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It's bed time again 20 Apr 2017 06:40 #11

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Let me know how it goes. Hopefully they can make it work for you.

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It's bed time again 20 Apr 2017 07:53 #12

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They did get back to me quickly. Mattresses.com also got back to me. I guess it comes down to the Combi-Zone (Mattresses.com) vs Bolsa Nested (MyGreenMattress) coils. Which system would be better for a big guy with lower back pain?

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It's bed time again 20 Apr 2017 08:04 #13

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They did get back to me quickly. Mattresses.com also got back to me. I guess it comes down to the Combi-Zone (Mattresses.com) vs Bolsa Nested (MyGreenMattress) coils. Which system would be better for a big guy with lower back pain?


You'd probably need to wait for Phoenix on this one. When I asked the same question I was told it wouldn't be too noticeable of a difference but I am also only 145lbs. From the looks of it I wonder if MyGreenMattress might be better as they use a thicker gauge coil in the center vs the Combi-zone which uses thinner coils but more of them in the center third however I am no expert here.

Beyond that it comes down to small things. Mattrresses.net gives you a Talalay option (personally I prefer the feel of dunlop anyway) and also lets you swap out the top layer at any time down the road with its zippered cover. MyGreenMattress is less expensive and offers a 100 night trial as opposed to Mattresses.net which makes you cover shipping costs on any return or exchange. Also MyGreenMattress seems to have much faster shipping times, last I talked to Mattresses.net they told me at least 2-3 weeks before they would ship.

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It's bed time again 20 Apr 2017 09:06 #14

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I do like the wool in the green mattress.

The combi-zone offers 56 more coils. I'm not sure how much of a difference that will really make. I do wonder if the higher guage coils would hold up better for a person my size. Even if the combi-zone is initially more comfortable, the bolsa nested coils may end up being more comfortable in 5 years if they hold up better for me -- but this is purely speculation.

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It's bed time again 20 Apr 2017 15:43 #15

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Hi drog,

It seems Mattresses.net has something very close to what I want for the price I want (3 inches of latex over a combi-zone coil system), they don't seem to offer it in 36 ILD latex however, and they have not responded to my inquiry about that yet.


Did you phone them? That’s usually the best way to get a fast response. They’ll create a custom spec for you if it’s available in their supply.

Luma has been very responsive, but I'm not sure if 1.5 inches of latex over the combi-zone coil system is enough in their base mattress


I’m glad that they’ve been able to answer your questions. With a pocketed spring unit, many people are able to be quite comfortable with fewer foam comfort layers because of the contouring nature of the pocketed spring, but of course that can only be determined by your own personal testing.

I was planning to go all out and get something like the Christeli Lux Estate if I had to go over $1,200.


The Christeli uses good quality materials, but this would of course be more of a memory foam bed, even though it uses a latex support core.

but the price of the base mattress is now $100 more expensive so that is not such a great deal anymore.


Don’t forget the Mattress Underground discount from Luma of 10% or more. I don’t know if you factored that into your pricing or not.

They did get back to me quickly. Mattresses.com also got back to me. I guess it comes down to the Combi-Zone (Mattresses.com) vs Bolsa Nested (MyGreenMattress) coils. Which system would be better for a big guy with lower back pain?


Both systems would provide good deep down support and be durable. For a larger individual, you may notice a more distinct difference in the zones with the Combi-Zone unit over the Nested . Good support to promote more neutral alignment can assist in not exacerbating low back pain, but unfortunately they haven't invented a specific spring unit to fix low back pain yet! ;)


Hi landale1,

Thanks for all of your helpful comments!

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It's bed time again 20 Apr 2017 16:15 #16

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So the difference in gauge (14.5 - 15.5 vs 16 - 17) does not make a difference for durability? 17 gauge seems kind of thin, but If that's the case and the combi-zone would support me better I will order the mattress from mattresses.com.

