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Eco Sleep Hybrid Latex - looking for comments 04 May 2017 19:56 #1



After countless hours of research, then buying a sleep number bed, and a 3" sealy 4 lb topper, I know I definitely need something completely different. From what I've gathered, a hybrid mattress may be a great solution. They're very expensive, but there's a new one called the "Eco Sleep Hybrid Latex" HERE from Arizona Premium Mattress (mattresses.net), and it's only $900 for a King. There's also a YouTube video of it. I'm going to check out some mattress stores here in the Detroit area before I make my final decision, but I'm looking for any comments or suggestions the pros (you guys) have about this product.

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Eco Sleep Hybrid Latex - looking for comments 05 May 2017 11:55 #2

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Eco Sleep Hybrid Latex - looking for comments 05 May 2017 15:46 #3

Hi jstevanus,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :)

After countless hours of research, then buying a sleep number bed, and a 3" sealy 4 lb topper, I know I definitely need something completely different.


Unfortunately, I don’t think that research was done here, as we could have helped you with some advice about that purchase. I’m sorry your air mattress isn’t working out well for you :( , but hopefully the information here and on the rest of site can assist you in making a better-informed decision this go-around.

From what I've gathered, a hybrid mattress may be a great solution. They're very expensive, but there's a new one called the "Eco Sleep Hybrid Latex" HERE from Arizona Premium Mattress


While many people do prefer a pocketed spring mattress using latex or memory foam on top, only your own personal testing would determine whether such a product might agree with your particular needs and sleeping style.

Like anything, a hybrid mattress can be expensive, but there are some more affordable options available, some from the site members listed in post #21 here .

The Eco Sleep is a new model (thanks for bringing it up) using the 6" Bolsa pocketed spring unit from Leggett and Platt. The mattresses.net web site shows the Caliber Edge version of this spring unit, but they don’t mention it in the video or on their web site as using the version with the actual Caliber Edge (I couldn’t tell from the video either). Just that it is 13.75 gauge steel and the 6” version. I’ve recently seen this new spring unit from Leggett and it is a firm support unit and an improvement upon their older version. This spring unit would be a more basic version of the Combi-Zone Quantum Edge spring unit Arizona Premium uses in their Ultimate Hybrid mattress. The latex is 3” of blended Talalay, which is a high quality and durable material, available in four firmnesses. The zippered cover is quilted to natural wool, like in the Ultimate Hybrid.

Overall the mattress uses good quality and durable materials, and this mattress would be considered a more affordable latex hybrid mattress as compared to their Ultimate Hybrid product. Arizona Premium (mattresses.net) is a member of this site which means that I think very highly of them and that I believe that they compete well with the best in the industry in terms of their quality, value, service, knowledge, and transparency.

I'm going to check out some mattress stores here in the Detroit area before I make my final decision, but I'm looking for any comments or suggestions the pros (you guys) have about this product.


If you’re attempting to decipher how this mattress might feel by testing out other products locally, unless you are able to find a product that used the same spring unit with the same latex in the same softness and thickness, and the same covering, it would be mostly wasted time, as every component within a mattress influences the overall feel, support and comfort.

When you can't test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help "talk you through" the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and "feel" of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness etc.) and the options they have available that may be the best "match" for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the "averages" of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about "matching" their specific mattress designs, options, and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.

As for recommendations, there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved in choosing a mattress for someone else to make specific suggestions based on specs (either yours or a mattress) or theory at a distance that can possible be more accurate than your own careful and objective testing (using the testing guidelines in the tutorial post) which is always the most reliable way to predict which mattress will be the best match for you in terms of PPP ( see post #2 here ). Instead, the commentary here focuses more on the “how” to choose versus the “what”, along with assistance in assessing the quality of materials used in a mattress, which in this case would be higher quality and durable materials.

You may wish to place a phone call to mattresses.net with any specific questions you have if you are considering ordering this item, as they will be best able to give you specifics about this mattress along with their opinion of which plushness might best suit your needs.

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Eco Sleep Hybrid Latex - looking for comments 09 May 2017 07:31 #4

Thanks Phoenix,

I went to Mattress-To-Go, which you recommended HERE . The owner, Jeff, was very knowledgeable, just as you said. He had me try several mattresses, and I was surprised that the softest bed in my price range (he rated it as a 7/10) was the best fit for me at $900 for a king. It was the Therapedic BackSense Elite Potomac Plush . Just for fun, I tried one of the $3000 all-latex beds. They were definitely the best, but way out of my price-range. However, he had one latex bed he rated at a 6/10 for softness, which should have been more firm than the 7/10 inner-spring I liked, but I definitely felt like I sunk into it more. I'm still tempted by the Eco Sleep Hybrid, but since it doesn't come with a box spring, I'll probably end up going with this local one. Thank you very much for your help, and your very informative website. If it weren't for this site, I'd never have found that guy.

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Eco Sleep Hybrid Latex - looking for comments 09 May 2017 10:29 #5

Reply to jstevanus,

Thank you for the update.

I went to Mattress-To-Go, which you recommended HERE . The owner, Jeff, was very knowledgeable, just as you said.


I'm glad you enjoyed your visit with Jeff at Mattress To Go. I think very highly of him and the advice he provides.

He had me try several mattresses, and I was surprised that the softest bed in my price range (he rated it as a 7/10) was the best fit for me at $900 for a king.


I know Jeff is conservative with what he offers on his floor regarding offerings in the lower price ranges and doesn't carry some of the "very plush" beds that are common in the industry using lower density foams.

Just for fun, I tried one of the $3000 all-latex beds. They were definitely the best, but way out of my price-range. However, he had one latex bed he rated at a 6/10 for softness, which should have been more firm than the 7/10 inner-spring I liked, but I definitely felt like I sunk into it more.


