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10 Feb 2014 00:15
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After 2-3 weeks of reading forum posts here and all of Phoenix's great advice, I finally purchased my mattress from Christeli aka Luxepedic aka Park Place. I bought the Briella model, which is supposed to approximate the Tempur-pedic Cloud Luxe model. Here's a rundown of the Briella:
  • 1" or so of a quilted aloe vera cover with "tufting" which is probably polyester fibers- verified by Christeli not to affect the "feel" of the memory foam at all
  • 5" of 5.3lb memory foam
Below the above comfort layer is a separate adjustable firmness "Ortho-Core" support half. It's 2lbs in density, has edge support and has an additional layer on the bottom and top, which I am assuming vary in density and can adjust the "feel" of the mattress slightly to fine tune it. I really liked that aspect of this mattress and seemed pretty genius. Granted, it probably won't be a dramatic difference, but should be enough for someone who wishes there mattress was just a *little* firmer or softer.

Based on reviews online, this forum, and my research, the composition of the mattress is actually closer to a discontinued Tempur-pedic model called "The Celebrity" (also 5" of 5.3lb) than the actual Cloud Luxe (2.75" of 5.3lb and 2" of 7lb), but I will get a feel of the mattress once I receive it this week. Not 100% sure why Tempur-pedic discontinued "The Celebrity" though, which is a little discouraging, but should overall meet my needs.

I also took your advice and bought the Sleep Suite Organic Cotton mattress protector and think its sleeping pretty cool so far on my current mattress.

Will update this with my review after I receive the mattress this week. Stay tuned!
05 Feb 2014 20:16
  • phoenix
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Hi augeydoggy,

Off the top of my head It sounds like you could be referring to Christeli (which used to be called Luxepedic) but they only make memory foam mattresses although some do have latex support layers.

Phoenix
29 Oct 2013 15:23
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Hi swanlake,

You are asking some very complex questions and unfortunately there are no specific answers that can predict your experience with a certain mattress / topper combination with any degree of certainty outside of your own personal testing or experience.

The density of memory foam is mostly connected to it's durability and not as much to how it "feels" ... and each type of memory foam regardless of density uses a different chemical formula that can change it's response, feel and performance compared to others (see post #9 here and post #8 here ). Having said that ... higher density memory foam often "feels" firmer (whether it actually is or not) and tends to be a little slower responding than lower density memory foams. If you are considering Christelli then it may be a good idea to talk with them and ask how their memory foam compares in different ways to the Tempurpedic version in terms of response time, temperature sensitivity, and overall firmness/softness if you are looking for a version of memory foam that is close to the feel and response of Tempurpedic (which tends to be more temperature sensitive and slower responding than many other memory foams).

In most cases ... the best use of a topper is to increase the softness of the surface layers and improve pressure relief and not so much to improve support/alignment which is mostly a function of the deeper layers in a mattress in combination with the thickness and softness of the comfort layers. Thicker and softer comfort layers are generally more risky in terms of alignment ... especially with memory foam. Memory foam can change in firmness over the course of the night and if the memory foam layers are too thick you can start off in good alignment but wake up out of alignment as the deeper layers can soften over time and as temperature "reaches" the deeper layers. You can read more about the relationship between primary and secondary support and pressure relief in post #2 here and post #8 here has some subjective guidelines for choosing a topper based on how much extra softness you believe your mattress needs.

The feel and response of a topper will also be affected by the type and condition of the materials that are in the top layers of your mattress because every layer of your sleeping system will have an effect on all the other layers to some degree. If there are soft spots or any sagging in your mattress that is causing alignment issues or if your mattress is already too soft then a topper generally isn't the most effective solution to correct it. I would also keep in mind that back and especially stomach sleepers tend to do better with thinner / firmer comfort layers that let you sleep closer to the support layers of the mattress.

The 5 inches of worn out foam seems to let that heat get all the way down to my TP comfort layer so that was confusing.


