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Re: Wool mattress pads and toppers 22 Sep 2013 13:12 #11

Hi Phoenix --
Thanks for this really helpful post. I'm trying to add a pressure point relieving layer to an otherwise good and supportive bed. For this purpose, do you think more wool density is better than less, as a general rule? The sources you mention all look really good, but frankly I'm confused by the choices and not sure how thick I need the topper to be. Thanks for any further guidance.
Martin

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Re: Wool mattress pads and toppers 22 Sep 2013 17:48 #12

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Hi mjs02,

I'm trying to add a pressure point relieving layer to an otherwise good and supportive bed. For this purpose, do you think more wool density is better than less, as a general rule? The sources you mention all look really good, but frankly I'm confused by the choices and not sure how thick I need the topper to be. Thanks for any further guidance.


More wool and thicker toppers will be softer and relieve pressure points more effectively but neither will be as pressure relieving as a foam material and wool will also pack down over time and become firmer than when it is new. There are also different types of wool (finer and courser) and different toppers will also use different densities of wool which is more or less compressed so it's usually better to talk with the manufacturer of each topper you are considering to get the best possible suggestion for their range of wool toppers. There really isn't any "better or worse" or general rules ... only preferences. Thicker wool toppers will generally compress and impress more over time.

Foam (polyfoam, memory foam, or latex foam) is generally more pressure relieving overall because it supports and distributes body weight over a larger surface area while wool will act more as a padding under the pressure points but will be less supportive under the more recessed areas of the body. They also have a very different "feel" and wool is also much more breathable and temperature regulating than any foam. Wool is as much of a "feel" material as a pressure relieving material. Wool will also reduce the ability of the any softer layers underneath it to contour to your body shape which can add to the firmness of your mattress and it can also reduce the heat that reaches any memory foam in your mattress which can make the memory foam firmer. Thicker layers of wool will have more effect on how much you feel the layers below the topper (you will feel more of the wool and less of the layers underneath it) than thinner layers so it also depends on how much of the feel of the underlying layers you want to "come through". If you aren't familiar with wool toppers in your own experience then it's generally best to have some more detailed conversations with some of the manufacturers listed to gain some clarity about the thickness of the wool toppers they offer that you would prefer.

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Re: Wool mattress pads and toppers 13 Oct 2013 08:41 #13

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I am also looking for a wool topper. but I sometimes think about cotton.
My goal is to find the coolest topper.
can anyone help me to know which one is cooler ?

another thing is I checked all of those links
but why you didn't consider this one:
thefutonshop.com/3-inch-Soft-Organic-Wool-Mattress-Topper/p/731/6224
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when I compare its weight I found it is the heaviest wool topper.
they use 30 lbs wool in their queen size mattress topper .

Phoenix why you didnt mention this site ? They are not a good producer ?

Is it a good choice ?

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Re: Wool mattress pads and toppers 13 Oct 2013 14:17 #14

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Hi plusforce,

There are may factors involved with temperature regulation but in most cases and designs wool will be a better temperature regulator than cotton because it stores moisture inside the fiber and away from the surface. Keep in mind that wool regulates temperature in both directions.

Phoenix why you didnt mention this site ? They are not a good producer ?


There are thousands of products that aren't mentioned on the site that I haven't come across in my research and don't know about. That's why I suggested that other members add their own discoveries to the thread (as you have done) :)

Is it a good choice ?


It appears to be good quality and value from a materials point of view but of course only you can decide if it's a good choice for you based on your conversations with them and others you may also be considering, your confidence that it will work well for you, and on the specifics of their return policy if it doesn't work as well as you hope.

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Re: Wool mattress pads and toppers 13 Oct 2013 14:56 #15

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Thank you Phoenix :)

I thought you had a specific reason that you didn't mention that site.
In fact that site is my first choice just because it is the heaviest 3 inches topper.
They don't have return policy !
I just received some real pictures of their 3 inches topper and they seem fine !

Now I have a firm Otis futon mattress
I like it, every thing is fine with that else temperature.
but I still don't know a 3 inches topper can be enough for this purpose or not.
that's why I decided to get the heaviest one. I think more wool = more temperature regulation.

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Re: Wool mattress pads and toppers 13 Oct 2013 16:36 #16

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Hi plusforce,

Just keep in mind that wool will compress over time and become firmer and that it's not generally as soft as softer foam materials.

If you decide to purchase it I'm certainly looking forward to your feedback about how it works for you.

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Re: Wool mattress pads and toppers 13 Oct 2013 17:28 #17

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Oh
so let me describe what I have done before you wait for my review
I already have bought this one from sears.com
www.sears.com/quilted-wool-mattress-topper/p-096VA54050712P?prdNo=1

it is an Holy lamb product
but it is just 9.3 lbs
After I bought this I realized that maybe it is too thin .
then I searched and found that heavy one from futonshop.com

So if I see Holy lamb topper is not enough for temperature regulating I will return it and buy
that heavy one.

hopefully this week I will receive 9.3 lbs holly lamb wool topper

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Re: Wool mattress pads and toppers 13 Oct 2013 17:55 #18

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Hi plusforce,

The Holy lamb will certainly be fine for temperature regulation and is a high quality product.

The most important question and the main difference between them will be how they will "feel" and perform on top of your futon. Thicker wool layers will generally feel softer (although this can also depend on the specifics of the construction) but I doubt that you would see much if any difference between them in terms of temperature regulation.

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Re: Wool mattress pads and toppers 13 Oct 2013 19:26 #19

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You are right , Holy Lamb products are high quality.
But they put 9.3 lbs in a queen topper.

Futonshop claims that their 3 inches topper contains 30 lbs of wool !

I can not stop thinking about with just 100$ more I can get more than 3 times wool in a topper !

but maybe I am wrong and brand is more important than wight of wool !
I have to decide between 9.3 lbs wool and 30 lbs wool .
Is really 9.3 lbs wool enough to disconnect heat conductivity between me and my polyester mattress ?

I really do not know what to do !

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Re: Wool mattress pads and toppers 13 Oct 2013 21:00 #20

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Hi plusforce,

If the materials or type of wool in each topper is similar or the same then it would seem that in terms of material cost the futonshop would be better "value" although the method of manufacturing and the type of wool used would also be a factor. The material value of a product is only part of the value of your purchase though because no matter what the quality or material value of a topper if it doesn't work well for you in terms of its comfort and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) then it would have little value to you no matter what the cost or "value" of the materials may be.

Since you have already made the purchase anyway then I would suggest trying the wool topper you have already purchased and then decide from there based on your own experience.

Even much less wool than 9.3 lbs is plenty to have a significant effect on temperature regulation.

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