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21 May 2022 15:18
  • NikkiTMU
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Hi Piticli.

I will start by saying I'm sorry you were unsatisfied with your topper product. But, your disdain and anger is misplaced and if you have an issue with a product, you should take it up with the company in question and not attack every small business under the sun *and* our forum because of it.

I'm alarmed at the strange reverse narrative you're preaching here. Many large retailers of all types (clothes, beds, food) are literally master storytellers. They bleed money into beefy marketing departments to sell you a narrative that their cheaply made, mass produced, foreign product with little regulation is going to solve x problem in your life. These large companies don't actually care about you as the consumer at all. It's not hard to find case after case of this. They have massive legal departments to protect them from lawsuits from angsty townspeople looking for a fight and they're virtually untouchable.

Small businesses don't have the luxury of a cheap assembly line, massive marketing team, and legal department. They thrive on quality, attention to the consumer, etc.

Here, the mattresses snobs have pure hatred to big companies, and not much knowledge about mattresses really


No one here overtly hates large companies. If you find a Sealy or whatever large brand product that you love, then good for you! We're happy when anyone comes to the forum, uses the *vast knowledge bank* we've curated for them to educate themselves, and makes an informed purchase based on testing and preference from ANY brand. Do we have brand we've personally vetted and feel more comfortable recommending? Absolutely. Does this mean we automatically think all companies who are not our personally vetted members are trash? Of course not. In fact, you'll find us discussing brands of all kinds - some we've never heard of until a consumer mentions them here - and even helping consumers navigate purchases with said companies.

Ultimately, we want the people who visit our forum to make the best decision they can for themselves. We have no desire to make that decision for them.

So, all of that to say, I'm sorry you're mad about your topper. If you want to fix the problem, you could manufacture your own that are up to par with your standards and if they're up to par with ours, maybe we'll even promote them here in the forum.

NikkiTMU
21 May 2022 05:09
  • Piticli
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Same thing happened to me, but I was lucky only lost $400 with a junk topper.
Yes, pure junk, that's what you'll find in most small companies. Small companies can't compete with well known ones, so their busines model is to scam people. It happens at pretty much every industry in the US.
Here, the mattresses snobs have pure hatred to big companies, and not much knowledge about mattresses really, and a total obsession in promoting all these small companies, more than likely because they get a kickback.
20 May 2022 07:01
  • Piticli
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Rockymountainmattress literally disappeared. No wonder... Despicable business. I got a "5lb topper" from them and less than a year later was like regular bouncy crappy foam. They didn't even acknowledge me lol. I'm sure I wasn't the first...
You know? I'm sorry to bring you the news, but really no small American company is going to come with a good product at a good price. They're all scammers. I bought my 5lb tempurpedic topper in 2019 and still going strong, like the first day, and it was $100 cheaper on sale vs the $400 rockymountainmattress garbage. I wish you guys stop recommending people to get scammed by a small local company that only sells garbage, all of them sell garbage or overpriced mattresses and toppers, no exception. When it comes to anything except for maybe food in some cases, small local companies are ought to scam you, that's the sad reality.
Just for the sake of having a talking point or pretend to know anything about mattresses, very harmful advices you guys give here many times...
20 May 2022 06:58
  • Piticli
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Rockymountainmattress literally disappeared. No wonder... Despicable business. I got a "5lb topper" from them and less than a year later was like regular bouncy crappy foam. They didn't even acknowledge me lol. I'm sure I wasn't the first...
You know? I'm sorry to bring you the news, but really no small American company is going to come with a good product at a good price. They're all scammers. I bought my 5lb tempurpedic topper in 2019 and still going strong, like the first day, and it was $100 cheaper on sale vs the $400 rockymountainmattress garbage. I wish you guys stop recommending people to get scammed by a small local company that only sells garbage, all of them sell garbage or overpriced mattresses and toppers, no exception. When it comes to anything except for maybe food in some cases, small local companies are ought to scam you, that's the sad reality.
Just for the sake of having a talking point or pretend to know anything about mattresses, very harmful advices you guys give here many times...
21 Mar 2022 14:35
  • Frosty
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Hi Nikki, unfortunately it looks like sleepwarehouse might be dead. Their website URL doesn't work, their twitter hasn't been updated since 2015 and their Facebook page since 2018. Rockymountainmattress appears to only sell in-store in Canada and I'm in the US with the only site information I can find being their Facebook page. Do you know of any other online retailers I might try out?
21 Mar 2022 08:46
  • NikkiTMU
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Hi Frosty.