This may be because the TP comfort layer has softened more over time than because the heat is reaching it. Some of your body heat will reach it as well but it would take more time over the course of the night and would be to a lesser degree than if you were sleeping directly on the same layer. Some types of memory foam are also less temperature sensitive and change less with different temperatures.

I know nothing about Christeli except for someone saying something positive here.


You can read more about Christelli (they used to be called Luxepedic) in post #4 here .

I have learned not to get less than 5lb density so if I want a custom made cover, it is one of these. Taking ideas. Thank you if you read through this. I could not figure out how to be concise on the fly. Thanks to all.


Unless you are in a heavier weight range where durability is a bigger issue then some 4 lb memory foams can also make a very good topper choice that in some cases can be more effective than a 5 lb memory foam.

I know this probably doesn't give you the specific answers you are looking for (because there are too many variables and unknowns for anyone to know with any certainty) but a topper choice depends more on "best judgement" based on the information you have available and your own experience on your mattress along with your confidence that the choice you make will be the most effective option based on more detailed conversations with each supplier than anything else. The exchange or return policies of a purchase can be an important consideration as well so that you still have options available if your choice doesn't turn out to be ideal for you.

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06 Aug 2013 13:43
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Hi thebeerbaron83,

Christeli used to be called Luxepedic and their mattresses are made by Park Place which is an old and independent manufacturer that typically makes better quality and value mattresses compared to most of the larger mainstream choices. They are over 80 years old and still owned by the same family that founded them.

A forum search on Luxepedic or Christeli (you can just click these) will bring up more information about them that has evolved over time as they have continued to improve their mattresses and the information and service they provide to their customers.

The Christeli mattresses have an innovative modular design (topper and base mattress) that use good quality materials (5 and 8 lb memory foam, 2 lb polyfoam, and latex) and are good quality and value. In my conversations with them, especially recently, I also found them to be knowledgeable, transparent, and informative. They are certainly among some of the better online memory foam choices available. You can see some of the other online memory foam sources that I also consider to be among the better quality, value, and service choices in post #12 here .

The return policy says they will pay for the return shipping, but I have to roll and repackage the mattress in the original box and drop it off at a Fedex location. They told me over the phone when I bought it, they roll it by hand and package it. I have read other post from you saying this is typically done by a machine. Is repackaging this going to be a difficult task?


They roll their own mattresses by hand without compression for shipping and they have told me that their customers that do end up returning their mattresses typically don't have any problems rolling it up, putting it in the box, and delivering it to the courier. They don't require the original box (you can purchase a new one if you need to) and for those few customers that do have any difficulties then a phone call will usually give you some suggestions that will help.

Phoenix
31 Jul 2013 15:46
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Hi just1chancefree,

is there anything at all you could recommend at more like $350? $500 would probably be a max :(


I don't make specific recommendations for mattresses because there are just too many unknowns and variables for anyone to know which mattress may be suitable for someone else in terms of PPP. I'm happy to help you narrow down your options somewhat though and help with how to choose (including avoiding any memory foam that is under @4 lbs density or so).

If you aren't able to test a mattress personally then the only other way that you would have a reasonable expectation of making a suitable choice is with more detailed conversations with the manufacturer or retailer themselves who can use their experience and knowledge of their mattresses to give you some good guidance based on "averages" of people that have a similar body type and sleeping style (assuming they are knowledgeable and experienced). No matter what the quality, value, or price of a mattress ... if it isn't suitable for you and you can't sleep on it then it would have little value to you.

There are a couple of manufacturers on the list which have mattresses that are under $500 (mattress only in queen) that would be worth talking to. They are ...

Dreamfoam on Amazon

Restava

In addition to this it may also be worth considering the Sams Club 12" Aerus mattress here although they won't be able to give you any guidance about whether the mattress may be suitable for you and the base layer is less than 1.5 lbs.

Luxepedic is another manufacturer that will be going on the memory foam list and has a mattress that is in your budget range that may be worth considering as well.

