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15 Feb 2017 13:56
  • phoenix
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Hi SleepyBee,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :)

Thank you for your detailed post – that’s quite a tome!

I’m glad you found something you liked locally at Mountain Air and had a good experience there. I’ll look forward to your comments about your mattress (you did choose something using high quality materials) once you’ve had a chance to sleep on it for a while.

Phoenix
15 Feb 2017 11:11
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Mom, where do beds come from?
I'll be fair in saying that I don't remember my first mattress, but the first mattress I can remember was when I was 5 years old. My great grandmother made my mattress. It was the size of a twin mattress and stuffed with old blankets and foam. My bed was an old hospital bed that had been purchased for $5 in the late 70's when the state mental hospital was down sizing and clearing out their inventory. If you are unfamiliar with the anatomy of a hospital bed of this era, it's actually kind of neat, but it was also kind of creepy. What if someone died in my bed? I know it's morbid, but totally creeped me out as a kid. I slept on this bed and mattress until I was 14 yrs old.



This is how my bed life began, and each step has seemed a vast improvement as I remember where I have come from in my journey through beds.

Floor Beds
After I insisted and pleaded to please let me get rid of that bed and the mattress, my next bed was ... a 4" high foam cushion, just long enough for me to lay down on, and narrower than a twin size bed. I slept on this for about a year until I saved up enough money to buy one of those cheap metal futons at walmart. I was sooooo excited. It was amazing! I happily snoozed on my futon for about a year... then it got lumpy and the bars were poking me and I finally tossed the mattress on the floor and just slept there.

Box Store bed(ding)
At 17 yrs old I FINALLY got my first real mattress! It was a twin size mattress AND box springs from Sam's, and I felt like this was going to be my bed forever! I was so happy to have that bed. I bought my first set of sheets at Bed, Bath and Beyond and I still have them and love them even though they don't fit anything. LOL

Yard Sale Bed
The next year when I moved into an apartment I was sad to be separated from my cute little bed and instead had a very old, very used full size mattress and box springs purchased from a yard sale. My bed frame was nice though, or at least it had a good story. My bed frame was who knows how old, but solid metal and the story goes that my father found it behind his grandparent's shed and fixed it up for himself when he was young. This was my bed frame until I was 30 yrs old!!! The mattress only stuck around until I was 26 yrs old and then I was given another used, and very old mattress - but definitely in better condition - from my grandparents.

Pause Button Bed
So, finally at 32 yrs old I kicked all that to the curb... except the bed behind the shed, I kicked it to storage, but anyway - the point is at 32 yrs old I finally bought a QUEEN size bed. I read reviews on here for weeks determined to get the best cheap bed I could find. So I ended up purchasing the Dreamfoam Bedding Ultimate Dreams Crazy Quilt Pillow Top Mattress, Queen which was almost $274.76 just a couple years ago and now is less than $200 and as a frame I purchased the Sleep Master Platform Metal Bed Frame/Mattress Foundation, Queen .

OMG! Going from an old, sad, saggy bed to this new configuration was the difference between night and day! I had never slept so good! Each night I snuggled into bed feeling happy. I knew that what I had purchased was not the final solution, but more like a pause button. I knew the day would come where I would have to be serious and *gulp* ... go bed shopping.

After just over 770 uses I'm sad to say that it's time. I don't think that there is anything wrong with the choices I made for my pause button bed, but they also were not thoroughly thought out and definitely were not tailored to my specific needs.

Year of the Bed
If you're calculating my age as we go along, I'll be 35 yrs old soon. This is the year of the bed for me. Year of the Bed!!!