Sorry for the delayed reply! Phoenix cautions against using Foam By Mail and suggests reading this post and this post and this topic (about their polyfoam and sources) and this post (presumably from a past employee) before buying anything from Foam by Mail (AKA FBM and Foam Factory) or considering them as a reliable supplier.

Rockymountainmattress and sleepwarehouse have been used successfully by other members in the past searching for 5 lb memory foam toppers.

NikkiTMU
29 Apr 2019 16:55
  • Piticli
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So I did not get a reply from Rocky Mountain Mattress. Zero help. Definitely I would not recommend to anyone to buy from them; they seem to be a bunch of scammers. Barely no reviews, and the ones they have are mostly bad. I remember having problems with shipping too. They didn't even had stock of the product, and ordered through other company. Again, stay away from them. This company doesn't deserve the hype that has been given in this website.
28 Apr 2019 14:31
  • Piticli
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Hi again! I just wanted to leave an update over a year later.
The mattress still fine, but the topper got alzheimer's. The topper lost all the memory foam properties. I was wondering why the mattress started to feel uncomfortable. Well I took the cover and the "incredible" 2 inch 5lb Aerus Plus topper, when I press on it, bounces back super quickly as regular foam would. I would never thought that something that expensive would last that little.
I asked for help at rocky mountain but I don't think I'm going to get any help from them, based in their "guarantee" terms.
After many different memory foam mattresses, I'm starting to think that the only thing that is worth out there is tempurpedic.
Maybe others have been lucky with this topper. I wonder if others had my same problem. I would definitely not recommend to anyone to buy this topper.
10 Jan 2019 00:10
  • 560andrising
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3. Rocky Mountain Mattress has some excellent looking mattresses that do use all higher density materials, like the Brighton (4 inches of 5 lb memory foam over 6.5" of Ultracel™ U3000 foam which I believe is 2.5lb?). Doesnt really say if its soft, medium or firm but I can call them for details. 90 day trial period is fine, but to return it you need to repack it in box and pay an undisclosed amount for return shipping.


I spoke to a rep from Rocky Mountain Mattress yesterday and confirmed that their poly foam base layer is 1.8 lb density. I think the 2.5 is a reference to some sort of scale that they don't go into enough detail about on their website. I think the RMM mattresses with the 5 lb memory foam are still one of the better options for heavier folks, as the 1.8 poly foam base is the only suspect link. With companies like Novosbed and Foamorder moving away from 5 lb memory foam to lower densities, it's good to see that RMM remains an option for folks with a little more body weight than the average individual.
10 Jan 2019 00:03
  • 560andrising
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Off the top of my head ... Novosbed (in their medium firmness level), Rocky Mountain Mattress, Tempflow, Foamorder, and Christeli all make at least one or more mattresses that use 5 lb or higher memory foam but you would need to check their websites or talk to them to find out how they compared to any of the Tempurpedic mattresses.
Phoenix

I spoke with Novosbed on the phone yesterday and was informed that they have adjusted their specs, as follows:

Firm Mattress
3” 2.5 lb memory foam
1” 4 lb memory foam
7” 1.75 lb poly foam

Medium Mattress
1" 1.95 lb premium airflow foam
1" 4 lb memory foam
2" 4 lb memory foam
7" 1.75 lb poly foam

In addition, Foamoarder stated they have switched from 5.3 lb foam to 4.5 lb foam in all versions of their foam mattress. Both Foamorder and Novsobed have yet to reflect these changes on their website, so I wanted to make sure the word was out in case prospective buyers choose to order directly from the company websites without first consulting a rep from the companies to confirm densities.

