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17 Jul 2022 12:56
  • Willofva
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Background: I’m 5’9” 370 lbs, back sleeper primarily, but will shift to side or stomach when I get too hot. My wife is 5’7” 125 lbs, mostly side or stomach sleeper. With such a difference in size and sleeping position, I’m concerned about finding something that works for both of us.

We are currently on a King Beautyrest Black Hybrid (Clermont model) purchased at Mattress Firm about 5.5 years ago. The store model was incredibly comfortable for 5-10 minutes, but when we got it home it’s been far too soft and sleeps super hot. A Beautyrest rep recently told me that one of the foams they used in that model proved too soft and didn’t hold up, so they’ve discontinued use of that particular foam. I’m sure my size didn’t help either. It’s currently dipping pretty far around the hips and is hell on my back.

Prior to this I had (when single) a Serta interconnected spring with 2” memory foam eurotop I got from Sam’s Club. It was great for about 10 years until I wore it out. But now we’d like something with more motion isolation.

In my previous post, I was looking for advice on picking a replacement mattress from MF, thinking they were going to support a warrantee claim on our current model. That's not going to happen, so I've shifted focus. Last time, a "hidden split" king was suggested, with different firmness lower layers, and a single top layer (since we have young kids we don't want to get stuck). I hadn't considered this approach, but like it.

I've also done some more research, and realized that it may be possible to salvage the coil unit from our current mattress. Ours is supposed to have Beautyrest's T3 coils, which were sold as a more durable coil. Being only 5.5 years old, I'm inclined to think that they may still be usable as a base layer in a DIY build. Best I can tell having not cut into my current mattress yet, they should be 8" tall, with another 7.5" of various foam layers above. I like the idea of a hybrid mattress for the cooling/airflow and bit of bounce that the coils may provide. I've also considered keeping my current mattress whole and just getting a Leggett and Platt coil unit to build on while we tinker, so we have something that we can sleep on if we hate or need to return layers.

From there, I'm thinking a latex transition layer above the coils. I recently got to test some all Dunlop mattresses, which were pretty good. I like that Dunlop is supposed to be more durable (good for my weight). The place where I tested couldn't (or wouldn't) tell me the ILD of the foams used.

On top, I've been debating between another latex layer or a memory foam layer. I understand that the top layer will wear out first, and that memory foam will not likely be as durable as latex. One of the pros of a DIY mattress for me is that I can change out layers as they wear out, without needing to drop thousands on a whole new mattress. I understand the Tempurpedic foam is better quality...would one of their mattress toppers make a good top layer (inside the mattress cover)? I've read they can feel pretty soft...but are they too soft, particularly for a big person?

Feel/preferences: I've generally been most comfortable on something medium-firm...at least in the store. I know it will soften some as it breaks in, and I'm concerned that it will become too soft (like my current mattress). That said, I've experienced some that are far too firm. We have a Casper from Costco in our guest room, and out of the box it was far too firm for me...pressure points, pain, and waking up all night. As it broke in, it's a little better but not great. Likewise, some of the firm mattresses in the store have me feeling more pressure points. I know a firmer foam is more likely to last under my weight, but I am trying to balance that with comfort. My wife would prefer something fairly firm, as she enjoys stomach sleeping. Being considerably lighter, her firm will probably feel softer for me.

So I'm looking for guidance on a build. I'm ok making a few mistakes along the way and spending a little money if it helps me get to what is best for us. As stated, I'm leaning toward a base coil unit. Above that, what thickness/ILD of Dunlop latex would your recommend for each of our sides as a transition layer? I'm likely to go for a GOLS or equivalent all-natural latex as I've heard it's most durable.

For a top comfort layer, I'm open to suggestions. We've not experienced Talalay latex, and I've read people can have very strong feelings about it. I did try a 2" convoluted Dunlop top layer which wasn't bad. We currently have many layers of memory foam, and I think I like the feel, though it does sleep hot and I don't like how much we sink in. I'm worried about making the mattress too soft by putting too much material above the coils. If I went with the 3" Tempurpedic Supreme over a 3" Dunlop latex layer, that would make a 14" overall height which I fear would be nearly as soft as our current 15.5" mattress. I've also seen reviews that the Tempurpedic topper is pretty soft...maybe there's a quality foam that's a bit firmer for the comfort layer?