I have noted several things during the past 770+ sleeps:
1) I definitely prefer a firmer mattress,
2) It turns out that I really do care about my bed and mattress being natural, organic and granola-like.
3) I live in my bed. When I watched Bedknobs and Broomsticks as a kid, I wanted a magical bed that could transport me to amazing places. I kind of still want that bed, and I'll be Angela Lansbury and instead of traveling with children, I'll travel with my dog.
4) Despite the glory of underbed storage, that metal bed frame just wasn't for me. It's ugly, over the last few months it's started making a squeaky noise... all in all I find it quite a disappointment. In fact, in the angst of a migraine some 2 weeks ago I actually got so annoyed with it's squeaking that I took everything out from under the bed, took the bed off it and tossed the frame in the storage. So, my mattress is now directly - and quietly - on the concrete floor.
5) The bed must be an appropriate height that makes it easy for my dog to hop up. She's 3 and can hop up and down all day, every day right now... but we're planning for the future - which will hopefully be a long one.
6) I read and work while sitting in bed, and thus cannot have a mattress that's going to get all cranky just cause I'm sitting on it rather than laying on it and equally distributing my weight.
7)My bed should be amenable to having just me, me and my dog, or me and my partner +/- 2 dogs. So I guess what I'm saying is that the equal distribution of bodies and weight may vary and long term durability is going to be very important.

Spoiler Alert! I've already bought it!
"Then why are you writing this?"
Well, I'm laying the ground work for my bed review. I think it's important to have the backstory on how I arrived at my selection before I start evaluating it.

I was really - REALLY - wanting a latex bed. I had been eyeing the Dreamfoam Bedding Ultimate Dreams Aloe Alexis Latex, Queen for some time and felt like this was probably going to be the bed I bought. So my price range was about $1,500.
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I started looking for bed frames and really that's where my trouble began, I just couldn't find a solid bed frame. There were all kinds of stylish ones, but nothing really said, "SOLID" and if it did it had a solid price more than twice that of the mattress.

FFWD to Last Week
I went to the Mountain Air Organic Beds store in Springdale, Arkansas. I live in the northwest Arkansas area and I had always wondered what they had going on, but I knew whatever it was would probably be expensive too. I went anyway.

Yes, it is quite a bit more pricey than many of the beds I had been looking at online, but something compelled me to buy local, and support a woman- and veteran-owned business. It was also really cool to walk in there and see the staff actively sewing products. Making pillows, pillow cases, zippered mattress casings, all kinds of stuff and everyone was soooo nice! I know, you can't sleep on nice people (it would be creepy, right?), but I genuinely had fun shopping for a mattress that day! It was stress-free, calming, just like chatting with friends the whole time.

I was there for almost 2 hours, and they were so patient with me. They switched out all kinds of layers, toppers, pillows and so on and each time would let me lay there quietly with the lights off. When I finally found the combination that felt right for me, I nearly fell asleep. Everything felt comfortable, no achy pressure points, no twisted neck, it all felt perfect... as I slowly came back to reality I started contemplating how much this comfort is worth. At this point they had left me to quietly lay on the mattress. No continuous sales pitching, or constant talking, no rush, just time to lay there and evaluate all the feelings.

It was at this time that I had begun to remember my beds of past, so when I arose from that calming psuedo-nap I had decided that this was indeed my bed.

I purchased the Organic Joy 10" (Queen 60x80) $2,789.00
3" Bottom Layer: Firm
3" Middle Layer: Firm
3" Top Layer: Medium
Topper: Eco-wool Fleece with organic cotton backing (add $369)
25 Years Layer Exchange & Warranty
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I also ordered a Platform Bed Frame with headboard (add $749)! They handcraft the bed frames on site too! They are really beautiful and I don't think squeaking will be a problem. LOL

I also ordered a pillow that I fell in love with at the store. And if you think the story of my beds of past is kind of sad, you don't want to hear about pillows. There are at least two pillows that will be retired as soon as this bed arrives.

So, I kind of blew out my little budget, but I'm feeling good about my purchase. I'm awaiting arrival of my items in the coming weeks and would like to use this as a place to document my mattress experience as it unfolds.

h
18 Jan 2017 13:35
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Hi Hogwild,

Our next stop was Mountainair Organic beds in Springdale. I was going to make the trip up to a savvy rest dealer, but after looking at Mountain Air's website, and knowing their close proximity I decided to swing by. They may not have had the best reputation on here in the past, but I have to say that I came away impressed with their products and owners.