The subjective softness ratings commonly used in brick and mortar stores are useful for comparing items within like lines, but when going from items using different components (innerspring/polyfoam to all-latex) they won't be as accurate for ranking beds, and your own personal testing will be the best guide. The all-latex bed will certainly have more point elasticity than the innerspring/polyfoam model you tested.

I'm still tempted by the Eco Sleep Hybrid, but since it doesn't come with a box spring, I'll probably end up going with this local one.


The Eco Sleep Hybrid does use good quality componentry as well.

Thank you very much for your help, and your very informative website. If it weren't for this site, I'd never have found that guy.


I'm glad the information presented here has been helpful to you, and I'll be interested in learning what you decide to do, if anything.

Phoenix
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Eco Sleep Hybrid Latex - looking for comments 10 May 2017 06:39 #6

Hi Phoenix,

I'm still curious about the Eco Sleep. I can't test it, but since I now know I need a medium-soft mattress, maybe that would help select the right firmness for the talalay? They have 4 firmness levels to pick from: 19, 28, 32, and 36. I'd guess I'd need a 28 or 32. They do offer a one time exchange of the latex for around $100 too. Also, instead of the box spring, I could get a platform bed like THIS or THIS and it would give me the same height as a frame with box spring, correct?

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Eco Sleep Hybrid Latex - looking for comments 10 May 2017 13:04 #7

Hi jstevanus,

but since I now know I need a medium-soft mattress, maybe that would help select the right firmness for the talalay? They have 4 firmness levels to pick from: 19, 28, 32, and 36. I'd guess I'd need a 28 or 32.


Terms like “medium-soft” are relative only to your own manner of comparing one item to another, and they are something that can not be made definitive or standardized, as these ratings are personal and subjective. The best advice I could offer would be a detailed phone conversation with mattresses.net explain to them your needs and sleeping style and other items that you’ve tested and liked, and they’ll do their best to provide you with the appropriate ILD of latex that they honestly think will work best for your situation.

Also, instead of the box spring, I could get a platform bed like THIS or THIS and it would give me the same height as a frame with box spring, correct?


The frame offered at mattresses.net would be about 1” shorter than a “standard” foundation and frame, and the zinus item would be about 3” taller. So, you’d “be in the ballpark” with either item.

Phoenix
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Eco Sleep Hybrid Latex - looking for comments 11 May 2017 06:23 #8

Thanks again for all your help Phoenix! I've been emailing back and forth with Ken at mattresses.net. I told him about my concern with sinking through the topper, like I did with the memory foam I tried. He assured me that would not happen with the talalay, and he suggested his medium #28 firmness. I just sent back my sleep number bed yesterday, so I have some time before I get my refund. I ended up having to buy the biggest cardboard box Home Depot carried, and stuffing all the components in it. Select Comfort took $30 off my refund for the shipping label, and I'm sure it cost way more than that for the 50+ lb box I brought into UPS. I hope nobody ever buys an air mattress with a pad on top and thinks it's worth $1000-$3000. It's just insane. I got duped, and I'm determined to find the proper bed this time around.

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Eco Sleep Hybrid Latex - looking for comments 11 May 2017 12:52 #9

Hi jstevanus,

Thanks again for all your help Phoenix!


You’re most welcome.

I've been emailing back and forth with Ken at mattresses.net. I told him about my concern with sinking through the topper, like I did with the memory foam I tried. He assured me that would not happen with the talalay, and he suggested his medium #28 firmness.


I’m glad you took the time to phone directly, and I would trust the advice that Ken provides. He is correct that the latex will be more resilient than your memory foam, and you’d tend to “feel through” less in comparison.

I just sent back my sleep number bed yesterday, so I have some time before I get my refund. I ended up having to buy the biggest cardboard box Home Depot carried, and stuffing all the components in it. Select Comfort took $30 off my refund for the shipping label, and I'm sure it cost way more than that for the 50+ lb box I brought into UPS. I hope nobody ever buys an air mattress with a pad on top and thinks it's worth $1000-$3000. It's just insane. I got duped, and I'm determined to find the proper bed this time around.


It's always important to be aware of any company’s potential return/exchange policies before placing an order, just in case things don’t turn out as well as you had hoped they would. While I’m certainly not necessarily a “fan” of most airbeds ( see this article ), I’d avoid making blanket statements about the value of something for someone else based upon your own experience. While the air mattress unfortunately wasn’t “a fit” for you, I wouldn’t call that being “duped”, unless you were deceived by a salesperson when making your purchase. I would instead simply chalk this up to experience and that you now know that a system using an air bladder isn’t something that you personally prefer.

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Eco Sleep Hybrid Latex - looking for comments 16 May 2017 09:53 #10

Hi Phoenix,

I did some more shopping, at Gardner White, since you specifically mentioned their Restonic Tempagel. I tried it out, but the top layer was too soft, and I bottomed out to the hard coil layer pretty quickly. The sales woman had me try at least a dozen other mattresses. I really liked the feel of the Beautyrest Hybrid
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But even better, was the Tempur-Flex Supreme Breeze and the Tempur-Cloud Supreme Breeze . I'm really glad I've actually laid on the best mattresses so far. But at $4000, that's way out of my price range. I know there's no way to make a DIY bed because the "Tempur" foam they use is patented, so I'll have to keep searching stores until I find something similar. There's an Ikea near me, and they have a King MORGONGÅVA latex for $1100, so I'll go check that out. In the meantime, I emailed Ken at mattresses.net to see what he thinks would compare to a medium tempurpedic.

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