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I could use some advice from you folks 30 Oct 2020 07:53 #1

I currently have an 8 year old Tempurpedic Cloud-Supreme. It just doesn't feel that comfy anymore and my wife and I want to replace it. We are both stomach sleepers. Because of where I live, I will need to travel to test most any bed that meets this forum's suggestions, so I am trying to weed out choices that seem like they wouldn't be durable. I've been doing my best to get educated and I think I've narrowed things down to:

1. Comfort Option
2. Bowles
3. White Dove (the Atlas 1200, 4200, or 4300)

I don't love the lack of bounce in memory foam, for intimate reasons. So I am considering going back to springs (hybrid). I've read that innerspring mattresses really don't last as long as foam. I am wondering if a high quality spring mattress ages well. I'd like to get 10 years + out of it.

Here are the specs of what I'm looking at:

ComfortOption has MANY different configurations. Their various foams available for use are as follows:
C - 3lb density, 8 IFD (This is the only true memory foam. They say the 3lb has competitive durability but the lower density helps prevent overheating. It has copper flakes in it to help with heat, too.)
S - 2.5lb density, 16 IFD
10 (TEN) - 3.5lb density, 13 IFD
18 - 3lb density, 18 IFD
FLEX - 2.6lb density, 18 IFD
Base layer 2.8lb density, 45 IFD

Aside from "C," the remaining foams are polyfoam or a mixture of polyfoam and memory foam.

Bowles: (I'm interested in 2 lines:
West Baden Springs (from top layer to bottom layer):
Tencil fabric quilted to 1.5" of 1.5lb density polyfoam
.5" gel lumbar support (I talked to the company and forget the density they said. It's either 3 or 4)
1" 3.3lb density latex
2" 1.5lb polyfoam
1" of 4lb density memory foam
.75" comfort support layer
.25" insulator pad
6" 12.5ga springs
.75" 1.5lb base support pad

Newport (from top layer to bottom):
Performance Fabric quilted to 1.5" of 1.5lb density polyfoam
.5" Gel lumbar support
1" gel 4lb density memory foam
1" latex 3.3lb
2.4" of micro coils, 17.5 ga, individually wrapped.
1" of 1.5lb density firm polyfoam
6" of individually wrapped 15ga coils
3" by 6" 1.5 density polyfoam encasement around perimeter
1" of 1.5lb density polyfoam support layer

White Dove:
1200 (
Hand tufted
Premium latex
2.5lb density polyfoam
12.5ga double offset springs

4200 and 4300
Hand tufted
(4300 has an additional layer of ultra soft, ultra high density FLO foam here)
Premium latex
2.5lb density polyfoam
1250 coils individually wrapper system


Of course my body is the ultimate judge and comfort is subjective. But looking these over, at least on paper, how do they look and what would be some general thoughts as to their quality and durability?

Thank you all for the help. This site is amazing. Mattress shopping is really pretty challenging to do intelligently. A lot of bad info out there. And given the importance of a good place to sleep, I really appreciate all that you've built here.

David

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I could use some advice from you folks 01 Nov 2020 06:37 #2

Hey David,

Welcome to the Mattress Underground :) ! Thanks for your question.

I currently have an 8 year old Tempurpedic Cloud-Supreme. It just doesn't feel that comfy anymore and my wife and I want to replace it. We are both stomach sleepers.


Congrats on your new mattress shopping journey :) ! From the length of your post, it seems that you've done quite a deep-dive investigation of possibilities to choose from, good job on your research David and thanks for providing product specs for the mattresses you are considering. Several more facts are needed first before we address your durability/ longevity concerns: what is yours/ your wife's heights, weights, and body profile types? For better understanding the role your personal statistics play in the overall suitability of a mattress, Phoenix's article, "The Role of Body Weight and Shape in Pressure Relief" is a helpful read. Also as you are both stomach sleepers, correct firmness in the upper comfort layer is critical; stomach sleeping is the most prone of all sleeping positions to sinking down too far in the pelvic area, resulting in hyperextension of the lumbar area. Phoenix's article, "An Overview of Sleeping Positions" breaks down how different type sleeping positions require different type comfort/ support layers for correct body alignment/ pressure relief.

Because of where I live, I will need to travel to test most any bed that meets this forum's suggestions, so I am trying to weed out choices that seem like they wouldn't be durable. I've been doing my best to get educated and I think I've narrowed things down to:

1. Comfort Option
2. Bowles
3. White Dove (the Atlas 1200, 4200, or 4300)

I don't love the lack of bounce in memory foam, for intimate reasons. So I am considering going back to springs (hybrid). I've read that innerspring mattresses really don't last as long as foam. I am wondering if a high quality spring mattress ages well. I'd like to get 10 years + out of it.


Innerspring mattresses continue to be the most popular and widely available mattress construction in the industry. A "hybrid" mattress could be an attractive alternative to those who like the feel of a foam sleeping surface but also prefer the feel and more lively response of an innerspring support core. Look for higher quality foams in the comfort layers, a hybrid mattress of a latex comfort layer (s) over a pocket coil construction could be a good choice in terms of a 10+ year life from a durability standpoint. You can read more on the most common types of mattresses in Phoenix's, "The Most Common Types of Mattresses" .

Of course my body is the ultimate judge and comfort is subjective. But looking these over, at least on paper, how do they look and what would be some general thoughts as to their quality and durability?
Thank you all for the help. This site is amazing. Mattress shopping is really pretty challenging to do intelligently. A lot of bad info out there. And given the importance of a good place to sleep, I really appreciate all that you've built here.


David, thanks for your kind words on the site; they are much appreciated :) .I will be happy to offer further thoughts regarding the durability comparisons of your preferred mattresses after the above personal statistics questions are answered as they play a direct role in how long a mattress would last, as well as the type materials/ construction used. BTW, what size mattress are you considering? Looking forward to your reply when you have a minute or two… ;) .

Thanks,
Sensei
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