I’m not sure about “not having the best reputation here in the past” regarding them, as a forum search on Mountain Air turned up only a few results, where I’ve commented that their products seemed to use higher quality materials, but that they are in a higher budget range than some similar latex mattresses, so I would make some careful value comparisons, and that there is some information on their website that is more marketing than factual. But otherwise their materials seem to be good.

Apparently they used to be a savvy rest dealer, but moved away from that model in order to build their own where they could control the quality of their product better (and honestly probably make more money without licensing fees).

Yes, they did carry Savvy Rest in the past. Some retailers do choose to create their own small component-style lines, which can afford them the opportunity to create their own different feels and not be “locked-in” to the options offered by manufacturers. There also can be cost-savings measures in buying their own componentry, which may or may not be reflected in their pricing. There is no licensing fee to be a Savvy Rest dealer.

Anyway, they are big into helping the customer find the right fit for their body and spent a lot of time with us. She even turned out the lights in the shop to let us simulate sleeping for 20 min. She was very transparent about what they make and where everything is sourced from. It sounds like they get all their Dunlop through Arpico and Talalay through Radium.

It's nice that they took the time to assist you and give you good attention.

I honestly think you should consider calling them and include on your recommended list for my area, but you would have to make that determination.

Membership here is a more “organic” process (no pun intended) based upon many factors, and not something that I aggressively seek, but I do appreciate your comments about them. :)

Alright back to the testing and next question....We want a 4 layer mattress and the configuration for my side was as follows (talalay soft on top, followed by Dunlop soft, Dunlop medium, and Dunlop firm). The respective Ild's are ( 20-23-soft, 24-28-medium, and 31-36 firm). My concern is that as a stomach sleeper, that may be too soft for me.

You didn’t list the thicknesses of the layers, but looking at the mattress in your photo, and knowing that Mountain Air used to be a Savvy Rest dealer, it looks to be a configuration similar to the Unity Pillowtop, which used 3” layers.

I wouldn’t know if this is too soft for you, as all I can help with "how" to choose. It's not possible for me to make specific suggestions or recommendations for either a mattress or combinations of materials or components because the first "rule" of mattress shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved that are unique to each person to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or combination of materials and components or which type of mattress would be the best "match" for you in terms of "comfort", firmness, or PPP or how a mattress will "feel" to you or compare to another mattress based on specs (either yours or a mattress), sleeping positions, health conditions, or "theory at a distance" that can possibly be more reliable than your own careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in step 4 of the tutorial ) or your own personal sleeping experience (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here ).

With that being said, generally using 6” of plush latex for the upper comfort layers in considered a bit more of a “plush” configuration and sleep ergonomic research will generally recommend to defer toward a bit of a firmer surface comfort in order to minimize accentuating the forward lordotic curvature of the low back/lumbar area.

I had also read that 2 soft layers on top may be too much and break down faster over time.

The uppermost comfort layers of any mattress will tend to go through more mechanical stress and “break down” faster than the deeper support layers – this is true. It is also true that a lower ILD foam will tend to “break down” faster than a higher ILD of the same foam. The good thing here is that you are considering something using very good quality materials, so I wouldn’t have as much concern about durability as I would the appropriateness of the comfort of the product for your particular sleeping style.

Spinal alignment looked about the same when I varied the 2nd layer to Dunlop medium, but for some reason the 2 soft layers on top felt cozier. My fear is that after a short break in period the two soft layers would be too much for my style of sleeping. Thoughts?