The list of 5 lb memory foam mattress producers in the value range seems to be getting shorter. I am awaiting details about current specs from Christeli and am hoping all is good so I can lock one down in the next few days. Christeli recently informed me that they no longer disclose their density specs but a sales rep is doing her best to try and get the info for me. Fingers crossed! Most of the remaining 5 lb+ companies have somewhat stricter return policies (Tempflow, OMF).
09 Jan 2019 17:43
  • 560andrising
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Thank you, MFC! I'd finally gotten to the point where I was okay with a 5.3-lb-only comfort layer instead of a comfort layer that included an inch or two of 6 lb or higher foam. From Novosbed to Foamorder, my dreams keep getting shot down, haha!

Foamorder reports that they are switching manufacturers and even though their site is not yet updated, they are already producing mattresses with 4.5 lb foam. So, no more 5.3 there either.

Christeli is taking days to get back to me about their density and seems to have notes from their engineer that conflict with the order of their layering. These notes also do not list densities, so they are checking on it. I was also told by one rep that the Charleston is less firm than the Daniel, while another rep told me the exact opposite. With their lack of a refund policy, I am starting to get sketched out by them as well.

I've emailed Lake Mattress & Furniture to see if they will still make a "My Luxury Mattress", which had 4" of 5 lb foam. Not even sure if it was ever a medium-firm style but I'm running out of power to choose.

Rocky Mountain Mattress reports that their poly foam base is 1.8 lb. They also do not know the density of their 1.5" Ultracel Supersoft Foam, which is the top layer of their Brighton mattress. Even with the 1.8 ln poly foam density, at 225 pounds, I'd rather not go this route since the customer pays for return shipping. It's a decent option and fairly inexpensive at around $1400 to $1600 (queen vs king), but it's still tough to fork that over when you have to pay for return shipping and are unsure of how a reportedly medium firmness will feel. We're going for medium-firm (Rhapsody Luxe would be ideal).

Tempflow is quite intriguing but is quite expensive and a potential refund has original shipping and tax deducted, and customer pays for return shipping. Definitely not one to be unsure of.

That leaves the OMF Serenity. This one has 1.5” of 8 lb memory foam and 2.5” of 5 lb memory foam with a 6” 2.25 lb poly foam support base. Absolutely ideal, assuming it is the right firmness and feel. Alas, they do not do refunds or exchanges. I've read on this site about the possibility of them charging 25% of the least expensive of the returned item and the exchanged item but this would mean you have to like one of their other options. We're not looking for innerspring or latex and they have no other 100% memory foam/poly foam options.

So... I'm feeling stuck. I do a lot of thorough research when I buy most items but this is one instance in which I've gone above and beyond. I'd been on the phone, written emails, and read just about every thread I could related to the various mattresses in question. I don't know what else I can do at this point, outside of losing 50 pounds, making 4 lb density foam a durable option. Not really sure what we're gonna do, but I am done researching for now. We may have to just stick with our too-soft mattress until I can get over the immense amount of time I feel I've wasted, lol.

Honestly, the easiest thing to do would be the one thing I am trying so hard to avoid: buy the damn Rhapsody Luxe for way too much money.

Any suggestions are welcome. I'm 225 pounds and the wife is 190 pounds. We need higher density foam and it seems it is somewhat being phased out of mattresses from companies with less-costly sleep trial periods. All of that being said, this website has been a wealth of information and I truly do appreciate all of the knowledge contained within. It shouldn't be this hard to buy a mattress, tough, lol!
27 Jul 2018 10:23
  • matressjunkie
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Rocky Mountain Mattress emailed to tell me that AerusPlus mem foam is no longer available from the manufacturer.
27 Jan 2018 02:31
  • phoenix
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Hi hoyt.