There are hundreds of memory foam mattresses and retailers that sell "cheap" memory foam mattresses but most of them are involved in a race to the bottom in terms of both price and the quality of their materials and if they don't meet the guidelines I listed (and have the integrity that you can believe what they tell you) I wouldn't consider any of them. Most of them aren't worth the money you pay for them. In many cases they list misleading or completely inaccurate information and comparisons and are often sold by people who know little about mattresses or the quality of their materials but know a lot about how to make a large profit selling cheap materials that have a high profit margin and can't realistically be returned because of the high cost of return shipping.

Reasonable quality memory foam is a higher cost material than polyfoam and in your budget range it may also be worth considering a polyfoam mattress that uses high quality polyfoam (at least 1.8 lbs and preferably higher) that can be both comfortable, lower cost, and much more durable than cheap memory foam.

There may also be some local manufacturers close to you that have good quality/value mattresses in your price range as well (see post #3 here for an example of another member that purchased a good quality and value mattress in your price range from a local manufacturer)

Phoenix
11 Jun 2013 00:33
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Hi msrozz,

The first place i would start with your mattress research is post #1 here which has all the basic information, steps, and guidelines you will need to make the most suitable choices.

A mattress is only as good as the quality of the construction and materials that are inside it and I would be cautious with the Vivon and make sure you know the density of all the layers it uses and meets the memory foam guidelines in post #10 here . They are made by a Chinese manufacturer called Zinus which also makes other brands (including Spa Sensations, Keetsa, Night Therapy, Spirit Sleep and others) which tend to use some lower quality/density memory foam.

Christeli is made by Park Place (they used to be called Luxepedic) which is a long term US manufacturer and they use good quality materials and have good value. They also have a very interesting modular design. It would allow you to just replace the topper instead of the whole mattress because the comfort layers are generally the "weak link" of a mattress and will tend to soften and break down more quickly than the deeper layers. They are also CertiPur certified.

Either way though ... I would always do some local testing so you have some good reference points as far as PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) before considering the higher risk of an online purchase where you can't test the mattress before you purchase it (and I would also keep in mind that other people's experience on a mattress has little to do with how it may feel for you because of differences in body type, sleeping style, and individual preferences).

Phoenix
01 May 2013 13:30
  • ebduda
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Looks like we are going to get the Wellington by Luxepedic. Just love the feel of the tempur pedic cloud Luxe and they seem to have make a great duplicate.
30 Apr 2013 21:11
  • phoenix
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Hi triton0226,

Thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed review.

Park Place is certainly doing a good job with their Luxepedic brand (soon to change its name apparently). NOTE: now changed to Christeli)

You did some great research, learned a lot along the way, narrowed down your options to choices between good and good ... and in the end made a good quality/value choice that was the best match for your criteria and your personal value equation.

That sounds like a successful mattress purchase to me!

Congratulations on your new mattress ... and I'm looking forward to your feedback when you've had the chance to sleep on it. :)

Phoenix
27 Mar 2013 17:21
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Hi Angnjam,

You mentioned Pure Latex Bliss, but I thought I read on the forum that you weren't a big fan of that line, am I wrong? I have tested the PLB Elegance at the Healthy Back store (which is the only latex bed I've tried so far) and liked it, which I think is the same as the "Beautiful" mattress on the Pure Latex Bliss site but given a new name for the Healthy Back Store, if I'm not mistaken. If you think they are a quality line, I will reconsider them.


To me the quality of a mattress has little to do with who makes it and puts their label on the mattress and more to do with the materials and components inside it. having said that ... Pure Latex Bliss uses high quality materials in all their mattresses with no "weak links" and I think they are among the better national brands available. Their "value" depends on the price they are selling for and on any of the other benefits that come with dealing with a particular retailer but in very general terms I would put them in the "better than average" value range but usually not in the "best" value range. The value of any mattress depends on all the factors in your own personal value equation that are most important to you which of course includes the relative price of the mattress compared to others that use similar materials and components in similar amounts and on the suitability of a mattress for your needs and preferences. Post #2 here has more about the combination of quality, durability, value, and suitability that are part of deciding which mattress is best for you.

