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Does it really take 24-48 hours to regain form after shipping? 14 Aug 2012 19:46 #1

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My bed from Ultimate Dreams came in. I just unpacked it and right now it is extremely soft (like a pillow). Obviously, it takes some time to fully inflate itself and regain some firmness. Does it really take 24-48 hours for this process to complete? Is it safe to sleep on during this time?

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Re: Does it really take 24-48 hours to regain form after shipping? 14 Aug 2012 20:46 #2

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Well, I decided to try it out for a few seconds. I do not understand how something so soft can be so supportive.

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Re: Does it really take 24-48 hours to regain form after shipping? 14 Aug 2012 21:32 #3

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We thought the same thing when we got ours last week. I was beginning to think our mattress had gotten switched by mistake with someone elses' but, after a few days, we've started noticing improvement in our sleep and how we feel in the morning. I wasn't really "wowed" with the mattress right away but its growing on me.

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Re: Does it really take 24-48 hours to regain form after shipping? 14 Aug 2012 22:17 #4

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Thanks. I told Chuck I was concerned about pressure points. I don't think that's going to be a problem on this mattress at all. Still surprised that it can be both plush and supportive at the same time.

Did you notice any changes over the first 48 hours?

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Re: Does it really take 24-48 hours to regain form after shipping? 14 Aug 2012 22:36 #5

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Changes in the mattress? No, it seemed to be full after a few hours but changing our foundation helped.

Changes in our sleep? Yes, I usually woke up very stiff; painfully stiff but after the first night I woke up with barely any stiffness but was sore. After the second night,I woke up with no stiffness but sore in my neck and shoulders and I think that was b/c I was using a thicker pillow. When I use my flat as a pancake pillow, I wake up refreshed and no soreness or stiffness but when I've used our thicker pillows, I've woken up with sore neck and shoulders.

I felt the same way you do as far the softness not being supportive. I didn't think there was any way something that soft could be still be supportive but, now I can't wait to go to bed and before it was something I didn't look forward to. So, it did take a few days, actually probably closer to a week to really adjust to it. I'm hoping the latex pillow will resolve the sore neck/shoulders.

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Re: Does it really take 24-48 hours to regain form after shipping? 15 Aug 2012 01:08 #6

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The bed has definitely firmed up some. At first I thought I should have gone firmer, now I'm glad I didn't.

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Re: Does it really take 24-48 hours to regain form after shipping? 15 Aug 2012 01:17 #7

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Hi Drog,

My bed from Ultimate Dreams came in. I just unpacked it and right now it is extremely soft (like a pillow). Obviously, it takes some time to fully inflate itself and regain some firmness. Does it really take 24-48 hours for this process to complete? Is it safe to sleep on during this time?


Yes ... you can sleep on it right away. The latex will usually fully expand within a few seconds (depending to some degree on how long it has compressed). The polyfoam may take a little longer but will usually not be far behind.

Well, I decided to try it out for a few seconds. I do not understand how something so soft can be so supportive.

Thanks. I told Chuck I was concerned about pressure points. I don't think that's going to be a problem on this mattress at all. Still surprised that it can be both plush and supportive at the same time.


This is the nature of latex and why those who prefer it like it so much. Many people who sit on it or press on it with their hands are completely surprised at the difference when they lie on it. This is because of the nature of the material, it's point elasticity, compression modulus, resilience and of course the ILD chosen. Latex is unique in its ability to be responsive, soft and supportive ... all at the same time :)

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Re: Does it really take 24-48 hours to regain form after shipping? 17 Aug 2012 12:11 #8

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Thank you. After sleeping on the mattress for a few nights, the mattress is much softer than what I am used to (though it offers great support for its level of firmness). I also seem to be sleeping great on it even though I'm a bit sore in the morning. I'm sure my body is still adjusting to it.

One thing I have noticed is it sleeps on the hot side, and when the mattress starts getting hot is seems like I sink in more than I do when I first lie down on it. I would like to keep the same feeling I get when I first lie down and perhaps add some surface comfort without adding any plushness to the bed and cool it down a bit. I would not mind a bit of extra firmness though I don't think it's really necessary.

Having said that, what kind of mattress pad would you recommend? The wool pads look really thick and I'm afraid they may add too much plushness to my bed. As an experiment, I took the top quilted comfort layer from my old bed and placed it on top of my new bed which made the bed way too plush for me. When I lay down on the bed over top of my thin hand made quilt, it seems like a great fit and definitely keeps me cool (I've actually woken up shivering when falling asleep this way). Would a cotton topper be better for my needs?

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Re: Does it really take 24-48 hours to regain form after shipping? 17 Aug 2012 14:43 #9

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Hi drog,

One thing I have noticed is it sleeps on the hot side, and when the mattress starts getting hot is seems like I sink in more than I do when I first lie down on it. I would like to keep the same feeling I get when I first lie down and perhaps add some surface comfort without adding any plushness to the bed and cool it down a bit. I would not mind a bit of extra firmness though I don't think it's really necessary.


The combination of more breathable quilting foam and latex is generally fairly cool sleeping for most people but there are many factors involved in temperature regulation including how far you are sinking in so besides the ones you can't change (the layers and cover of the mattress) ... and how far you sink in (the combination of your body weight, shape, sleeping positions, and the layers of the mattress) the things you can change are the mattress protector/mattress pad and the sheets and bedding ... both of which can make a big difference in temperature.

Polyfoam and latex isn't heat sensitive like memory foam and while all materials have some slight "creep" (which is the tendency of foam to relax with constant pressure), neither would account for your perception that the foams get softer with heat so this would be more of a subjective perception than an actual softening of the layers.

It's very difficult to firm up a mattress because any soft layers under firmer layers will still compress but it can be adjusted slightly. A wool mattress pad or topper would be a good choice for this because it can add some localized pressure relief but will also result in less sinking in to the mattress foam layers and will add breathability and temperature control. Your experiment with the had made quilt (not sure what this is made of or its thickness) seems to confirm that a choice of protector and/or sheets may solve this. The quilted comfort layer you were mentioning is probably just adding more foam or synthetic fiber to the mattress and it doesn't surprise me that it didn't work.

Plushness and softness are really the same thing and to me it sounds like you already have enough of both (you seem to be looking more to firm up the comfort layers than soften it).

First though ... I would take a look at your protector, sheets and bedding. Can you let me know which of these (if any) you are currently using... and is your mattress on the wire grid foundation or something else?

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Re: Does it really take 24-48 hours to regain form after shipping? 17 Aug 2012 17:11 #10

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I am not using a protector at this time (wanted to see how the bed felt first). The sheets are cheap microfiber (polyester?) and I have no doubt they are a contributing factor to the heat, however, it seems a little warmer on this bed than my previous bed when using the same sheets (a sleep number like air bed with a few thin layers of convoluted and memory foam and a quilted top). My mattress is on the wire grid.

I changed my pillow from memory foam to a more traditional material and that seems to have helped with the night sweats, but my back is still warmer than I'd like. I do not seem to be bottoming out on the bed. Also, the top of the bed does not seem to be a traditional quilted top.

The quilt I was referring to is very thin but I can't remember what it is made out of (whatever it is, it is very cool to lie down on but keeps me warm enough when I am underneath of it).

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