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26 Nov 2020 10:17
  • Mattrebuild
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I suspect your husband is very much like me (I'm 6'2 and 240lbs, not fat just big build) and also a side/back sleeper with pain in my hips/lower back. My issue is almost always a fight between alignment and pressure relief while my wife being petite can sleep on almost anything. For me it's like a bad game of whack-a-mole where if you address one issue (alignment vs comfort) you end up compromising the other. I had to resort to basically designing my own bed using a sleep number base with firm latex layers on the top for comfort. For me the key as to have a very firm base layer of air and then use firm latex foam to allow just enough pressure relief to remove any soreness while still providing the spinal alignment I need (quite a challenge for bigger folks). I would suggest experimenting first with a simple high quality air mattress first like I did along with a few different 3" latex layers of differing stiffness so you can see what works best. If you find that this does help then you haven't spent much and you can look at various different air mattress manufacturers (Sleep Number, Personal Comfort, Innomax, Rest, Boyd, etc) for possible solutions. I would just be very hesitant personally to shell out that much money on a Rest bed without being absolutely sure my solution would work but I certainly sympathize with the fact most will pay almost anything to make the pain stop (myself included).

I would get an expedition type air mattress like this, you want around 6" thick like most air mattress manufacturers use: www.expedusa.com/collections/sleeping-mats/products/megamat-max
I would then get the 3" twin XL Dunlop in firm (44) and medium (30) so you can try different combos to find what works best: sleeponlatex.com/products/natural-latex-mattress-topper

This setup will allow you to approximate what it feels like on a top end air mattress before making the plunge and you can then use the latex layers to customize your bed to your liking later too. Put it on
the floor and blow up the mattress as firm as you can then add layers on top until your husband feels like the pressure is being relieved just enough the soreness is gone when he is lying on it. You can also play a bit with the pressure in the air mattress too if you have any trouble with alignment but I suspect if he is like me the firmer the better with an air base layer.
27 Jul 2020 12:24
  • voyager39
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This is an initial reaction to my newly received Plank mattress, which I'm using on the firm side.

In a nutshell, it's not as firm as I'd like. It's definitely not as firm as my Innomax air mattress, once it's pumped to a firm setting. To remain on an optimistic footing, I will avoid saying for now that the Plank is "too soft". It's possible that with suitable physical therapy exercises, and sufficient shifting from back to side to stomach sleeping that I can make it work. But the fact remains that, after my first rest on it, I wish it was firmer.

One telephone sales person at Brooklyn Bedding described the firm side as being like sleeping on a floor having some medium-thick carpeting. I'm here to say that that statement is nonsense. It's nowhere near that firm. I know this because, after sleeping on a too-soft mattress for a while recently at a hotel, I slept on the floor, and the Plank is nothing like that.
19 Jun 2020 18:02
  • voyager39
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Thank you for your reply. I don't intend to limit myself to air bed technology. I use air mattresses because a long time ago, I found that I'd pick a mattress in a store and then later that it didn't work at home. It was the adjustability of air mattresses, not a preference for air over coil springs or foam that led to air beds being my default selection.

For many years, I purchased from Select Comfort, and later ended up switching to Innomax air chambers. These days, new air chambers last me an average of three months before becoming too soft for me to use.

I plan to read my homeword assignment and to post more once I'm ready to explore further.
13 Jun 2018 06:43
  • Richmond Bedding
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Sviv,

Sorry to hear about your problems.

We recommend working with your doctor(s) and getting their input as to what would be the best solution for you in their opinion. A lot of times their answer is simply "whatever you find comfortable".

Couple of things to keep in mind. The Original Mattress Factory Latex is a blended latex mattress. They use a 60/40 synthetic to natural mix. In our opinion, and I think most here would agree, this isn't a true latex mattress.

As for the Sleep Number... If you have days when you need more or less support, depending on how you feel, this might be a solution for you as the bed allows for the adjustment of firmness. If you're considering an airbed for adjustability I recommend getting one with just a few foam layers between you and the air chamber. The big "puffed up" (i8, i10) models, when adjusted, make it difficult to feel any changes in firmness.

As for the Sleep Number pricing, most people fell it's out of line. We offer a line of airbeds manufactured for us by Innomax in Colorado. In our opinion, their construction is superior to Sleep Number at a friendlier price point. We've had success with these and they are available from several different sources, not just us.