With regards to your comments on Luxepedic, what do you feel the density of their bottom layer should consist of (if I can find out)? And do you feel like the other layers they have on the Wellington mattress are good quality?


The minimum density support layer that I would consider acceptable in most cases (except for temporary or lower budget mattresses where some compromises need to be made) would be 1.8 lb polyfoam (1.5 in low budget choices with good quality foam on top). Higher is better of course in terms of durability and more resilient and higher performing grades of polyfoam are also better regardless of their density. In terms of density, the memory foam appears to be good quality (5 lbs and up is considered to be good quality) but again I would want to confirm that the memory foam was either CertiPur certified or at least made in the US. Sometimes memory foam that has higher density but is in lower cost mattresses (particularly that are made in Asia) have fillers in it that makes the density and quality appear to be higher than it is and will degrade the durability of the material. NOTE: They are now Certipur certified so this would remove any concern I had about their materials)

It looks like SavvyRest is a good option close by me to try out latex mattresses. Thank you for that info.


They are certainly a good place to test different layering combinations for latex however they also can carry a significantly higher price than other mattresses that have a similar design and materials.

Also, I have found FloridaMattressCenters.com (NewBedsDirect.com is their name on eBay, which has an A+ rating on Better Business Bureau) sells their line and I called and talked to them and they are very knowledgable and they sell the PLB line as well as the Ergomotion adjustable bed line. Your thoughts about going thru them? Even if I purchased thru their eBay store, they said the warranty from manufacturer is honored.


Golden Carolina Mattress or Florida Mattress Centers or Carolina Mattress Factory (and a few others) started out as a factory direct outlet for Carolina Mattress Guild but no longer carry them and are now carrying several alternative brands including the Pure Latex Bliss that you mentioned and several other better value smaller manufacturers including Sherwood, Classic Brands, Innomax, Boyd, and Octaspring in addition to some major brands which I would avoid. They have a retail outlet in Navarre. They have many other URL's that sometimes come and go that lead back to them (what they call vanity sites) but like any other retailer I would make my buying decision based on the quality/value of their mattresses, on the knowledge and service of the retailer, and on any other benefits that come with dealing with a particular manufacturer. In my conversation with them they were certainly knowledgeable about mattresses and the industry in general.

Phoenix
27 Mar 2013 11:42
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Thank you so much for your quick reply, Phoenix.

You mentioned Pure Latex Bliss, but I thought I read on the forum that you weren't a big fan of that line, am I wrong? I have tested the PLB Elegance at the Healthy Back store (which is the only latex bed I've tried so far) and liked it, which I think is the same as the "Beautiful" mattress on the Pure Latex Bliss site but given a new name for the Healthy Back Store, if I'm not mistaken. If you think they are a quality line, I will reconsider them.

With regards to your comments on Luxepedic, what do you feel the density of their bottom layer should consist of (if I can find out)? And do you feel like the other layers they have on the Wellington mattress are good quality?

It looks like SavvyRest is a good option close by me to try out latex mattresses. Thank you for that info.

Also, I have found FloridaMattressCenters.com (NewBedsDirect.com is their name on eBay, which has an A+ rating on Better Business Bureau) sells their line and I called and talked to them and they are very knowledgable and they sell the PLB line as well as the Ergomotion adjustable bed line. Your thoughts about going thru them? Even if I purchased thru their eBay store, they said the warranty from manufacturer is honored.

You have been super helpful. Thanks again.
27 Mar 2013 09:11
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Hi Angnjam,

Post #2 here has some of the better options and possibilities in and around the DC area that I'm aware of and there are certainly some good latex options that you could test.

You can see some of my thoughts about Luxepedic in post #9 here . They may have a dimilar 'feel' to the Tempurpedic Cloud Luxe but the layering is different and they don't show the density of the base layer so I would want to know that as well.

The SelectFoam Cirrus Luxe ES (which is double the price of Luxepedic's bed).


As you know they are a member here which means that I think they are among the best quality/value in the country. They use some premium foams in their mattresses and they also take more than usual care to match or exceed the layering, quality, design, and "feel" of the Tempurpedic line. Of course higher cost materials and design means that they are also not the lowest price available either for those who are strictly price shopping.

