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Don't forget to ask for your "The Mattress Underground" forum member discount/bonus 16 Oct 2012 17:10 #71

Thanks Phoenix,

Chuck and I have exchanged info back and forth. I can tell that he is careful about not pushing my decision one way or the other regarding the level of firmness, rather he listens well to my questions and bases his answers on his experience with his product. Such level of service is to be commended!

I am still debating between the 4 and 5 levels. My only experience with a latex mattress was during a visit with family, when I spent 3 nights on a electopedics all-natural latex mattress. I was told it was a Hi Profile Firm, but it felt just right, with great support without being hard. On the contrary, the top was so comfy I overslept each and every day :P Of course, no one knows its ILDs!

So I am now trying to duplicate this level of firmness with my Ultimate Dreams Natural Dunlop. Again, I have no ILD's to work with, since Brooklyn Bedding uses a 1 to 10 scale. Firmer - as in a 4 or 5- seems better to me, since the top 1.5 inch will be a soft reflex foam.

Over the years, we've had firm mattresses to help with bad posture, and kept them 15 years on average. We like firm support, and don't like a sinking down or worse, bottoming out feeling. We tried a tempurpedic and hated how we felt so heavy and stuck into it...

At the same time, we now appreciate a "being on a cloud" sensation when getting into bed. The most important of course is still good posture, no pain and feeling rested in the morning.

So I am thinking maybe a 4, hoping I am close to the Hi Profile Electopedic firmness, and because I cannot be sure a 5 won't be too soft in the end. I welcome any suggestion!

Thanks again!

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Don't forget to ask for your "The Mattress Underground" forum member discount/bonus 16 Oct 2012 17:43 #72

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Hi Louie,

You can see the specs of the various Electropedic models here .

Unfortunately ... these two mattresses are very different because they use different layers, different layer thicknesses, and different materials so it would be very difficult to "translate" one into the other even if all the specs were known. For example all the "firm" models of the Electropedic use 24 ILD in the comfort layers but because they are all thinner (1.1") ... you would feel much more of the firmer layers below them than you would with the Ultimate Dreams which has about 4.5" in the comfort layer (3" of latex and the quilted foam). How much you feel the firmness of the lower layers would depend on the individual and their body type and sleeping positions.

I believe the ILD of the level 4 is 32 and the in between choices (odd numbers) are done with variations in the quilting pattern rather than the latex. The extra quilting layer will create extra softness so these would not be comparable with a latex layer of the same ILD and thickness without the quilting foam.

If you are uncertain ... erring on the side of firmness leaves more room to add a topper to make some fine tuning adjustments after you have slept on the mattress. A forum search on Ultimate Dreams level ILD (you can just click this) will bring up many comments from forum members about their firmness choices which may prove helpful.

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Don't forget to ask for your "The Mattress Underground" forum member discount/bonus 16 Oct 2012 17:59 #73

Thanks for your prompt reply:)

Erring on the side of too much firmness is a wise suggestion. It actually matches Chuck's response to my 4 versus 5 inquiry. I will spend some time reading about other customers ILD choices and hopefully will be able to give Chuck the go-ahead today!

Hope you have a great day!:)

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Don't forget to ask for your "The Mattress Underground" forum member discount/bonus 17 Nov 2012 18:06 #74

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Pheonix—thanks for providing all of this information. I almost bought a Sealy Optimum bed, but found this site, and I've decided to give the folks at Quality Sleep Shop near Chicago a chance. I would have never known about them unless it was this site. Thanks!

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Don't forget to ask for your "The Mattress Underground" forum member discount/bonus 17 Nov 2012 20:50 #75

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Hi brysiewi26,

Thanks for the kind words ... and I think you are heading in a great direction :)

I'm looking forward to any feedback you may have.

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Don't forget to ask for your "The Mattress Underground" forum member discount/bonus 18 Nov 2012 15:42 #76

Hi there! After several days of researching mattresses, I came upon your website. What a relief to read unbiased information that is truly helpful. I'm leaning toward a mattress from Ultimate Dreams. I will continue my reseach, but this may be it! I have CMT, a neuromuscular disease that affects my legs, and I seem to move a lot in my sleep. I need a mattress that doesn't transfer my movement to my boyfriend. Also, and this is the decision that is really haunting me .... I prefer the size of a queen bed in my room (which isn't terribly huge), but the king I currently have seems better for us. I'm wondering if others who've had a king and then went to a queen have any regrets?

Thanks for your hard work at keeping us all informed!

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Don't forget to ask for your "The Mattress Underground" forum member discount/bonus 18 Nov 2012 18:32 #77

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Hi dianec,

I'm wondering if others who've had a king and then went to a queen have any regrets?


I think that in these types of things that each person or couple can be so individual that it's probably better to go by your own instincts than other people's opinions.

My DH for example is a more restless sleeper at times (moving legs especially) and sometimes can get hot or needs "space" for various reasons so she would much prefer a king size, but for her the size of the bedroom is the most important factor and she would much prefer a queen if the rest of the bedroom would be too crowded and take away from the feeling or "ambience" of the bedroom environment itself which for her is a big factor in how she feels in the room. In other words ... "space" in the bedroom is just as or even more important than "space" on the mattress itself. While it wouldn't be ideal (getting a larger bedroom would solve both problems) it would be her preference if the bedroom was smaller and she wouldn't (and doesn't) regret having to make the choice for a smaller bedroom.

I on the other hand tend towards being a very still sleeper and I can easily sleep on the outer 1/3 of the mattress which can give her space when she needs it although I prefer the more "cozy" feeling of being closer when all else is equal (and so does she).

So overall I think that while a queen is not her first preference ... there are other things that are just as if not more important to her and the "best" choice would depend on other factors that are even more important besides just the extra room on a king size mattress.

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Don't forget to ask for your "The Mattress Underground" forum member discount/bonus 19 Nov 2012 17:40 #78

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Thanks for everything you're doing here Phoenix.

My wife and I are in the market for a new mattress and making educated decisions is proving to be a difficult task. I've been reading the Forums for a couple days now, and just decided to join. I'm confident the information on this site will be of great use as we narrow the field.

Thanks again,

Craig

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Don't forget to ask for your "The Mattress Underground" forum member discount/bonus 19 Nov 2012 21:08 #79

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Hi cubfan4real,

Thanks for the kind words ... and I'm glad you found us :)

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Don't forget to ask for your "The Mattress Underground" forum member discount/bonus 20 Nov 2012 18:44 #80

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Wow, this site makes so much sense of an absolutely crazy mattress search! I've been sucked into this site and it's been really helpful in making my decision. I'm buying a twin bed for our toddler, but the reality is my husband and I will likely fall asleep on this bed quite often :-) So all this information has been really useful. I think we are going with the Ultimate Dreams Latex mattress. I'll try to update with a review once we've had it a while.

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