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12 Mar 2020 06:58
  • Gail_B
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I bought the Talalay Wewatta (Sleep Nation)
mysleepnation.com/products/7346/Wewatta-St-Firm-
mattress last year in Colorado. It's made of a 6" Talalay firm (they wouldn't show their proprietary foam layer, nor would they provide a density rating for it) . There is another 6" of Talalay Latex underneath it. It's wrapped in a slippery eucalyptus fabric.

I slept on it for 6 months and decided it was too firm. I am 140 lbs (6ft tall) and my husband is 170lbs (6 ft tall). I am a side sleeper with chronic back pain. My husband sleeps on his back and can snore if the mattress is too soft. The Wewatta foam mattress causes pressure points on my shoulder/hip and really stiffens my upper back.

I cannot return it because I live out of country (and there's financial penalties for the "comfort exchange", so I'm needing a topper. I'm fearful of picking the wrong topper due to this most recent costly mistake. I would prefer Talalay for it's temperature controlling properties.

Which topper thickness and density would you recommend to make me want to sleep on my latex bed?
04 Nov 2018 09:17
  • Tdona825
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I appreciate when people follow up on their purchases so here is my experience:
It has now been over a year since I bought my new mattress set from Sleep Nation. Sleep Nation was my last ditch effort at finding a mattress and I think I chose this store at the perfect time. They had just opened a new store in my area so the family and I stopped by and told the manager, Sean Sutton, our concerns. He directed us to 4 different beds that were a step above the mattress most similar to the doctors choice mattress I just returned. I tried all 4 out and was trying to decide between a plush and a firm and Sean talked me into the firmer of the 2 based on my issues ,University Blvd Plush firm: mysleepnation.com/products/5741/University-Blvd-Plush-Firm
I have been very happy with my purchase and am sleeping comfortably again. Sean could have easily tried to convince me to buy the more expensive sets in the store but was really knowledgeable on the mattresses and was more concerned about finding the best set for me. I would recommend them over and over again.
27 Aug 2017 13:19
  • phoenix
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Hi sunyata,

Thank you for your reply and information about your mattress. I am happy that it was something as simple as an incorrect law tag. Luckily, it is easy for someone knowledgeable to determine if the product is indeed made with the appropriate componentry, and I am glad that Sleep Nation did this for you so quickly. I am guessing that they were just as curious as you were!

The componentry used in your mattress is very point elastic, so pressing down into the memory foam will feel quite soft, but when you lie down upon the mattress and your weight is distributed over a wider area, it should feel quite supportive.

I'm glad the news for you was positive.

Phoenix
26 Aug 2017 15:12
  • sunyata
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Thanks Phoenix.

I was going to edit/delete parts of my last post, as my experience with SleepNation has been very positive and things like this happen, but since you already replied I will leave it as is.

I am happy that I called them. I am a very detail oriented person who always checks and double checks everything. In this case, the problem was an incorrect lawtag. Sean, who I believe you have talked to, came by my place as quickly as he could and confirmed the mattress was made correctly. Literally, within two hours of calling the store he arrived. I saw the latex core with the two inches of memory foam on top, and am very happy with how the mattress feels and how the process has gone.

As far as the size of the mattress goes, I am not concerned with it. I believe my previous bed was pretty much the same. The bed looks and feels great. It felt a little softer than I expected when I press into it with my hand, but feels the same as it did in the store when I lie down. Very supportive and yet soft.

It was nice to deal with a store that knows their mattresses and can respond to issues like this quickly.
26 Aug 2017 14:34
  • phoenix
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Hi sunyata,

Mattress arrived. It is about an inch shorter each direction than my previous queen mattress, at least according to the manufacturer measurement attached to the mattress (it says 59 x79). I will measure myself at some point and confirm this is the measurement. But I guess there is no official measurement for a queen mattress and this mattress is probably the way it is supposed to be.


The ISPA (International Sleep Products Association) standard sizing for mattresses are as follows:

Size Dimensions
Twin 38 x 74½
Twin Extra Long 38 x 79½
Full 53 x 74½
Full Extra Long 53 x 79½
Queen 60 x 79½
Eastern King 76 x 79½
California King 72 x 83½

Even though these are the "standard" sizes for ISPA ... there can still be some variation between the "standard" sizing made by different manufacturers in the industry. With soft goods like mattresses there can also be variations between different mattresses as well (normally in the range of a +/- 1" variation from their standard sizing) depending on the dimensions of the materials when they are cut (there can be some variance with cutting flexible materials) and the components they use in their mattresses and on the thickness of the cover that encloses them (a cover that is 1/2" thicker or thinner for example would change the length and width of the mattress by 1").