Good luck and I hope you find a mattress that brings you comfort!
22 May 2018 22:12
  • phoenix
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As of May 2018, we welcome Richmond Bedding to The Mattress Underground community.



About Richmond Bedding
Knowledge & Experience: Richmond Bedding is a local (Richmond, Virgina) and online retailer that specializes in Leggett & Platt Adjustable Beds and compatible mattresses. Over the last 15 years, Richmond Bedding has become the leading online retailer for Leggett & Platt Adjustable Beds. Note that Leggett & Platt was the first company to offer adjustable beds for the home over 40 years ago and has been in business for over 135 years.
Richmond Bedding Products:
Richmond Bedding also offer a wide selection of mattresses that are adjustable bed compatible. They have everything from Savvy Rest Organic Latex mattresses, Two-Sided Natural Talalay Latex, Cool-Gel Hybrid and 100% Cool Gel Foam mattresses. They also offer five airbed models manufactured to their specifications by Innomax for people seeking an affordable alternative the “number” beds.
  • Leggett & Platt Adjustable Beds
  • Savvy Rest Organic Latex Mattresses
  • Two-Sided Talalay Mattresses
  • Cool Gel and Cool Gel Hybrid Mattresses
  • Therapedic Mattresses (offered only in their showroom in Richmond, Virginia
Service: Richmond Bedding and Tim (the owner) are not only a fantastic resource for all adjustable bed questions, but they are extremely skilled in assisting each or their customers find the model that best suits their needs and preferences. Over the years Tim and Richmond Bedding have had much recognition for creating a positive experience for everyone who interacts with their business and for demonstrating great support to their customers.

TMU Consumer Discount:
Discount Code: TMU
5% off of any mattress


For any past discussions or comments about Richmond Bedding products or expertise, feel free to use the forum search tool or you can create a member account and register on our forum to ask any questions you might have. Richmond Bedding is invited to bring their level of expertise in the area Adjustable Beds and compatible mattresses, and airbeds. Registered TMU consumer members will be able to directly connect and ask more specific questions in the Ask an Expert forum sections.
For more details please visit Richmond Bedding’s Business Member profile .
09 Jul 2017 16:49
  • phoenix
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Hi Meribeth,

Which airbeds made by Innomax or Personal Comfort would be most similar to the Sleep Number p5?


You can see my comments about airbeds in this article . While any mattress may be a good choice for some people ... in general terms I would look for other options.

Select Comfort doesn’t provide meaningful information about the foam layers within their mattresses, but I would echo mt_huckleberry’s comments about contacting any other air bed company in which you have an interest for comparison, as they would be used to comparing their products to Select Comfort’s lineup.

By the way, Select Comfort (aka Sleep Number) bought ComfortAire in 2013.

Phoenix
09 Jul 2017 07:23
  • Meribeth
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I went to the Sleep Number store and tried several beds and really liked the p5 which is one of their best selling beds, but I don't want to pay their high price. I currently sleep on an air bed made by Comfortaire (no longer in business) which I especially like and I'm sure I want an air bed. Which airbeds made by Innomax or Personal Comfort would be most similar to the Sleep Number p5?
23 Apr 2017 22:13
  • pesmith
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Thank you so much! We are retired, seventy-five years old. I had thought we should get an air mattress for two reasons: 1) to avoid the necessity of rotating a heavy king-size innerspring, and 2) so it would be light enough I could change the bedding easily by myself. I would have bought a basic Sleep Number, but my spouse, wisely, would not pay that much money. We have looked at Select Comfort in their L.A. showroom, and have watched You-tube ads on Innomax and Boyd. We like a firm feel & dislike the feel of sinking-in that memory foam usually provides. At the same time, I greatly fear (perhaps unreasonably) pillow tops that have too much fiber which will compress and leave a body impression. I am attracted by a six chamber air bed, otherwise Innomax would likely be our choice. I am writing to thank you for the list above. This gives us more to choose from. We would not have been able to easily locate these sites on our own.
Thank you also for the list of mattress companies that you have invited to be associated with your site. There are four I noticed in Phoenix, though I have not checked them out yet. Though not likely, it is possible we will end up with innerspring and latex, or just latex. It may depend on how heavy they are. It is scary to buy a mattress online without trying it out.
Incidentally, since I was going to be in VA in May, I thought I would check out the store in Newport News, VA that has the You-tube ads for Innomax and Boyd air beds. My husband noticed an online ad offering the store for sale. Disappointing. I had so hoped to actually try out those two mattresses, or a lower priced version, from those companies. I don't know the status of the store.
Thank you again for this site!
10 Apr 2017 15:15
  • phoenix
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Hi awill,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :)

Thank you for taking the time to provide such a detailed accounting of your search for an air mattress.