While I appreciate the photos, unless you were using some sort of a landmark marking system or white-light raster line triangulation, I wouldn’t be able to make any meaningful comments. Of course, these are measuring items used in labs by researchers and not used in sleep shops ;) . While it is extremely difficult to tell, and it would only be a guess, from the photos you supplied (and your feedback about feeling cozier) it does look as if your lumbar region is sinking in more on the more plush product. Also on that mattress photo you seem to have quite a bit of lateral neck flexion and I would have a concern that the pillow you were using for testing to be too thick for this combination, but that could be the way you like to sleep when prone.

2nd question--I've also called sleepez and spoken to them about a suggested layering. The only problem is their ILD's for the medium layer seem to be a little more "firm" than Mountain Air Organic. My fear is that what I'm testing may not even carry over should I decide to go with Sleepez instead. I would love to test every layer that sleepez had but know that's not feasible. Any suggestions or thoughts?

You are correct that unless you are using the exact same foam from the exact same suppliers in the exact same configuration using the exact same coverings…it will feel different. SleepEZ uses a variety of sources for their latex and if you phoned and provided them the specifications and the types of latex in each layer, they could do their best to either duplicate what you liked, or based upon your local testing feedback make their own recommendations for what they think would work best for you and your sleeping style. As you may be aware, SleepEZ is a member here, which means that I think very highly of them and that I believe that they compete well with the best in the industry in terms of their quality, value, service, knowledge, and transparency. They are extremely knowledgeable about latex and different configurations, and I would not hesitate to recommend them for your consideration. They do offer a 90 day comfort exchange policy should you find that you need to swap out a layer (Maintain Air has a similar policy for layer swap outs), which is an important consideration with any component mattress system should your initial configuration not turn out as well as you had hoped.

Lastly, I will say this for Mountain Air ....their prices are negotiable. Like just about any place nowadays (including sleepez) they know they have to attract certain customers with "deals". I haven't gotten their final quote yet, but feel like they are willing to work with me should I find a better price on a comparable product.

I can’t speak for what Mountain Air offers for pricing policies, and I generally caution others about speaking for the selling policy of a business unless they are part of the ownership, but I can tell you that one of the more distasteful things that members here of the site mention is the large fluctuation that some retailers offer in their pricing. While offers/bundles/deals are common, you can still see the final price and make a logical comparison. Better businesses shouldn’t require a consumer to go out and find a “better price” in order to get a lower price from a store, and should instead offer a good everyday low price that reflects the value of their product and the value of their services. Of course this is my opinion and one of the issues I have with many mattress stores that continually offer “50% off deals” or don’t price their items at all in the showroom. I’m not saying this is the case at all with Mountain Air, and any business certainly can decide to adjust their pricing if they have room to gain your business if they feel the comparison has merit. You simply gave me the opportunity to get on my mattress pricing soapbox! :)

In general, I would treat retailers or manufacturers that negotiate their prices or have sales with "huge" 50%-70% discounts as a red flag because manufacturers or retailers that sell good quality/value mattresses don't need to negotiate or have "fake sales" with misleading discounts to create a false sense of urgency, and they sell good quality/value mattresses every day of the year at prices that are already very fair and reasonable.

I’ll be happy to answer other questions you might have as you go through this process as best I can, and I’ll be interested in your progress.

Phoenix
17 Jan 2017 19:47
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Phoenix, thanks for the reply. I'm definitely trying to do my homework and read as much as possible. I have looked through the tutorial in depth and went out this weekend to start testing.

We were able to visit Joplimo mattress (very nice people) but I think it would be harder and more expensive for them to build anything we wanted. They did have a nice selection of hybrid latex and coil mattresses as well as memory foam, but just not what felt like would fit our needs.

Our next stop was Mountainair Organic beds in Springdale. I was going to make the trip up to a savvy rest dealer, but after looking at Mountain Air's website, and knowing their close proximity I decided to swing by. They may not have had the best reputation on here in the past, but I have to say that I came away impressed with their products and owners. They were very knowledgeable and it sounds like Joyce (owner) has tried various foams from different manufacturers before settling on who she thinks makes the best for her customers. Apparently they used to be a savvy rest dealer, but moved away from that model in order to build their own where they could control the quality of their product better (and honestly probably make more money without licensing fees). Anyway, they are big into helping the customer find the right fit for their body and spent a lot of time with us. She even turned out the lights in the shop to let us simulate sleeping for 20 min. She was very transparent about what they make and where everything is sourced from. It sounds like they get all their Dunlop through Arpico and Talalay through Radium. I honestly think you should consider calling them and include on your recommended list for my area, but you would have to make that determination.

