you have available to return, exchange, or "fine tune" the mattress and any costs involved if you can't test a mattress in person or aren't confident that your mattress is a suitable choice.

2. Checking to make sure that there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress you are considering relative to your weight/BMI range that could compromise the durability and useful life of the mattress.

3. Comparing your finalists for "value" based on #1 and #2 and all the other parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.

As for the Serta model you mentioned, unfortunately the major brands such as Sealy/Stearns & Foster, Simmons, and Serta all tend to use lower quality and less durable materials in their mattresses than most of their smaller competitors that will tend to soften or break down prematurely relative to the price you pay which is why I would generally suggest avoiding all of them completely (along with the major retailers that focus on them as well) regardless of how they may feel in a showroom, along with any mattress where you aren't able to find out the type and quality/durability of the materials inside it (see the guidelines here along with post #3 here and post #12 here and post #404 here ). Serta doesn’t provide any meaningful specifications of the mattress you mentioned, and it’s unlikely that you’ll be able to find that information, but if you do and post it back here I’ll be happy to comment upon it.

The Brooklyn Bedding Best Mattress Ever does use better quality componentry (you can read about the specifications in the Simplified Choice Thread here ), and it is available in Soft, Medium and Hard configurations. If you are considering this item, I would recommend a phone conversation directly with Brooklyn Bedding, as when you can't test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help "talk you through" the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and "feel" of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness etc.) and the options they have available that may be the best "match" for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the "averages" of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about "matching" their specific mattress designs and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.

FYI, I am a side sleeper.


Side sleepers in general tend to need a softer mattress than back or stomach sleepers and an online retailer will generally suggest a mattress that they believe will have the best chance for success (based on averages) since a return is very costly to an online retailer or manufacturer and it's in their best interests to make a suggestion that they believe will have the least possible chance of being returned.

Hopefully that information helps to give you a start in your mattress research.

Phoenix
28 Jul 2017 19:11
  • knbeagle
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Hello,

I am been researching a new mattress for weeks now! My current mattress is over 16 years old, and needs to be replaced. There are now SO MANY options! I tested a Serta iComfort Blue 500, and found that comfortable in the store. The price; however, is not to my liking. I keep coming back to the Brooklyn Bedding #bestmattressever. I was hoping I could get some feedback on both these options. Is there a clear winner here? FYI, I am a side sleeper.

Thanks for your help!
14 Jul 2017 11:53
  • Expat
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Hi
Please forgive all the alliteration in the Subject line.
My wife and I have been looking through all the information on this website and forum. Many thanks for all the helpful tips of what we should look for and how we should approach our search. However, at a certain point, with all this information we have to ask for more help!
We have a very old and relatively thin latex mattress -- kind of like a board right now. After reading through all the descriptions of materials and discussing our preferences with a few different retailers, we think we want a latex again, but something a little thicker than the 6 inches we have now. We had a VERY helpful conversation with Spindle -- they seem to be honestly motivated by us having a mattress that works for us.
Unfortunately, they pointed out that the mattress that they would recommend is too heavy at 180 lbs for the base that we bought. (We bought a Pratico King Storage Bed with Gas Lift from Expand Furniture, as we don't have much storage space in our new apartment.) On the specs, it says that we should get a mattress less than 100 lbs or 50 kgs, but it seems that any decent latex we've looked at is too heavy. We called Expand, and they said that the mattress could be a little heavier (e.g. #bestmattressever is 120 lbs, and would be ok), but they sell the Magniflex Dual 9 with their beds. I'm a little leery about Magniflex, because I can't seem to find any information on them.

So, my question is, do you know of any lighter latex, or perhaps a polyfoam that has latex-like properties, that we should try? Note we're in the process of moving, so the easiest way for us is to call some retailers, have it shipped to the new place, and in the event it doesn't work, adjust it (e.g. a topper) or take advantage of a good return policy as a last resort.
22 May 2017 20:00
  • Shadow6363
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Hey all!

I was hoping you could recommend me a few different mattresses to look at that sleep cool. I previously purchased the Brooklyn Bedding #BestMattressEver medium firmness about a year back and have been a bit hot on it and also felt it was a bit firm. I know they recently changed their formulation so if you guys think it's cooler now, I'm happy to take another look. If it's relevant, I'm 6'0", 180 pounds, and a side/stomach sleeper.

Thanks!
23 Apr 2017 11:01
  • phoenix
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Hi Huckleberry,

I'm glad some of the information I shared was useful to you.

In the Birmingham, AL area, the pickings are a bit slim, but the better options of which I am aware are listed in post #57 here . Specifically, I would recommend that you pay a visit to Tom at Royal Bedding. He is very knowledgeable and is always creating new items, so his web site wouldn't necessarily be indicative of everything that he might have available to sample. He would also be knowledgeable about the configurations you are considering.

Good luck!

Phoenix
23 Apr 2017 09:37
  • Huckleberry
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I greatly appreciate the thorough reply Phoenix. Are there any mattress companies local to the Birmingham, AL area you would recommend, specifically for latex on coil array, latex on polyfoam, or all latex? Thanks,

Jerry
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