The Diamond Mattress Ethos Natural Peace Plush.


Diamond is a wholesale manufacturer who is making some "better than average" quality mattresses and I would certainly consider them if you can find out the details of all the layers. you can see more of my thoughts about them in post #2 here .

SleepEZ 10,000 top to bottom soft, medium, firm all talalay latex.


SleepEz is also a member here which means that I consider them to be among the best quality/value in the country and they have a wide range of latex mattresses where you can choose the firmness and type of all the layers.

Are these mattresses too soft to hold up for 15-20 years or to give our aching lower backs and shoulders the support they need?


The durability of a mattress depends on many factors and is relative to the person sleeping on it. You can read more about durability in post #4 here and the post it links to. 15 to 20 may be stretching it with any soft foam ... particularly if its not latex ... but depending on the degree of "room" you have left yourself with your comfort choice for foam softening and on the type of materials in your mattress 10 + would be within reason for most people.

In your opinion, would latex or memory foam be more durable in a soft feeling mattress?


Overall latex is the most durable of all the 3 categories of foam (latex, polyfoam, memory foam).

Temecula is somewhat "in between" seveal lists on the forum but the better options that are within reasonable drivind distance would be listed in the San Diego / Escondido list and the Los Angeles list and the San Bernardino list and Palm Springs here (some choices in each direction :)).

Phoenix
27 Mar 2013 01:46
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Hi Pheonix,

I am really wanting to try out some latex mattresses near Fairfax, VA. My zip is 22124. Can you give me some places that will let me try some latex mattresses so I can see if I like them. I like the feel of the Tempur-Pedic Cloud Luxe, but I really would like to see if I would like latex as well. My husband is 6'2" and 200 lbs while I am 5'7 and 125 lbs. We are looking at getting a California King so my husband's feet don't hang off the end of the bed. :)

Also we are considering a couple options that we've researched. Luxepedic's Wellington memory foam bed which they claim to be similar to the Tempurpedic cloud Luxe. The SelectFoam Cirrus Luxe ES (which is double the price of Luxepedic's bed). The Diamond Mattress Ethos Natural Peace Plush. SleepEZ 10,000 top to bottom soft, medium, firm all talalay latex. And we are looking at the Ergomotion Ergo 400 adjustable base for whichever bed we choose. Do you have an opinion about these mattress/bed options?

Are these mattresses too soft to hold up for 15-20 years or to give our aching lower backs and shoulders the support they need?

In your opinion, would latex or memory foam be more durable in a soft feeling mattress?

Also, I am also interested in places to get mattresses for a family member near Temecula, CA 92592 as well. Thanks so much for your help. I love your site and it has given me so much advice and information already.
21 Feb 2013 21:14
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Hi jaswhite,

I believe they purchased the memoryfoam.com site from Mark quite some time ago.

Post #2 here also talks about some of the questions you have mentioned.

You can also see some of their other sites (including Brickell which is their bricks and mortar store in Florida) in the members list here . I'm not sure why having multiple sites with a different focus would be an issue.

You could probably get better answers directly from them (and they'd be happy to address any of your questions) but I'll make a few comments as "poor substitute".

1. Their memoryfoam.com site and brickell mattress sites both don't talk about the infused gel beads that are listed on the selectfoam.com site, yet the mattresses are called the same thing. Example: "The Medium firmness Select Foam 13" Aurora HD™ mattress has a thick SELECT-HD pillowtop for soothing comfort, support, and pressure relief. Infused with Gel Beads, the Aurora HD™ sleeps up to 3x cooler than its counterpart, the Tempur-Pedic AlluraBed."


The memoryfoam.com site has their previous lineup that used memory foam and the selectfoam.com site has their new lineup that uses gel memory foam which is a more recent introduction. The Select Foam site is the "correct" one with their up to date information.