Alright back to the testing and next question....We want a 4 layer mattress and the configuration for my side was as follows (talalay soft on top, followed by Dunlop soft, Dunlop medium, and Dunlop firm). The respective Ild's are ( 20-23-soft, 24-28-medium, and 31-36 firm). My concern is that as a stomach sleeper, that may be too soft for me. I had also read that 2 soft layers on top may be too much and break down faster over time. Spinal alignment looked about the same when I varied the 2nd layer to Dunlop medium, but for some reason the 2 soft layers on top felt cozier. My fear is that after a short break in period the two soft layers would be too much for my style of sleeping. Thoughts?

2nd question--I've also called sleepez and spoken to them about a suggested layering. The only problem is their ILD's for the medium layer seem to be a little more "firm" than Mountain Air Organic. My fear is that what I'm testing may not even carry over should I decide to go with Sleepez instead. I would love to test every layer that sleepez had but know that's not feasible. Any suggestions or thoughts?

Lastly, I will say this for Mountain Air ....their prices are negotiable. Like just about any place nowadays (including sleepez) they know they have to attract certain customers with "deals". I haven't gotten their final quote yet, but feel like they are willing to work with me should I find a better price on a comparable product.

27 Jan 2016 10:41
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Hi Kathi,

I'll be in the Fayetteville/Springdale/Rogers area of Arkansas this week and wanted to check out latex mattresses in person before buying. I found a company called Mountain Air Organic Beds. Does anyone know anything about this company?


The better options or possibilities I'm aware of in the Springdale/Fayetteville/Rogers area (subject to making sure that any mattress you are considering meets the quality/value guidelines here ) are listed in post #4 here .

Mountain Air Organic Beds carries some good quality organic Dunlop latex component mattresses but they are also in a higher budget range than some other similar latex mattresses so I would make some careful value comparisons. A forum search on Mountainair or an exact term site search on Mountain Air (you can just click the links) will also bring up more comments and feedback about them.

Phoenix
26 Jan 2016 22:36
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Hi!
I've really enjoyed the information on this site - it's a tremendous help! However, I'm on overload.

I'll be in the Fayetteville/Springdale/Rogers area of Arkansas this week and wanted to check out latex mattresses in person before buying. I found a company called Mountain Air Organic Beds. Does anyone know anything about this company?

Thanks!
12 Feb 2014 13:10
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Hi Ozark Sleeper,

Mountain Air used to sell Savvy Rest but they aren't mentioned on their site any longer and the Savvy Rest site no longer lists them so it seems they are no longer a Savvy Rest dealer (sorry for the misinformation) although their mattresses are also "component" mattresses with exchangeable layers.

They could be ordering their CoCo latex from their US distributor here .

They are certainly using good quality materials although there is also some misinformation on their site that is more about marketing than it is factual.

Phoenix
19 Feb 2012 22:22
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Hi ARazorbackguy1,

OK ... this is a little strange. There are two Mountain Air Organics websites in Fayetteville (same address) and they each have different prices for the model with 12" of latex.

The one where I got my numbers is here mountainairorganics.com/

The other one which has a price which is $350 less (and matches the Savvy Rest website) is mountainairorganicbeds.com

EDIT ADDED: They now go to the same site

Assuming that the lower one is correct ... you can take $350 off my numbers.

I should also mention here that we are looking at some options which have different materials which affects the pricing comparisons between them.