I’ll add a few comments to what you’ve already contributed.

My partner and I decided we wanted an air mattress. We went to the local Sleep Number store and tried all the beds. The sales people are very nice and try hard to sell you a bed. Whatever you do walk away! Don't make a big purchase like this quickly. I went online and started researching other brands and quickly realized there are much cheaper options!

Just like shopping for an innerspring mattress or a foam mattress, education is key, and you need to know about all of the componentry and foam layers within any mattress you’re considering, and you can use the guidelines in the mattress shopping tutorial for this. You tip on taking your time is a good one!

The beds are the same on Best Beds, Air Beds Unlimited, and Innomax.

Yes, these are facilitated through the Specialty Sleep Services location on Ealti Street in Denver, CO. Innomax is the main brand there, but I can’t speak to exactness of each mattress on the online retail sites you mentioned, as they are very short on meaningful information.

Personal Comfort and Habitat have their own unique type of mattresses

Personal Comfort is made by American National, and Habitat is from US WaterMattresses.

But, Selectabed and Mattress Mill are in a whole different ball game! The offer independent lumbar support.

Yes, both of these have a separate adjustment for the middle third of the mattress. I have talked with Rick before at Air-Pedic (Selectabed) about the design and I like that they have a separate air chamber under the lumbar/pelvis area which can help offset any sagging in the middle of an airbed which can be a fairly common experience with airbeds ... especially with softer settings.

I bought a king Infinity Platinum air mattress (Mattress Mill) with medium latex + firm latex on one side and memory foam + medium latex on the other.

I’m happy that you had such a pleasant experience dealing with Mattress Mill, and most of all, congratulations on your new mattress purchase! :cheer: I’m looking forward to hearing about your experience with the mattress once you’ve had a chance to sleep upon it for a while.

For others considering air mattresses, you can see some of my general comments about air mattresses here and in this article . While any mattress can be a good match for a specific person because each person's needs and preferences or the criteria that are most important to them can be very different, in general terms I advise caution to consider them unless there is a very compelling reason that an airbed would be a better choice in "real life" (outside of the many "marketing stories" that you will hear about them) than the many other options or types of mattresses that are available to you. For those that are committed to an airbed, there are additional listings of airbed options that are detailed in post #3 here .

Phoenix
10 Apr 2017 08:33
  • awill
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I've spent the last couple of days researching air mattresses and want to share what I've learned. Maybe it will help out someone else on their search. There are a lot of options out there!

My partner and I decided we wanted an air mattress. We went to the local Sleep Number store and tried all the beds. The sales people are very nice and try hard to sell you a bed. Whatever you do walk away! Don't make a big purchase like this quickly. I went online and started researching other brands and quickly realized there are much cheaper options!

This website and others were great for learning what actually makes up a bed. Learn as much as you can. Get up to speed on foam types. Figure out what you like and try some out in a store. I wanted a firmer bed and my partner was on the softer side. I like latex foam and partner wants memory foam

Here are the websites I looked at:
www.airbedsunlimited.com/
www.innomax.com
bestbeds.biz/adjustable-sleep-air-beds/
www.personalcomfortbed.com/
www.habitatfurnishings.com/
www.selectabed.com/adjustable_air_beds.htm
www.mattressmill.com/

I was generally frustrated by poorly designed websites, lack of specifics, and grainy pictures. There is a pattern that emerges from these websites. The beds are the same on Best Beds, Air Beds Unlimited, and Innomax. Personal Comfort and Habitat have their own unique type of mattresses (although I think they have the same pumps and bladders). But, Selectabed and Mattress Mill are in a whole different ball game! The offer independent lumbar support.

This made all the difference for me. You can adjust the lumber region (middle third) of the mattress independently. The head and foot regions share the same pressure. Because of this I focused on Selectabed Air-Pedic and Mattress Mill.

Air-Pedic compares their beds to the Sleep Number categories. They use traditional foam only. I called to ask about foam density and they sales guy didn’t know any densities, just that it was poly foam. They don’t offer latex at all.