What recommendations do you have? Help us, Mattress Undergound! Your're our only hope!
12 Jul 2022 06:51
  • eoren
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My wife and I have been sleeping on a 12" latex mattress purchased from a store in MA in 2018. Its components are as below

Talalay Global Latex foam in that mattress:
top layer 3” celsion Talalay 14ILD
transition layer 3”Talalay 24ILD
Core layer 6” Talalay 36ILD
Rayon Fire Barrier
Polyester cover

We also had a Casper topper that we purchased in 2019. From YouTube videos at the time, it looks like it had a 1" memory foam and a 'infused' latex foam middle then some soft top.

Couldn't recall why we added the Casper topper so removed it and have slept on the mattress alone for past 3 nights.
Wife is tossing and turning all night
I have woken with numb left arm from shoulder down and, this morning, pain across mid back/ribs (that's a first!)
To me, the mattress feels firm. I prefer a soft pillow top style bed. Wife prefers firm but tossing/turning suggests she is not seeing good comfort either.

Casper going back on but I'm not sure why we are both so miserable on 12" of good quality latex.

The goal is to switch to a split king adjustable. I'm not sure if I need to move to:
Soft Talalay
Soft Dunlop
Med Dunlop
Med Dunlop

Or what changes based on current mattress and pain.

Also not sure what effect adjustable would have on the same latex setup.

I'm 5'7" 170 lb side-sleeper
She is 5'4" ---lb and mostly back sleeper

Thanks!
11 Jul 2022 16:03
  • eoren
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Thanks for the replies

To update, I was able to figure out the exact components of the current mattress:
Talalay Global Latex foam in that mattress:
top layer 3” celsion Talalay 14ILD
transition layer 3”Talalay 24ILD
Core layer 6” Talalay 36ILD
Rayon Fire Barrier
Polyester cover

We also had a Casper topper that we purchased in 2019. From YouTube videos at the time, it looks like it had a 1" memory foam and a 'infused' latex foam middle then some soft top.

We went to check out a local store that had Savvy Rest mattresses and found all 4 (two splits with different density makeups) to feel too 'thin' for lack of a better term at only 9"

We also removed the Casper topper off of ours and I remembered why I had it on - would get a 'dead' left shoulder that woke me during the night (and I fall asleep on my right side). Wife tossed and turned. This continued on night 2.

So now thinking will need to get a minimum of 4 layers and looking more at SleepEZ. Wondering if I need to go with a
Soft Talalay
Soft Dunlop
Medium Dunlop
Medium Dunlop

Also trying to decide timing of moving to the adjustable bed (Leggett and Platt Comfort Elite) as we likely won't agree on a sleep setting but could at least see what the adjustments offer on the current 12" latex mattress before deciding on twin XLs.

Any suggestions based on the updated info?
07 Jul 2022 06:35
  • eoren
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My wife and I have been waking up sore for a while now and are ready to go on a mattress finding journey yet again.
I'm 5'7; 170lb; side sleeper - prefer soft
She is 5'4; not asking weight; back/side sleeper - prefers firm; runs hot

We started in 2011 with a local mattress company and got an innerspring core with 2 or 3" talalay latex (ILD19). The mattress was very firm. Added a 3" talalay latex ILD19 topper from them and lasted another 3 years.

In January 2018, I came here and ended up at another sort of local mattress company with a pure latex mattress composed of a 3" ILD 13 top layer then 3" ILD 22-24 middle and 6" ILD 36 Core
Added a 3" Casper latex topper in August 2019 as I was developing butt/hip pain that worsened during the day and she was also getting back/hip pain and poor sleep. The topper and new pillows seemed to help for a while.

For the past few weeks, I wake up with lower back and leg pains fairly often. Also sometimes feel like my hip (and sometimes shoulder) is digging into the mattress.
She has complained of tossing and turning and lower back pain as well.

I am pretty much set on the Leggett and Platt Prodigy Comfort Elite base as she reads in bed and also noted that her best night sleep was in the hospital after kids were born. She wants to start sleeping with head elevated.

I had thought of going with the Air-Pedic 800 split top king mattress to allow adjustments but she is concerned about any motor noises.

Now I'm wondering about going the custom latex route but don't want to mess up again...

I'm also unsure how the move to an adjustable may affect our goal of various ILDs to layer.

Really appreciate any help/guidance.
28 Jun 2022 10:54
  • Laichee
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Not sure what's causing you to shift from your side to your stomach, but stomach sleeping (also called the prone position) requires a firm mattress to keep your spine in proper alignment and prevent hammocking. Middle or lower back pain after sleeping on your stomach which then typically dissipates in a couple of hours is due to a mattress which lacks sufficient support or has too soft or thick of a comfort layer which allows too much sinkage.