2. When I asked if they could send me a small square sample of their foam, their response was they couldn't afford to be sending samples out. I accepted this but not sure if I buy it as I've been able to receive samples from other companies, such as the old memoryfoam.com (Mark) as well as Luxepedic etc. So this just didn't sit very well with me.


Some manufacturers may do this and some don't. I don't think most consumers would have the knowledge to be able to tell good memory foam from bad anyway to really make it worthwhile and in their case you have a money back guarantee with return shipping paid which would be a much more meaningful test than any small sample (which would tell you nothing about how a mattress sleeps) so perhaps it made more sense to them to go in this direction and not add the cost of packaging and shipping free samples into the mattress (or somewhere). This is a business decision that each business would make based on their thoughts about whether something makes sense to them from a business and cost point of view and like all business decisions some may think differently than others. The same would hold true about other options or benefits that each manufacture chooses to offer that other manufacturers may not because they each may believe differently about whether the cost justifies the benefit.

3. When researching them on BBB, I see they are not BBB accredited and the only thing I could find on BBB was an F rating.
www.bbb.org/south-east-florida/business-...biscayne-fl-92006966


Besides the post I linked earlier, you can see some of my thoughts about the BBB in post #4 here (and post #3 before it with another members experience with them) and post #4 here (both of which talked about Select Foam). One of the other members of this site for years refused to become a member of the BBB on principle alone (many businesses don't think highly of the BBB and their methods at all) and had an "F" rating because of one complaint that they didn't even know about. Once they became a member ... their rating changed from an F to an A overnight. This is "normal procedure" for the BBB.

So these are all red flags to me. If it wasn't for your site vouching for the company I would immediately write them off as an option. Anyway I was curious if you could provide me with any additional insight? I didn't want to post this on the forum as I don't want to post anything bad about a company when I don't have all the facts.


I don't consider anything you have posted as 'bad" or something that shouldn't be on the forum. Buying a website from someone else that they believed would help their business or introducing a new mattress line with similar specs and feel as the old one and keeping the name for consistency would not be issues for me. I can understand how some people who don't really know how the BBB works could consider this an issue (unless they look at the low number of unresolved complaints) but each of us needs to decide what is most important to us and what to pay attention to as part of our own "value equation". For me, how businesses deal with the inevitable complaints they have (some justified and some not) and how they deal with the issues and challenges that come up in any business provides much more insight into the business and people than some of the things you mentioned but each of us as individuals may have different ideas about how to decide who to deal with.

Last question, are there any other companies that would have beds similar to tempurpedic? I went to a mattress firm and I really like the rhapsody breeze (i like the cooling), regular rhapsody or the aurora. I know these both have a combo of the 7lb foam and the 5.3 lb, and some of the vendors I see if you've posted appear to be either latex only or just have the 5.3 lb foam.


There are many ways a mattress could be 'similar to Tempurpedic". One of these is the "feel" of a mattress which may use different materials. Another is the design of a mattress that may use the same quality/density materials and layering but have a very different feel. Many online merchants compare themselves to Tempurpedic simply because they know that consumers think that 'memory foam is memory foam" and they can get away with it. Some manufacturers are "similar" in both design and layering and feel which would be Select Foam (they refine their mattresses based on the feedback they get from their customers in side by side testing at Brickell where they are both on the floor).

A few of the better options for online memory foam mattresses are in post #12 here and if you call some of these most of them could tell you which of their mattresses are most similar to various Tempurpedic models and some may even be able to custom build a memory foam mattress with any layering you wish. Of course there are many more than this small list but they are some of the ones that meet my memory foam criteria in post #10 here and I believe have good quality/value.

Phoenix
21 Feb 2013 16:18
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Hey Phoenix,

I was close to taking the plunge for selectfoam, however I did a ton of research last night and it's left me a bit wary. I know they are on the approved vendor list, but I see they have selectfoam.com, memoryfoam.com (which used to be owned by a guy named Mark I almost did business with back in 2006 or so), and some other site regarding an IQ bed, and then of course the Brickel Mattress site.

I'm a bit concerned because of a few things.