Mattress Mill was amazing on all fronts. They offer latex and memory foam. They custom build the mattress with the comfort layers you want. Platinum mattress has two layers of 1.5” foam of your choice. They really seem to care about your comfort and satisfaction. I bought a king Infinity Platinum air mattress with medium latex + firm latex on one side and memory foam + medium latex on the other. I fully expect this bed to be better than the i10 Sleep Number bed. Mattress Mill’s comfort layers are set up so you can change them around or add/remove layers as you see fit. Truly customizable. I’m hoping this means I won’t feel like needing to return the bed because it’s to firm/soft.

Mattress Mill is a standalone store Montana. Seemed like real people running an honest mattress business (do these actually exist?!). I don’t think they do a lot of online sales. I spent a good bit of time talking with the Nan on the phone. She was very helpful and knows her stuff. She was able ship across the country and meet my delivery dates.

Warranties appeared similar for the vendors. A couple years of full warranty and the pro-rated for the rest. Make sure it covers dips and sags over ¾”.

Since its an online purchase I wanted a good return policy. My favorite was when they picked it up for a flat fee. I think Sleep Number does this for $180 and Selectabed was $400. Most required you pay return freight. From what I can figure this is probably around $400 for a king mattress. Mattress Mill said they would work with me and help me arrange freight company if it came to that.

Overall, with delivery and tax, Sleep number quoted $5,300 for i10 mattress, Selectabed quoted $3,396 for Air-Pedic 800, and Mattress Mill quoted $3,480 for Infinity Platinum. Besides the prices, difference makers were Mattress Mill’s lumber support (better than Sleep Number), latex foams (better the Selectabed’s poly foam), and amazing customer support.
28 Mar 2017 08:03
  • davo32683
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Hopefully Tean94 is still around and can provide an update on their Innomax Medallion
17 Mar 2017 11:20
  • phoenix
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Hi Alpharalpha,

Subject to first confirming that any retailer or manufacturer on the list that you wish to visit is completely transparent ( see this article ) and to making sure that any mattress you are considering meets the quality/value guidelines here ... the better options or possibilities I'm aware of in and around the Tampa/ Clearwater/St Petersburg areas are listed in post #143 here .

Of those listed, these stores show that they offer latex products:
Pittsburgh Mattress Factory
Bartow Mattress Factory
Matter Brothers (might make latex mattresses – you’d have to phone)
Innomax
BodyRest has one latex model
Orlando Mattress Company
810Beds
Somnis Sleep
Bed Pros
Design Interiors
Better Back Store
Mattress Avenue

Phoenix
15 Aug 2016 00:32
  • phoenix
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Hi Brian B,

Thank you for the detailed reply. In follow up, I have been on the phone today with Innomax in Denver. Do you have much for information on them? I am hoping to make the drive there sometime in the next week.


Innomax is a smaller manufacturer that make a range of different mattresses and tends to use higher quality materials and have better value than the major brands and they are generally transparent about the type and quality of the materials and components in their mattresses as well. As always though the materials and components in any specific mattress you are considering is always more important than the name of the manufacturer on the label. A forum search on Innomax (you can just click the link) will also bring up more comments and feedback about them as well.

Phoenix
14 Aug 2016 18:54
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Thank you for the detailed reply. In follow up, I have been on the phone today with Innomax in Denver. Do you have much for information on them? I am hoping to make the drive there sometime in the next week. I like the idea that they have many styles of beds from memory foam, to air and water as well as traditional coil spring. After a conversation on the phone, I am very intrigued by the idea of a soft sided mostly waveless waterbed. I had a free flow water bed when I was in my 20's and slept very well on it. I have also had 3 different sleep number style beds and slept mostly well on them. I like the idea of being able to lay on a water style, air bed and memory foam in the same session and directly compare them.
09 Aug 2016 16:44
  • phoenix
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Hi Kathleen,


Thanks for taking the time to share an update with your experiences ... I appreciate it.

The OMI OrganicPedic beds are comfortable and feel luxurious, but are insanely expensive. Their Pinnacle model is nearly $9,000. That's not gonna happen. I don't know if its the convoluted Talalay layer on top and/or the wool and cotton cover, but they really feel great. My hope is to replicate the feel for less.