Savvy Rest gets their Dunlop latex from CoCo latex and it is organic. This means that it is 100% natural Dunlop which has gone through the organic certification process. This doesn't mean that it is necessarily any different from 100% natural Dunlop ... only that it has been certified. Their talalay is not organic (there is no organic talalay) but it is 100% natural. Latex Green also has Organic Dunlop.

If you were to use Latex Green organic Dunlop in the SleepEz natural 13000 (which they can provide on request) the materials would be close to the same as the Savvy Rest.

Mattresses.net also has the organic Latex Green (which is much more) but the mattress you are comparing doesn't use it (I believe the mattress you are comparing is the Blended Talalay adjustable ultra plush with an extra inch on top?).

The advantage of the Savvy Rest is that you are getting organic Dunlop. For those who are willing to pay significantly more for "organic" instead of 100% natural regardless of any actual difference ... the difference in price may be worth it.

100% natural Dunlop is less expensive even though it would be identical in performance but Savvy Rest doesn't offer this.

100% natural Talalay is the most expensive version of talalay.

Blended talalay is lower cost than 100% natural talalay (and similar to 100% natural Dunlop) even though the natural is less durable when used in lower ILD's that are typical for comfort layers.

So ... apples to apples ... the sleepez 13000 natural would be the most comparable to the Savvy Rest and if your Savvy Rest quote was correct (which I really doubt), then the Mountain Air Savvy Rest would be only $464 more than the SleepEz after shipping and tax and you would get the extra wool protector. This would put the Savvy Rest "in the ballpark" and I would consider it (assuming again that your quote is correct) because the difference was less than about 20% or so and I would get the wool mattress protector.

I personally wouldn't go in this direction at all however because I don't believe that organic Dunlop is worth the premium over the 100% natural Dunlop. While others may not share this view ... the 100% natural Dunlop is just as "pure" as the organic in my eyes ... the only difference being that it's purity hasn't been "recognized" with a certificate.

This means that if I was to use Dunlop (and I personally prefer talalay) then I would be going in the direction of the SleepEz 13000 which used any combination of natural Dunlop or Blended Talalay layers that I wanted or the similar version at mattresses.net which also uses blended talalay. In this case I would still be saving almost $1000 with SleepEz and even more with mattresses.net (with the same tradeoff in the ability to customize between the two as I mentioned before) and the only thing I would be receiving extra from Savvy Rest would be the wool protector. This degree of difference (over 40%) wouldn't be worth it to me even if your quote was right.

In the end of course ... it's up to what you consider to be most important and these are only my personal versions of the "value equation" that I would choose. It's no better or worse than anyone elses :)

Phoenix

PS: If your quote is right then Mountain Air may end up doing some "extra" business because they would be the least expensive Serenity Pillowtop by far out of all the Savvy Rest outlets.
19 Feb 2012 20:11
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Phoenix, as always thanks for your time!

We have a written quote/proposal from Mountain Air that is the Organic Serenity P.T. 4 Layer bed for $3,179 - $200.

If this is truly the case and not a typo, then does this become a much better deal for the Savvy? 12" for $2979 and all of the promotional stuff?
19 Feb 2012 18:50
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Hi aRazorbackguy1,

I think you may have some misinformation about the Savvy Rest prices. The prices listed on the Mountain Air website for a 9" Dunlop latex mattress by itself in a Cal King Size are $3179 without the 3" talalay topper. With the 3" Talalay topper the price is $5079 (a jump of $1900???). I suspect that if you are looking at 12" of latex (9" of Dunlop and 3" of Talalay) then the price you are mentioning may not be correct.

If you compare the Savvy Rest mattresses to the almost identical 13000 natural mattress at SleepEz for $2900 (Same type of layering and same type of latex with 12" total latex) you will see a significant difference in price (the regular difference would be $2179 but with the $200 discount at Mountain Air would be $1979).

The SleepEz 13,000 with 3 layers of 100% natural Dunlop and blended talalay in the top layer would save you an additional $505. Blended talalay is actually more durable than natural talalay and most people could never tell the difference even though it has a lower cost.