1. Their memoryfoam.com site and brickell mattress sites both don't talk about the infused gel beads that are listed on the selectfoam.com site, yet the mattresses are called the same thing. Example: "The Medium firmness Select Foam 13" Aurora HD™ mattress has a thick SELECT-HD pillowtop for soothing comfort, support, and pressure relief. Infused with Gel Beads, the Aurora HD™ sleeps up to 3x cooler than its counterpart, the Tempur-Pedic AlluraBed."

2. When I asked if they could send me a small square sample of their foam, their response was they couldn't afford to be sending samples out. I accepted this but not sure if I buy it as I've been able to receive samples from other companies, such as the old memoryfoam.com (Mark) as well as Luxepedic etc. So this just didn't sit very well with me.

3. When researching them on BBB, I see they are not BBB accredited and the only thing I could find on BBB was an F rating.
www.bbb.org/south-east-florida/business-reviews/mattresses-and-bedding-wholesale/select-foam-in-key-biscayne-fl-92006966

So these are all red flags to me. If it wasn't for your site vouching for the company I would immediately write them off as an option. Anyway I was curious if you could provide me with any additional insight? I didn't want to post this on the forum as I don't want to post anything bad about a company when I don't have all the facts.

Last question, are there any other companies that would have beds similar to tempurpedic? I went to a mattress firm and I really like the rhapsody breeze (i like the cooling), regular rhapsody or the aurora. I know these both have a combo of the 7lb foam and the 5.3 lb, and some of the vendors I see if you've posted appear to be either latex only or just have the 5.3 lb foam.

Thanks!
13 Dec 2012 06:15
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Hi TeeD15,

The first thing I would suggest is to read post #1 here and the information it links to. This will give you some basic information which will help you ask better questions and help you with what to look for and help you decide on the type of materials that you prefer (for example you are looking at memory foam and latex which are very different and one of the first steps would be to decide which you prefer).

Besides gathering some basic information about materials and mattresses ... the next most important step is to eliminate the worst choices and then focus on finding the better manufacturers and retailers in your area who can help you make the best choices that are not only suitable to your specific needs and preferences but have good quality and value.

A mattress is only as good as it's components and materials so no matter where you buy from it's important to make sure you know every layer that is in a mattress you are considering. This is the only way to make meaningful comparisons between mattresses. Without this you are making a "blind" purchase no matter who you are buying from.

I'd be happy to give you my thoughts about the Lebeda but you would need to find out all the layers and the quality of the materials inside it so I know what is inside the mattress. They should be able to provide this for you.

Luxepedic (NOTE: now called Christeli) is owned by Park Place which is a larger manufacturer that is family owned and has been in business for a long time (since 1931). Like with the Lebeda though ... it's important to know all the layers in a mattress (layer thickness and materials) you are considering and much of this is missing from their site so you would need to call and ask about the layering of the Geneva in order to make comparisons with other mattresses. You can also see the criteria I suggest when you are considering a memory foam mattress in post #10 here . As you can see I would want to make sure they are Certipur certified (or at least use American made foam) and know all the details of the layers including the densities of the foam they use (not just the memory foam).

SleepEz is a member of this site and they are among the best of the best in the country. If you are looking at a latex mattress they are certainly among your best choices if you are looking online. They use great quality materials from top to bottom of their mattress (either Talalay latex or Dunlop latex depending on your preferences). Their materials and layering are fully transparent and are on their site.

since there is no formula that can match body weight/height and sleeping positions to a mattress ... there are really only two ways to know if a mattress may be suitable for you. One is to test the mattress in person (or a mattress that is very similar if you are looking at an online purchase). This is by far the most accurate way.

The second is to talk with the manufacturer who will help you decide on which model they sell that may be most suitable for you based on your height/weight and sleeping positions and using "averages" along with any feedback you provide from your local testing as a guideline.

Whether you make a local purchase or a online purchase ... some good local testing can greatly increase your odds of choosing wisely.

The better options that I'm aware of in the Kansas City area are listed in post #2 here .

Hope this helps :)

Phoenix
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