There is more information in post #9 here about the different ways that one mattress can "match" or "approximate" another one. Every layer and component in a mattress (including the cover and any quilting materials) will affect the feel and performance of every other layer and component and the mattress "as a whole" so unless you are able to find another mattress that uses exactly the same type of materials, components, cover and quilting, layer thicknesses, layer firmnesses, and overall design (which would be very unlikely) then there really isn't a reliable way to match one mattress to another one in terms of "comfort", firmness, and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) based on the specifications of the mattresses (even assuming that you can find out all the specifications you would need for both mattresses you are comparing in the first place).

If you wanted to build your own DIY mattress that was an approximation of the Pinnacle then you would need to find out the specifics of every layer and component in the Pinnacle (which would include the type and blend of latex, the thickness of each layer, and the firmness of each layer along with the specifics of the cover and quilting) and purchase them separately and it's unlikely that OMI will provide you with all the information you would need to "duplicate" their mattress.

If you can't "duplicate" a mattress based on the specs of the materials and components inside it then the only way to "match" another mattress in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP would be based on your own side by side comparisons and personal experience.

I didn't like the Savvy Rest dunlop layers, but they had talalay layers that felt better to me. Still, the bed feels rubbery (go figure) and the initial comfort is lacking.


I'm not sure which combinations of latex layers that you tried but there would be a very wide range of different layering possibilities that use either Dunlop or Talalay in each layer with different firmness levels for each layer that would each have a different "feel" and firmness level. I would also guess that there was also less wool in the cover but I don't know this for certain because I don't know how much wool each of them use in their covers.

The Innomax mattress was a joke, a plain slab of rubber that felt like a little trampoline. Same with the Pittsburgh Mattress latex, and that place was creepy. The person working gave us a long and unsolicited story (like a ghost story over a campfire) about how "all the mattress makers got together and decided to get rid of box springs" and other latex factoids that didn't match at all with any of our other research. Really weird.


This is a somewhat distorted version of a true story. Box springs that have actual springs inside it were more common 15 and more years ago when there were still many 2 sided mattresses in the industry but they have been replaced with foundations that are firm and have no flex under the mattress since one sided mattresses have become more common.

A box spring can certainly have an effect on the feel and performance of a thinner 2 sided latex mattress that for some people may be too firm or uncomfortable without it. Most thicker latex mattresses tend to do best with a foundation rather than a box spring.

The Mattress Store in Sarasota has a giant showroom full of "latex" mattresses, but I think most of these are hybrids, and there wasn't a lot of info about the specs of the models. Still, some of the hybrids (latex on soy foam or poly foam) were actually downright comfy and felt good.


You can read a little more about the pros and cons of a latex/polyfoam hybrid vs an all latex mattress in post #2 here .

There is also more information about so called "soy foam" and other "plant based" foam in post #2 here but they are just a version of polyfoam.

Online I have found that Flobeds looks like it has the same components as the OMI OrganicPedic beds at a much lower price, and they seem to have a pretty good Goldilocks guarantee. Also, the Zenhaven looks like it might be similar, they also have a nice return policy. After all that laying around I might just end up online...


I don't know what the specifics of the layers in the Pinnacle you tested were but Flobeds gives you the choice between 100% natural Talalay and blended Talalay. They would certainly make a great quality/value choice and their vZone is also somewhat unique in the industry because it allows you to customize both the layering and the zoning in the mattress but their layers and components and the overall design of their mattresses would be different from the Pinnacle.

You can see some comments about the Zenhaven mattress in post #2 here but it also has a completely different design than the Pinnacle. Of course they are also only one of many online latex options that are available to you.

Ends up Dunlopillo's site is within Sherwood Bedding. I found this page, most of the models have PDFs that describe the specs of the mattress club sandwich layers. www.sherwoodbedding.com/dunlopillo/
It ends up the Dunlopillos are mostly soy based foams on top. Not sure what that means for durability and all that...


Sherwood is the Dunlopillo licensee in the US but unfortunately the information they provide about them on their site is missing the most important information that you would need to know about their mattresses (see this article ) and particularly the thickness and density of each layer. Without knowing the density of any polyfoam layers in the mattress it's not possible to make any meaningful comments about the durability or useful life of the mattress or make meaningful comparisons with other mattresses and I would avoid any mattress by where this information wasn't readily available from a retailer that sells it.

Phoenix
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