- Bill


Hi Bill,

Thanks for your response. The problem is I start with sleeping on my side and find myself on my face in the morning so I'm not sure how much the back pain is caused by the side sleeping portion of my sleep versus the stomach sleeping. You are indeed correct that the pain dissipates over the course of the hours after waking up.

A mattress saleslady told me it's likely due to the mattress being too firm in my side sleeping position and my body's trying to relieve pressure by moving to my belly. Is there an objective test to determine if I needed a firmer or softer mattress/does middle/lower back pain ALWAYS signify that a firmer mattress is required? I subjectively felt more pain on the firmer mattresses (IKEA HAUGESUND) over my current (casper nova hybrid.)
28 Jun 2022 05:32
  • Laichee
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After trying the IKEA Haugesund, Douglas mattress, and now the Casper Nova Hybrid, I've found that I'm still waking up on my stomach despite predominantly being a side sleeper my whole life. The stomach sleeping is accompanied by mid or lower back soreness upon waking - wondering if anyone knows if this is more likely due to the mattress being too firm or being too soft?

I've never had this happen before and am especially confused due to the Casper Nova Hybrid supposedly being one of the softest mattresses I've tried in store.
27 Jun 2022 15:40
  • najc33
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Hi Nikki. Thanks for your welcome and your response!

I'm 5'11, 175 lbs male,. I've got a bit of a "bony" build. I'm a combination of a side sleeper/back sleeper. I really like the option of being able to sleep on both side and back, but that has presented difficulties in terms of mattress satisfaction. I need the softness for sleeping on my side, but the margin of error for also being able to sleep on my back seems slim. If it's too soft, I wake up stiff and twisted like a pretzel. On a firm mattress, I have a hard time falling asleep.and staying asleep. That's a far more miserable experience (and one I'd like to avoid) then my softer mattress experience.

As for your question about the layers: I tried a casper wave mattress once and liked it, so I thought I might try to imitate it. That mattress has 1.5 layer of latex over 1.5 of memory foam(with a high resiliency foam below that, which I could also throw in there instead of 3 inches of memory foam).

Additionally, I tend to sleep deeply on memory foam. I tried a latex topper once, and it was a little firm for me (though I've never tried talalay latex), so I'm hesitant to go overboard with the latex. I would be concerned about losing the pressure relief that my body seems to require to fall asleep if I moved away from foam. I feel like the latex may mitigate some of the postural/alignment concerns, though, so I definitely would like to integrate it into this DIY somehow. That's why the DIY is appealing in the first place, I can mess around with it and try to adjust as needed, as opposed to buying and having to return (yet another) mattress.
26 Jun 2022 08:31
  • Laichee
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Hi, thanks for the response! Since my previous posting, I've purchased a Casper Nova Hybrid from SleepCountry. They'll negotiate down to roughly $1100-1600 if you call around and ask for floor models - it has definitely been an improvement so far but I'm still negotiating some back pain/ trap soreness; unsure if it's residual pain from the Douglas. I might end up purchasing a Silk & Snow memory foam to test what the "softest of the soft" would feel like for me.
I've also purchased a Buckwheat Hull pillow, might recommend that. Good to hear you're starting on a DIY build.
20 Jun 2022 14:24
  • bobby2478
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I should note, this is separate experiment from my casper original mattress. Once i figure out what mattress and/or mattress/topper combo works, then if there's a height difference I'll consider FBM, Foamonline and any other places where I can buy basic high quality density foam in various sizes/heights so I can add it below my mattress just to raise it up. Any other retailers anyone would suggest to buy polyfoam (high density 1.9lb, high resilience 2.8-3lb) as a base to raise up mattress without altering feel of the sleep surface?
16 Jun 2022 17:15
  • Laichee
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I'm not even sure if what I'm referencing is the comfort vs. support layer being too firm... I have a gut feeling when I physically evaluate I'm typically only judging the softness of the comfort layer. I don't know if you have any input about this but I was at a place with a Casper Nova Hybrid today for 30% off and I loved the mattress, but no returns are allowed. How's the composition of the Nova Hybrid in your opinion long-term?
10 Jun 2022 10:30
  • bobby2478
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I guess the question is for DIY mattress folks, where do you buy foam materials for the various layers? I've read here that FBM isn't recommended, but have seen Foamonline mentioned as a possibility. Then I know that I can look for either a high quality/density polyfoam, or a firm dunlop latex (such as sleeponlatex or others).