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It's bed time again 20 Apr 2017 16:49 #17

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Hi drog,

Both spring units would do a find job providing adequate support. Note that the thinner springs in the Combi-Zone are also smaller in diameter and more numerous, so that impacts support as well. An innerspring isn't normally the weak link in a mattress and the gauge of steel is only one of many factors that determines how a particular innerspring will feel and perform inside a specific mattress design. There is more about the different types of innersprings in this article and in post #10 here but I would pay much more attention to the quality of the materials above the innerspring which is normally the weakest link in a mattress. Post #16 also talks about different innerspring designs and how they work. Hopefully all of this will give you a little more insight to the pocketed spring unit, and also an appreciation of how complicated it is for these engineers to come up with these designs. B)

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It's bed time again 21 Apr 2017 10:57 #18

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I just called Mattresses.net. After discussing my previous issues they recommended their hybrid with 32 ILD Dunlop as a starting point so that's what I did (it's usually a range but he said he could ensure I got the 32 ILD latex layer). If it doesn't work out then I can just exchange the Latex. I'm still concerned that the 32 ILD won't be enough but it's also possible the 1.8 pound density base support on my last bed was a big contributor to my issues with it (along with the differences between tallalay and dunlop).

I'm not thrilled about the shipping costs or the fact I would have to pay shipping on new comfort layers (he said shipping would be $50 for the exchange so hope that means I don't have to pay another $50 to send the old comfort layer back -- that would be $100). On the other hand, I'm just annoyed at spending so much money on something and I got the better coil system with more customization options down the road than what I'd have with the Green Mattress product.

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It's bed time again 21 Apr 2017 11:42 #19

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I just called Mattresses.net. After discussing my previous issues they recommended their hybrid with 32 ILD Dunlop as a starting point so that's what I did (it's usually a range but he said he could ensure I got the 32 ILD latex layer). If it doesn't work out then I can just exchange the Latex. I'm still concerned that the 32 ILD won't be enough but it's also possible the 1.8 pound density base support on my last bed was a big contributor to my issues with it (along with the differences between tallalay and dunlop).

I'm not thrilled about the shipping costs or the fact I would have to pay shipping on new comfort layers (he said shipping would be $50 for the exchange so hope that means I don't have to pay another $50 to send the old comfort layer back -- that would be $100). On the other hand, I'm just annoyed at spending so much money on something and I got the better coil system with more customization options down the road than what I'd have with the Green Mattress product.


Congrats on the purchase. I will likely make one myself as well. I agree with you that I very much like that I can change the top layer down the road with mattresses.net but I don't like the nearly $150 higher price. At least for my body type Phoenix had indicated I wouldn't notice much of a difference in the coil units plus I like the 100 day risk free trial with MyGreenMattress as well as all of the certifications. Of course this is why we get choices! :)

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It's bed time again 21 Apr 2017 14:44 #20

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Hi drog,

I just called Mattresses.net. After discussing my previous issues they recommended their hybrid with 32 ILD Dunlop as a starting point so that's what I did (it's usually a range but he said he could ensure I got the 32 ILD latex layer).


Congratulations on your new Mattresses.net purchase! :) You certainly did choose something that is a good quality/value. I’ll be interested in learning about your experience with your new mattress once you’ve had a chance to sleep on it a while and adjust to it.

I'm not thrilled about the shipping costs or the fact I would have to pay shipping on new comfort layers (he said shipping would be $50 for the exchange so hope that means I don't have to pay another $50 to send the old comfort layer back -- that would be $100).


Shipping is always a cost associated with any online purchase. Many brands choose to include it in the final cost of the mattress, while others like Mattresses.net figure the actual shipping after the fact so that your rates reflect your actual shipping fees. I’m not sure if the $50 quoted you was for the entire shipping exchange process, but you are responsible for the shipping fees associated with any exchange. You may wish to phone them back for clarification, as you always want to be completely aware of all the exchange/return policies for an online purchase.

Enjoy your new mattress!

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