So you could purchase a very similar mattress and also have the ability to exchange layers if you choose to (which Savvy Rest doesn't offer) for total savings of $2484 (assuming that you purchase the same accessories). The only benefit from Savvy Rest would be the free protector (which is nice) and pillows which would probably be roughly equal the 5% discount you would get from SleepEz for being a member here. I should also mention that you don't need two protectors and the wool one would be enough.

I used SleepEz as an example because the comparison with the Savvy Rest was almost identical.

Mattresses.net also has great value of course and the savings would be about $200 - 250 more (using the rejuvenite 3" topper with cover because the topper you mentioned was 2" so not so directly comparable and after their shipping costs) You would have a separate mattress and topper (rather than all the latex in the cover) and of course the pillows and less the 5% discount. The tradeoff would be slightly less options in terms of ability to customize the layering.

Neither of these comparisons take into account the extra tax you would pay with Savvy Rest so altogether your savings would be a minimum of $1979 + $85 shipping + $300 tax for a total of $2364. If you ended up using slightly different types of latex which would likely serve you just as well or better from either SleepEz or Mattresses.net ... then your savings would be even more and could be @$3100.

While I never decide for someone else what should be part of their personal value equation, I know for sure that if I had the same choices that the greater after sale flexibility and exchange both of the members here offer and the VERY significant price differences between them and Savvy Rest, I personally wouldn't even have to think about which direction I would go.

So overall, only you can make the choice but I thought I should at least clarify that the differences are probably even more than you were thinking unless the prices on the Mountain Air website are significantly wrong.

Phoenix
18 Feb 2012 23:57
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Ok, so we went to our local Savvy Rest dealer, Mountain Air Organics. They were very helpful and we learned a lot about the specific differences in Talalay and Dunlop. We figured out that the configurations that my wife and I really like are as follows for a split Cali King:

His Hers All of these layers are dunlop for a total of 9"
M S
M M
F F

On top of this, we would have a 3" Talalay soft topper.
We will also get 2 pillows and a wool mattress protector for "free"

We were quoted a price of $3,179 minus a $200 discount for Presidents Day sale. Total for Mattress and topper alone is $2,979

I would have to buy foundation from Amazon for roughly $299

Would still need another protector pad $89.99 Protect a bed cover

On top of that we will have to pay $85 delivery, $300 tax.

Total is around $3,700

The benefits of this are that the store is a 30 min. drive away, the sales people are husband and wife and really care about what they do and how they make their customers feel. The quality of the mattress and materials are very impressive. Can go to the store if i have any issues.

On the flip side, I have talked with Greg at Mattresses.net and that was a great experience as well. He recommended the following:

6" Firm Talalay base
3" Soft for her and 3" med for him

This comes with 2 latex pillows and the Bamboo cover.

Cost of 9" base layer is $1595 plus another 3" latex topper for $289 plus the cost of the case for the topper.

$299 foundation

$89.99 mattress protector

Shipping is $160, but there is no tax.

Total is around $2,400 and a 5% discount because of this forum :)

With the mattresses.net situation I don't have the ability to go and try out the mattress before hand and am going into the purchase blind. However, is that worth the $1,300 difference in price? What is the difference in the quality of latex between these two companies? What would you all do?
18 Feb 2012 15:08
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We are in Bentonville, AR. I am mostly a side and back sleeper and my wife is a back sleeper. She really likes soft and I am really not sure what I like because I have never had a good bed, just hand me downs all of my life :) but i think i like a medium firmness

There is a place in Fayetteville called Mountain Air Organics that sells Savvy Rest beds, based on their website. Would this be a good place to try something similar to what i would get from Mattresses.net?

Also, Mattresses.net seems to be the place with the best deal. We are looking at the King Naturalux Set with an additional topper. I am assuming that "Set" means it comes with the foundation? If that's the case, then this seems to be a reasonable solution. Would just need to find a nice pad and latex pillows to top it off!


Thanks again for your help!
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