My mattress is Casper Original Hybrid that's on an adjustable base. Knowing the foundation is solid with no flex, I'm assuming whatever base layer i purchase to place under my mattress I'd want it to be as firm as possible to attempt to not alter the current feel and support of the mattress (just raise it up so it's level with my wife's mattress)?
09 Jun 2022 14:32
  • bobby2478
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My wife and I have different needs so we each ended up getting our own different Twin XL Mattress (each on a twin XL adjustable foundation), that we put together to form a King (with a bed bridge in between). However our mattresses are 2 different heights (mine is 1-2" shorter than hers).

Instead of buying a mattress topper that can substantially alter the feel of the bed, I'm wondering if it's possible to buy just a 1" or 2" dense foam base layer that I could put underneath my mattress to raise it up so they are the same height without altering the feel of the mattress? I have a Casper Original Hybrid. Something comparable to the 1.8# 36ILD High Grade polyfoam base many manufacturers use as the very bottom layer of their mattresses.

Wondering if anyone has any suggestions besides either getting a mattress topper to put on top of the mattress, or bed risers to lift up the entire adjustable base.
27 May 2022 14:07
  • JDMWDC
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We have really enjoyed our all-foam mattress, was named the "Aloe Adele" back when Brooklyn Bedding offered deeply customizable sleep solutions (now they're just mass bed-in-a-box like everyone else, sadly). I spoke to a BB salesperson and was basically told they don't make mattresses similar to the one I have anymore. So: after 9 years so it's time for a new mattress and it looks like I'm changing brands.

Our current mattress:
1" quilted pillow top
3" of 4-lb gel memory foam
3" of 28 ILD Talalay latex
and 7" of 2.17lb base polyfoam

What we're trying to recreate:
* Little to no motion transfer, no major bounce (hence hybrid mattresses are out... I truly can't tell the difference between coils vs. innerspring other than marketing)
* We need the all-foam feel, which we view as soft without compromising support. We want more than neutral foam, but don't want to sink deeply into the mattress. My wife describes it as "just enough sink to support all the crevices, then you stop sinking before you feel trapped."

Whether there's a quilted top or not isn't super important.

What we've tried:
* Saatva showroom, hated almost everything we tried mostly due to the bounce. The closest offering was the Saatva HD, meant for heavy people (awkward, I'm 145 lbs.) But as I read about it, I think perhaps it's because the mattress added additional comfort layers for heavy people, so we didn't feel the springs as much. In addition, the coils that WERE there, were stronger than normal so perhaps less bounce to them.
* Purple showroom, hated everything with a passion because of the bouncing.
* Casper showroom. The Casper Original wasn't bad but was a tad too firm for our liking, felt more like sleeping on top rather than slightly more "in." I would say "close." We disliked the Wave and Nova beds, not a surprise as they're hybrids and very firm.
* Nectar. The Nectar Original is maybe the closest we've had so far. If the layers were thicker it might be the winner, but overall a bit firm (more "on" than "in" again). Nectar Premier was definitely out of contention. All reviewers say it's a much softer mattress, but that really only seems to apply to the top layer. We layer on it, immediately sunk through the top layer with virtually no support, and hit the second comfort layer like a rock.
* Tuft and Needle Mint - Felt extremely cheap in the showroom. They call their payers "adaptive foam" but I really didn't get the deeply supportive memory foam feel, just felt like a lot of cheap base foam.
* Brooklyn Bedding Signature - Medium. Yeah it's a hybrid but adding it as a data point. We have this in our guest bedroom. Much too firm for us, really no memory foam feeling at all.
* Brooklyn Bedding Aurora - Medium. This is the mattress we ordered without doing much research to replace our current bed. We are planning to get a refund, it's bouncy, the cooling is really a gimmick (didn't sleep any cooler than the one we got rid of), and it is lacking that memory foam feel/support we want.

What I'm looking at and have no idea what I'm doing:
Ghostbed Luxe - The bad reviews are scary, but I could order through Costco and have their warranty back it up
Winkbed GravityLux - Looks ok? I'm not convinced Ghostbed and Winkbed stand by their products, they seem to have exceptionally poor consumer feedback.
Leesa Original - Possibly a contender? Going to try to find this in a showroom, I think they have them at Macy's, but I wonder how much we'll miss having that layer of latex.
Nectar - How has the new Original changed from the old one we slept on? What about the Premier... which just seems like a layer of marketing?

