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Frustrated and in so much pain 08 Sep 2017 12:20 #31

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Hi fridadc,

I don’t know if extra surface plushness is exactly what you need, but it seems to be what you are pointing toward with all of your comments. The concern would be, as you stated, having too much plush material on top as to have a negative impact upon your alignment, but again I can’t predict via a forum what works best for you with your specific needs. I apologize for the generalizations.

I don’t know how long you might have with R&B in order to allow a possible exchange, but using a polyfoam topper might be something that you could try, but realize that any polyfoam topper you choose will not result in exactly the same feel as if you change to a new softer mattress at R&B.

Additionally, as you mentioned in your last post, you haven’t tried the new mattress for a very long period of time, so this would be the first thing I would focus upon and see how your body adapts with some more time sleeping upon it, as long as you’re still within your exchange period.

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Frustrated and in so much pain 10 Sep 2017 16:49 #32

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Hi Phoenix:

Your last post really made me re-think my approach and I decided to take a few steps back.
Today, my friend and I studied your section on support and spine alignment and then went to work. We discovered that my alignment was off when I was sleeping on my side (which is the position I tend to prefer the most). Basically, it looked as if I had a too soft of a mattress. I have been using this mattress pad (www.landsend.com/products/supima-mattress-pad/id_204377?sku_0=::WHI) which adds about 1-1.5 inches of plushness. My friend suggested to remove the mattress pad and then look at my alignment again. After we did, it was so much better. Not perfect, but so much better. I wished we had done this from the beginning, but I can't go back. I do think the firm version I had before was not a good one, it was way too hard. Uncomfortably hard. He did take some photos for me to keep as reference in case I need to start looking for a new mattress in the future.

I am going to try the new mattress without the mattress pad for a couple weeks in a consistent manner and see how that goes. I still have 105 days to return the mattress if I need to.

In the meantime, thank you so much for all your advice and patience.

FridaDC

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Frustrated and in so much pain 10 Sep 2017 19:20 #33

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Hi fridadc,

I'm very happy that you and your friend were able to come up with some options for you that seem to be pointing back in the right direction. I'm hoping that you'll be able to put in some consistent time on the mattress, as you mentioned previously, and then see how you adjust to it.

I'll look forward to your future updates - fingers crossed!

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Frustrated and in so much pain 15 Oct 2017 14:48 #34

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Hi Phoenix

I just wanted to send you a quick update. I am not having a lot of luck with the mattress I got. I have the encased coil soft version from Room and Board. Unfortunately, I am having a lot of hip pain to the point that I am going to physical therapy for it. I tried sleeping on my back (I am mostly a side sleeper) and it was not comfortable at all.

I decided against going with the ultra soft version of the encased coil mattress from Room and Board because I believed my alignment on that mattress will be way off, it's too soft for me.

I started doing mattress shopping again. I went to Urban Mattress in Vienna which was highly recommended by a friend. I loved one of their mattresses (urbanmattress.com/product/highland-medium-firm-mattress/), my alignment was great and it was very comfortable. Then when I was on my way home, I realized that my hip was hurting, just like with the mattress I currently have. I think my issue is pressure points. I did a quick test one day I wasn't feeling any pain, I slept on my couch for a few nights, and I just went into a local mattress store and tried some of the innerspring mattresses. Same issue. I did test a Sealy memory foam mattress (I know, not the best quality, but I was just doing an experiment), and it did not trigger any pain.

So I am super confused now. My doctor and PT recommended an innerspring mattress because of my back issues, but that doesn't seem to be the answer. I also tried some latex mattresses and yep, that's still a no go for me. Not comfortable at all.

I was thinking about getting a memory foam topper for my current mattress to see if that helps relief the pressure points, but I am not sure if investing on that is even worth it. I guess I need to an innerspring mattress that has more comfort layers, but I am afraid that I will be sinking in more and more and my alignment will be completely off.

Thanks for all your previous advice and recommendations.

FridaDC

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Frustrated and in so much pain 16 Oct 2017 10:14 #35

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Hi fridadc,

I’m sorry you’re still experiencing pressure point pains. :(

As you mentioned, it may simply be the issue that you have some extreme sensitivities, as you even experienced these pains off of the mattress while in your car, and if that is the case it certainly could explain your varied responses on different mattress configurations.

Unfortunately, there is no one mattress guaranteed to alleviate such issues, and in the end it comes down to your own experimentation and attempts at finding materials that are “better than not” at assisting with your situation. It certainly could be that something using memory foam (either a topper or a traditional memory foam mattress) could do the trick for you, but without you testing it out, as you’re well aware, I unfortunately can’t provide much of a prediction. I wish I could!