The tag says "all new material" which is 80% Visco Memory Foam and 20% urethane foam. I get paranoid about stuff, and am slightly afraid that I got delivered a pure memory foam mattress rather than one with a latex base (since this doesn't mention latex) as I don't feel the latex base the way I did in the store. Would you have any tips on a way I can confirm? I called store and they are looking into it - when I described the tag they said "something didn't sound right."


You’d definitely want to confirm that you have the correct mattress. The materials are represented by weight percentage, and the law tag on this product seems to represent a memory foam mattress that has a polyfoam core (not latex). It is possible the incorrect law tag was accidentally sewn into the cover for your mattress. The specs on the web site state that the support core of the mattress is latex, with 2” of memory foam. I’m not sure if there are other materials in the product in the current line up, but the lack of latex being mentioned on the law tag would be a concern to me. I would contact the store again and see if they can find out the reason for this omission or error, just to confirm you have what you are supposed to have.

Phoenix
26 Aug 2017 12:36
  • sunyata
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Mattress arrived. It is about an inch shorter each direction than my previous queen mattress, at least according to the manufacturer measurement attached to the mattress (it says 59 x79). I will measure myself at some point and confirm this is the measurement. But I guess there is no official measurement for a queen mattress and this mattress is probably the way it is supposed to be.

The tag says "all new material" which is 80% Visco Memory Foam and 20% urethane foam. I get paranoid about stuff, and am slightly afraid that I got delivered a pure memory foam mattress rather than one with a latex base (since this doesn't mention latex) as I don't feel the latex base the way I did in the store. Would you have any tips on a way I can confirm? I called store and they are looking into it - when I described the tag they said "something didn't sound right."

Mattress does not seem substantially firmer as I expected it would. Feels broken in, soft but supportive, like I felt in the store. Will update after a few weeks.
13 Aug 2017 19:12
  • phoenix
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Hi sunyata,

Congratulations on your new mattress purchase! :cheer: The combination of the higher density memory foam and the latex support core are good quality materials. I’ll look forward to your future updates once you’ve had a chance to sleep upon the mattress for a while.

Phoenix
13 Aug 2017 15:04
  • sunyata
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Just wanted to say I purchased the 10" Memory-foam-Latex mattress. The experience was positive. There is a decent amount of sales, but I do believe that I got a quality mattress (assuming the 5lb memory foam is correct as previously stated on this forum) at a fair price, and I am hoping this mattress lasts for awhile.

After trying for 3 days at the store, this "Cherry Creek" model (the thinnest and least experience of the foam/latex hybrids) offers the great combination of softness and support I was looking for, truly a "comfort firm" or whatever they call it. I was surprised at how soft it was given how supportive it felt. I didn't find anything that similar at any other store I went to.

I receive the mattress in 2 weeks and will keep this forum updated as to how the experience goes.
12 Aug 2017 14:19
  • phoenix
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Hi sunyata,

I'm sorry, but paulfranco89 never posted back with another update (I looked in other threads on the forum for you), but hopefully he'll see your comment and can offer his one-year follow-up.

Phoenix
12 Aug 2017 08:57
  • sunyata
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Hi Paul,

I don't suppose you have any updates?

I am looking at the 3 models of foam/latex hybrids and am close to buying one. I cannot decide which one I like the most and am overthinking it. The lowest-priced model has 2" of foam on top of latex and is 10" overall, and it is intriguing. Very supportive and yet still soft.

My experience at the store has been positive. It is not beyond sales techniques, but it does seem a cut above the average mattress store. The store would not tell me the density of the foam, but I am going to ask for Sean and check in.

I am a little worried about it sleeping hot, but know this is a problem with memory foam. Their all latex-mattresses feel nice and I like the snappiness of the material, but I actually prefer the memory foam feel quite a bit.

They do not offer returns, but give you a year to decide whether you like the mattress or not. If you want to change your mind, you can return the mattress for credit minus a $170 restocking/disposal/etc fee, which isn't terrible considering it is a full year.

I like the store, but hoping the "natural" or "organic" materials are not increasing the price too substantially - either in terms of actual cost or in luxury cost of what people would pay for such a label. Just because frankly I think the synthetic high-quality materials are probably no worse health-wise.
01 Jun 2016 10:46
  • phoenix
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Hi paulfranco89,

Thanks for taking the time to share another update ... I appreciate it!

A month is fairly typical for the break in and adjustment period for a good quality new mattress.

It's great to hear that your choice worked out so well for you :).