This community helped me so much 9 years ago that I'm really excited to hear what you all might have to say :)
22 May 2022 19:23
  • mattressdude123
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I'm buying a mattress with my wife. We weigh 175lbs and 120lbs. We are seeking a medium-soft mattress, memory foam, ideally cooling, that is very durable. We can spend up to C$3,000 but would prefer to go much lower if we can still get adequate quality.

The consensus seems to be that Serta and Sealy mattresses are generally way overpriced and many argue that you should avoid the online box brands too. Apparently they are not durable and build / material quality is lacking for the price. Not sure what that leaves us with in terms of options locally (Montreal, Canada).

We went to a Dormez-Vous store and tried a bunch of mattresses from Sealy, Serta, Casper, Purple and Tempur-Pedic. The best one for us was the Serta iComfort TempActiv III (we actually loved it and I fell asleep on it in-store) and a close second was the Sealy Posturpedic Optimum Chill Trio Vivid. They were priced near our price limit with taxes.

What are some great soft memory foam mattresses that are durable?

Any help much appreciated. Thanky you.
14 May 2022 19:06
  • Willofva
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I have several general questions that I’m hoping for help with.

Background: I’m 5’9” 370 lbs, back sleeper primarily, but will shift to side or stomach when I get too hot. My wife is 5’7” 125 lbs, mostly side or stomach sleeper. With such a difference in size and sleeping position, I’m concerned about finding something that works for both of us.

We are currently on a King Beautyrest Black Hybrid (Clermont model) purchased at Mattress Firm about 5.5 years ago. The store model was incredibly comfortable for 5-10 minutes, but when we got it home it’s been far too soft and sleeps super hot. A Beautyrest rep recently told me that one of the foams they used in that model proved too soft and didn’t hold up, so they’ve discontinued use of that particular foam. I’m sure my size didn’t help either. It’s currently dipping pretty far around the hips and is hell on my back.

Prior to this I had (when single) a Serta interconnected spring with 2” memory foam eurotop I got from Sam’s Club. It was great for about 10 years until I wore it out. But now we’d like something with more motion isolation.

I recently learned that our Beautyrest Hybrid is sagging enough to qualify for a warranty claim. If I can get them to accept it, I’ll get a voucher for about $3,000 from Mattress Firm. After much reading, I’d rather not buy from them again, but not sure it makes sense to walk away from that much money.

So I’ve been in MF a couple times, and I’m drawn to a couple mattresses. I’ve laid on several others (Serta, Sterns, Beautyrest, Tempurpedic) and below are my favorite two at the moment. I’d like opinions/recommendations if you’re willing.

First is the Beautyrest Beyond Medium (medium was suggested due to wife side-sleeping). They appear to also have a “Beyond Hybrid” with some different layers and for significantly more expensive, but for the life of me I don’t understand why the non-hybrid model isn’t considered a hybrid. The non-hybrid model has 4.5” of various foams and a 0.5” latex layer above the springs. I could get this model for about $600 above my voucher ($3600 total). I’m concerned that I will have a similar experience to my current mattress…comfortable in-store, but miserable at home. My back can’t take 5-10 more years of that. And would it hold up to my size? I expect it to wear more quickly, but would be nice not to drop $4k every few years if it can be avoided. Also would be nice to have something that sleeps cooler, as heat has been an issue.

Second is the Tempurpedic Medium Hybrid (again due to side-sleeping). This one would be significantly more expensive…$3600 after voucher ($5100 for mattress, $1500 for base, minus voucher). This was initially the most comfortable/pressure relieving mattress we laid on. I like a little bounce response from the springs for…activities. I’m worried about the foam breaking down under my weight, and about sinking in and sleeping hot. Also by comparison, we have a Casper BIAB from Costco in our guest room, and it’s firm enough to hurt my hips and cause pressure points in other ways (though it may not be broken in enough). So here the decision is if this bed is worth another large investment, and if it’s likely to hold up.

Given everything I’ve read, if the MF warranty claim wasn’t in play, I’d probably build my own mattress. That way I could make sides for my wife and I, and dial it in to our preferences. I could also change out materials as they wear out. But I’d likely lean toward more latex to hold up longer.

A final note, as much as I like the idea of a split king, we have a co-sleeping 1yo that we don’t want getting stuck in the crack, so I need a non-split model.

So, forum experts, what would you suggest? Is there a bed I’ve missed? What’s the best way to utilize the store credit and help a sleep-mismatched couple be comfortable? Thank you for reading!
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