I don’t know if you’ll find it helpful, but a forum search on fibromyalgia (you can just click the link) will bring up more comments and feedback from others that are in similar circumstances with pressure points that may be helpful (but it will also confirm that there isn't a single "best" combination of materials that will work for everyone with fibromyalgia).

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Frustrated and in so much pain 10 Nov 2017 16:43 #36

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Hi Phoenix:

I tried a couple of memory foam toppers and they didn’t help. I have actually been sleeping on my mattress without any toppers and I started physical therapy which is helping with the pressure point pain. I am still not 100% comfortable with the Encased coil soft mattress from Room and Board. I have my friend take photos while I was laying on it and I think I’m sinking in too much which is causing my alignment to go off. So I’m started to look for a new mattress. I think I’m going with the Uptown from urban mattress (urbanmattress.com/product/uptown-soft-mattress/).
When I spoke to the guy at the store, I mentioned that I had a semi-flex steel grid foundation and he said that the mattress will feel softer. They have their mattresses in the showroom on some slat foundations. I was a little confused as I know that while the name of the foundation is semi-flex, it really doesn’t flex. Anyhow, I liked that mattress and my alignment was perfect. I am going back this Saturday and I want to make sure I get the right information. I remember the guy told me that the microcoils are on top of the encased coils followed by the poly foam then a layer of memory foam. The specs online look kind of weird. It looks as if the microcoils are in between the comfort layers? Are microcoils part of the comfort layers or the support layers?

Thank you in advance for your help.
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Frustrated and in so much pain 11 Nov 2017 09:45 #37

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Hi fridadc,

I wouldn’t be so concerned with the “labeling” of a layer as a “comfort” layer or ”transition” layer, as those are merely descriptors. I also wouldn’t be too concerned about the ordering of the layers unless you had quite a bit of experience in mattress design, and I would instead focus upon the quality of the componentry and the comfort the product offers you. Microcoils are generally used in the upper layers of a mattress and are considered as a “comfort” layer, and in the mattress you’re describing they are contained between the quilt panel and memory foam layer.

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Frustrated and in so much pain 11 Nov 2017 10:46 #38

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HI Phoenix:
Thank you. I went today and I really liked The Uptown mattress. I spoke to the guy to get more clarification, the order of the components is as follows:
884-count 6″ pocketed coil
2.5″ layer of 1353 microcoil
2″ layer of 3 lb. memory foam
two 1.5″ layers of 2.1 lb. quilt foam

It was comfortable and my alignment was better than what I have seen in the current mattress I have. I took a friend with me to help out with that info. The sales guy wasn't pushy either so I think this will be the one mattress I will get. I just need to talk logistics with Room and Board so I am not without a mattress from Urban Mattress needs to order the mattress for me, they don't have full size in stock at the store.

Thanks again for all the information.
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Frustrated and in so much pain 11 Nov 2017 13:54 #39

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Hi fridadc,

Thanks for the clarification from Urban Mattress on those specs versus their web site - I appreciate it. While the 2" of 3 lb of memory foam is lower density than what I would normally advise, I hope that this is the one that provides the relief you're seeking!

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Frustrated and in so much pain 17 Jan 2018 06:11 #40

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Hi Phoenix:

Happy New Year!

Unfortunately, I think I might not have resolved my issues finding a new mattress. While the mattress I got from Urban Mattress is much comfortable for my lower back and hips, I am experiencing other issues. I have been sleeping on the new mattress consistently for 2 weeks (long story short, I didn't get the new mattress until much recently and with the holidays I didn't get to sleep on it until I came back from vacation), and I have been experiencing shoulder, neck and arm pain on my right side (I am a side sleeper and I tend to sleep on that side). I am using the same pillow I had in the past, which caused me no pain at all. I am at a bit of a loss now because I am not sure what to do. Even when I sleep on my left side, the pain on the right is awful. I was barely able to sleep last night. I ended up taking my pillow and sleeping more comfortably in the couch.

Urban Mattress won't exchange a mattress until you have been sleeping on it for 30 days. So I will continue to sleep on it until that time period is up to make sure this is not an adjustment to the mattress issue. But if I cannot get the pain to go away, I will likely exchange it, which will leave me looking for another mattress with them (they won't issue refunds, just exchanges).

I have one the Uptown mattress from them and it's probably the softest they have. I don't like the feel of latex and I am quite sensitive to the fumes of the memory foam (the Uptown has a layer of memory foam but it's located at the bottom between the coils and the polyfoam layers so it doesn't bother me). I tried one of their memory foam mattresses while I was there (urbanmattress.com/product/taos-plush-memory-foam-mattress/) and my alignment was off.

My alignment with the new mattress is great so I am not sure what else I would need in order for me to get rid of this awful pain on my right shoulder and arm. Any suggestions?

Thank you in advance for your help.
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