All the adjustable beds are good quality and reliable and some manufacturers are assembling their power foundations in the USA but most of their products are using imported components (or at least the motors). I don’t keep a list of companies that assemble their products in the USA vs importing the power foundations already assembled, this is a question that you can ask each of the retailers/manufacturers you are considering or you can ask some of the experts of our site who have their main area of expertize in foundations and adjustable beds.

There is more information about choosing an adjustable bed in post #3 here and the main adjustable bed topic that it links to that can help you choose an adjustable bed based on price vs features comparisons and also includes some retailers that you can use as good sources of information about the features of the adjustable beds they carry and as pricing references as well (in post #6 in the main adjustable bed topic). Of course there are many other sources as well and prices can change on a regular basis so I would also include some internet searching in your research. I would also keep in mind that online advertised prices are often price controlled so make sure you call the stores you are considering to find out their best prices rather than just looking at websites.

I would consider all the major adjustable bed manufacturers to be closely comparable in terms of reliability so I would use price and feature comparisons to choose between them.

I would also give some careful consideration to the type of features that you may find useful over a longer period of time because some of the features they offer may seem very "enticing" when you are shopping but some people may find that they don't use them as much as they thought they would once the novelty has worn off.

There are also some comments about extended warranties for adjustable beds in this topic that may be helpful.

The adjustable bed thread here has some examples and comparisons of some of the more common types and manufacturers of adjustable beds and some sources for each that you can use as a "value reference" for a purchase. If you don’t want to drive 75+ miles then you ca consider some of our online site members who ship power bases include:

I look forward to hear what you may decide.

Phoenix
19 Jan 2018 09:14
  • MattressToGo
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Nowhisky,

I'm not Phoenix, but here's a little information that may be helpful to you.

Here’s a spec sheet on the Aerus Plus memory foam. While there are different formulations, it is one of the newer generation memory foams with more of an open cell structure and it’s supposed to be more responsive to temperature, more breathable, better at heat management and more durable than previous memory foam versions. This tends to be the direction that many memory foam producers are headed currently in the industry, along with producing some of the higher density very plush polyurethane foams that have some of the pressure relieving characteristics of memory foam with very little if any of the temperature-sensitive or changes in viscosity.

Rocky Mountain lists the IFD of their Aerus at a 14 ILD, but all memory foam will generally be in this low teen to upper teen IFD range. The IFD of memory foam is difficult to accurately test, as there has to be strict controls on temperature, humidity and time holding the measurement and time allowed for recovery.

I’m not familiar with the specific brand/type of memory foam offered by BB, but they say it is comparable to the Aerus Plus but a bit more “medium” in feel.

Both items should provide quite good plushness in a 3” version and would lack the resilience found in a softer latex layer.

Jeff Scheuer, The Beducator
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18 Jan 2018 18:54
  • Nowhisky
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Hi Phoenix,

Again, thank you for all of the useful information. After reading various posts and considering the different options I am leaning toward a memory foam topper. I feel like the support provided by the Nirvana is good but it is missing the pressure relief for me that I believe will be best achieved through memory foam. Is this a reasonable conclusion based on the information I have provided? I feel like the Latex topper I tried did not allow me to "sink in" enough to provide the pressure relief that I need.

The two toppers I am considering are listed below.

Option #1: 5 lb. Memory Foam Topper from Brooklyn Bedding (mattresstopper.com)
Option #2: Aerus Plus Memory Foam Topper from Rocky Mountain Mattress (rockymountainmattress.com)

Both toppers are constructed using 5 lb memory foam but I am having a difficult time comparing the two by anything else other than price which the Brooklyn Bedding topper would win by a mile. Do you know of any other specifications by which I can compare these two? Also, are there other memory foam options I should be considering?

Kind Regards,
Nowhisky
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