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I need help deciding between these two mattresses, both sold by Urban Mattress 28 Jan 2022 12:41 #1

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I'm currently deciding between two king mattresses.

Urban Mattress, The Ravenswood: vienna.urbanmattress.com/shop/product-collection/essentials/
- Comfort Layer: 1 inch natural talalay latex
- Support Layer: Individually pocketed coil

Urban Mattress, The Lilac: vienna.urbanmattress.com/shop/product-collection/bloom/
- Comfort Layer: 1.5 inches of Certi-pur 3 lb HR Cold Foam
- Support Layer: Firm: 884 6 inch 14.5 gauge pocketed coil with firm edge/ Plush: 884 6 inch 15.5 gauge pocketed coil with firm edge

Both are $1700. I'm primarily a side sleeper, but definitely end up sleeping on my stomach sometimes. Any advice would be welcome, thanks.

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I need help deciding between these two mattresses, both sold by Urban Mattress 01 Feb 2022 10:37 #2

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Hi Tutzio.

Welcome to our Mattress Forum. :)

Both of these mattresses look good in terms of durability as per our Durability Guideline . So, that is good news :)

They will differ in feel as latex tends to be a bit bouncier than non-latex foam (which 'traps' the body moreso than latex).

My concern here is the very thin comfort layers. Side sleepers generally need comfort be a little softer and/or thicker than the other 2 positions. In general a good starting point for a good comfort layer for a side sleeper is 3" and then depending on weight, body shape, preferences, and the firmness of the support layers, to go up or down from there. Most side sleepers will fall in the range of from 2" -4". Without an appropriate comfort layer, a side sleeper will end up with pressure points during the course of the night and could have symptoms of numbness, soreness, localized redness, or end up tossing and turning all night as your body tries to relieve the pressure.

You'd likely end up needing a topper to find adequate support and comfort on these beds.

I see they have models with thicker comfort layers. Are you opposed to those models?
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I need help deciding between these two mattresses, both sold by Urban Mattress 18 Jun 2022 18:38 #3

Hello Nikki or admin!

My past two purchases with latex mattresses from a reputable vendor that you list on your website have failed for my wife (used every possible Talalay combinations possible and the "springy" feel of the latex causes my wife to have back and neck pain). While I understand this site recommends latex a lot, I want to avoid it 100% (unless it's like a 0.5 in layer somewhere) and I also want to avoid memory foam 100% b/c I know my wife hates it.

My wife is ok with most top end hotel mattresses (like the Ritz, Grand Hyatt, etc.) and innerspring mattresses so I'm going with the innerspring option (although I won't be going with the big box brand). My wife probably has the worst track record of anyone I know for returns (even surprises the shops) with a 20 year track record of returning mattresses 10X. It probably has to do to the fact that she had a hard fall rollerblading and a car accident that exacerbated her condition.

Long story short, we live in Austin, looked for a local mattress company and found that urban mattress meets many of the requirements (durability, innerspring that my wife wants, local so she can try, etc.).

My wife sleeps on her back and sometimes rotates and sleeps on her side. We plan to start a family and I'm very worried that her mattress requirements will change at different stages of her pregnancy as she gains weight b/c she is so sensitive. She is ~150 pounds at 5'6 that equates to a BMI ~24 (higher range of normal). I realized that her sensitivity to our Talalay latex mattress has worsened with the pandemic since she gained weight (~15 pounds). My best guess is she's added pounds to her buttocks and that is putting additional strain on her back.

There are two mattresses that are at the top of our list:

1. Urban mattress - UPTOWN in plush (austin.urbanmattress.com/shop/product-collection/essentials/)

Specs: Outer layer - Stretch-knit fiber over 2 layers of 1.5 inch Certi-pur 3 lb HR Cold Foam; comfort layer - 2 inches of 3 lb Certi-pur 3 lb High Resiliency foam; 2.5 inch 1353 micro-coils; support layer - Plush: 884 8 inch pocketed coil with quantum edge 15.5/13.5 gauge;

2. Aireloom at Macy's (www.macys.com/shop/product/hotel-collection-by-aireloom-holland-maid-coppertech-silver-natural-14.5-luxury-firm-mattress-king-created-for-macys?ID=13681503)

I decided to axe out Aireloom b/c I'm suspicious of their lack of transparency on their foam layers. The thing is that my wife loves the thick "plush" top foam layer (visually looks like 3+ inches and much thicker top foam layer than any mattress I've seen in person) although it is a "firm mattress" which I thought would never work. I also think the depressions located near the buttons created by the hand tufting help her back b/c she sinks her buttocks on the depressions which help reduce pressure points on her back (my guess).

The questions I have are:

1. Does the uptown urban mattress have solid outer and comfort layers for durability? It is HR foam but I don't know if 1,2,3,or 4+ inches should be the ideal thickness of the foam layer.
2. Is the thickness of the foam layers (outer, and comfort) are thick enough to deliver comfort and put them among top manufacturers out there who make innerspring mattresses
3. Are there any other top mattress makers like urban mattress that can make a thicker outer layer of quality foam for an innerspring? Would it even make sense to do it? Best option I have so far is to buy this mattress and put an additional topper
4. I was told a fully adjustable base (e.g., lumbar, leg, etc.) would do wonders to relieve pressure. Would you agree this would be beneficial and especially during pregnancy? My wife used to put a pillow below her knees and sleep which seemed to help her. Using this logic, fine tuning and adjusting to relieve pressure via an adjustable bed does make sense.

I rambled a lot and have a lot of questions so I want to thank you in advance for helping.

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I need help deciding between these two mattresses, both sold by Urban Mattress 21 Jun 2022 13:45 #4

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Hi pokejc.

1. Does the uptown urban mattress have solid outer and comfort layers for durability? It is HR foam but I don't know if 1,2,3,or 4+ inches should be the ideal thickness of the foam layer.


Look at the specs you shared, I'd say it fall within our recommended durability guidelines for sure. The previously referenced foam thickness should still apply here since it's dependent on sleeping position, not so much the material used in the mattress. And of course, as always, personal preference.

2. Is the thickness of the foam layers (outer, and comfort) are thick enough to deliver comfort and put them among top manufacturers out there who make innerspring mattresses


Comfort is such a subjective aspect that I couldn't tell you these specific layers will be comfortable to you/your wife, but I'd say the over all build is well within what you'd need based on your sleeping positions and would/should be comfortable for the average sleeper. Again, everyone's experience will be different but this mattress looks well designed.

3. Are there any other top mattress makers like urban mattress that can make a thicker outer layer of quality foam for an innerspring? Would it even make sense to do it? Best option I have so far is to buy this mattress and put an additional topper


If you're finding most don't, it's because the majority of people don't need nor benefit from super thick comfort layers. In fact, this can push a sleeper's spine out of alignment and create more problems than it solves. You may find something similar at Nest Bedding .

4. I was told a fully adjustable base (e.g., lumbar, leg, etc.) would do wonders to relieve pressure. Would you agree this would be beneficial and especially during pregnancy? My wife used to put a pillow below her knees and sleep which seemed to help her. Using this logic, fine tuning and adjusting to relieve pressure via an adjustable bed does make sense.


I've never heard a complaint from someone who uses an adjustable base. Obviously, you'd want to make sure the mattress you purchase is compatible with an adjustable base - not all hybrids are. But yes, there isn't really a downside to being able to customize the sleep experience!

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