Phoenix
01 Jun 2016 10:16
  • phoenix
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Hi stuuke,

The "regular price" of a mattress isn't a reliable way to assess the "value" of a mattress purchase or whether you are getting a "deal" because if the regular price is the MSRP (manufacturers suggested retail price) it's generally highly inflated and has little to do with what the mattress usually sells for and is generally more about marketing than anything else. Even that is assuming that the mattress would be worth buying at any price because I would avoid any mattress that uses lower quality or "unknown" materials regardless of the price.

The information in post #15 here about price vs "value" would also be well worth reading.

I thought you were buying 2 mattresses rather than 3 but regardless of how many mattresses you are purchasing the only way to assess whether you are getting a "deal" or not would be to compare them to the other finalists you are considering based on their suitability, their durability, and on all the other parts of your personal value equation that are important to you (including the price of course).

Phoenix
01 Jun 2016 09:28
  • paulfranco89
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To anyone that might be considering this mattress, here are my thoughts 9 months in:

Going off of memory, I would say the mattress softened up for the first month or so of sleeping on it and then didn't become noticeably softer after that. I did rotate the mattress every month for the first 3-4 months, and then every 3 months thereafter (per the suggestion of SleepNation).

All-in-all I'm completely satisfied with the mattress. It's getting warmer in Colorado right now and I notice myself sleeping warm (I don't have AC) but it's nothing that can't be solved by using less sheets/comforter. I am also playing around with the idea of finding a more breathable mattress protector as I'm convinced the one I have now (from Target, specifically for memory foam mattresses) is contributing to this. I think in the hot months of the summer that this will be a problem, but to be fair it would likely be a problem for me with any mattress.

The feel of the mattress is extraordinary., it is still supportive but very soft, I've had no problems with pain at all (whereas I did with the Casper when I tried that). It appears to be very high quality. I also sleep with a partner now and we don't notice ourselves sinking towards each other over the course of the night.

I'm still very satisfied with the purchase. Will update again in another year or so :)

Cheers,
Paul
12 Mar 2016 19:17
  • phoenix
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Hi Bryce720,

I wanted to post and see what your thoughts and or anyone else's thoughts were.


5 lb memory foam is certainly a good quality and durable material so along with the latex there would be no lower quality materials or weak links in the mattress.

Firm All Natural Latex Support Core 24ILD.


While it won't make a difference because when you are testing a mattress locally your own careful testing and personal experience will tell you much more about whether a mattress is a suitable "match" for you in terns of PPP than knowing the ILD of the latex layers ... it's unlikely (although it's possible) that the base layer of a mattress would be as soft as 24 ILD.

My main concern would be sleeping hot??


Latex and memory foam are completely different materials with very different properties and there is more about the general differences between memory foam and latex in post #2 here .

While it's not possible to quantify the sleeping temperature of a mattress for any particular person with any real accuracy because there are so many variables involved including the type of mattress protector and the sheets and bedding that you use (which in many cases can have just as significant an effect on sleeping temperature as the type of foam in a mattress) and on where you are in the "oven to iceberg" range and because there is no standardized testing for temperature regulation with different combinations of materials ... there is more about the many variables that can affect the sleeping temperature of a mattress or sleeping system in post #2 here that can help you choose the types of materials and components that are most likely to keep you in a comfortable temperature range.

Some types of memory foam are more breathable than others and/or have less effect on sleeping temperature but memory foam or gel memory foam in general tends to sleep warmer than other types of foam materials (latex foam or polyfoam). There is more about the different properties that can be formulated into memory foam in post #9 here and post #8 here but latex in general is the most breathable and temperature neutral of all the foam materials. While only a minority of people will have temperature regulation issues with memory foam to the degree that they will be uncomfortable ... if you tend to sleep hot then the odds are higher that you may be one of them.

Phoenix
12 Mar 2016 18:26
  • Bryce720
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Well I stopped in to Verlo and Bandon was off today, bummer. There was a super nice sales lady, (don't remember her name). I didn't want to make her get the latex toppers out. So I thought I'll just shoot down Monday when Brandon is in.

I was already 1/2 way to sleepnation. So I headed down to the Cheery Creek Store. I talked to Steven. Super nice knowledgeable guy. I laid on the Larimer, seemed like a nice very well made mattress. For me it was comfortable, but I didn't love it.

Then I tried the Bonnie Brae, which I loved! The mattress has a Latex base and 3" of plant based ecofoam/memory foam. Please see specs below.

Cool Max cover
Celliant technology for increased oxygen
3” Plant Based EcoGel ® Memory Foam 5lb
Firm All Natural Latex Support Core 24ILD.

I wanted to post and see what your thoughts and or anyone else's thoughts were. The mattress was one of the most comfortable I have laid on as of yet. My main concern would be sleeping hot?? What are your thoughts?
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