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Haven Mattress & Temperature issues + Alpaca Comforter 14 Apr 2017 09:43 #1

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Hi, I am wondering if you know anything about the Haven Mattress in Canada. I cannot find much information about them. www.havenmattress.ca/?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PPC&utm_content=Motiliti

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Haven Mattress & Temperature issues + Alpaca Comforter 14 Apr 2017 14:08 #2

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Hi ltoth,

Hi, I am wondering if you know anything about the Haven Mattress in Canada.


Haven is another of the newer “simplified choice” mattress brands popping up across the landscape. Thanks for bringing them up, as they have not been mentioned before on the forum. They are founded by Scott and Kelly Amis and are built by Springwall Mattress in Canada, and they say their foams are sourced in Canada as well.

There are two mattresses, the Recharge and the Rejuvenate. The Recharge uses a 3” polyfoam core, upon which is 2” of “PuRGel” memory foam, and on top of this is 1” of gel infused memory foam. The PuRGel is listed at 3.5 lb. density, which is a bit lower than I would normally recommend. I could not find any information about the density of the upper memory foam layer or the polyfoam core. The cover contains Celliant.

The Rejuvenate uses an 8” polyfoam core, on top of which is 1” of the “PuRGel” memory foam, and that is topped with 1” of NgLatex gel infused latex. It is listed as a blended Talalay latex using a gel additive, which would be a high quality material. The density of the polyfoam core is unknown. The PuRGel is listed as 3.5 lb. The cover contains Celliant.

Their polyfoams are CertiPUR-US certified for low VOCs (this isn’t a certification of NO offgassing). They make some claims in their pricing of rather large “savings”, which I would ignore.

Unfortunately, there isn’t enough meaningful information on their web site for me to make further comments, but if you were able to find out the information listed here and post it I would be happy to give my opinion on the quality of the rest of the componentry within their mattresses.

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Haven Mattress & Temperature issues + Alpaca Comforter 14 Apr 2017 22:37 #3

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This is very helpful. Thank you! I found your post on simplified choice mattresses and with this information was able to do some comparisons to others that you already reviewed.

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Haven Mattress & Temperature issues + Alpaca Comforter 15 Apr 2017 09:36 #4

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Hi ltoth,

I’m glad you found the simplified choice thread and it was useful to you. Almost all of the mattresses presented there have complete specifications listed, and of course I would advise you to avoid any mattresses where you couldn’t find out the complete specs.

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Haven Mattress & Temperature issues + Alpaca Comforter 02 May 2017 07:39 #5

Just purchased a Haven mattress to replace an 11 yr old sealy posturepedic and so far loving it after a week of use. me and my wife are now getting a good restful sleep. i am 160 lbs and my wife is 130 lbs. In the beginning i was considering the OSO and Bear mattresses but it was in USD and would cost more and does not ship free. what sold me on this was being made in canada, free shipping and the celliant material. This is our first purchase of a bed in a box and have not tried any other to compare it to. so far happy about it.

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Haven Mattress & Temperature issues + Alpaca Comforter 02 May 2017 12:39 #6

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Hi JoeFil,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :)

Congratulations on your new mattress. :cheer: I hope that you’ll be able to provide some future updates once you’ve had a chance to sleep upon the product for a while longer.

Out of curiosity, were you able to acquire any more information (versus what I’ve already listed in this thread) about the componentry within the mattress to help you make an informed purchase that you could share with the forum members?

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Haven Mattress & Temperature issues + Alpaca Comforter 23 Mar 2019 19:36 #7

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Haven has released a Lux hybrid mattress which consists of the following layers making up 14":

Topper has bamboo/Celliant both help with temp
1” top layer is vented talalay latex with copper
2”cool gel foam (zoned or firm customized
1.5”high density foam
1” 1200 micro coils
8” 1200 pocket coils
.5” insulation layer

I'd love to hear from anyone who has tried this bed and would like Phoenix's opinion on the design. Being a 134 lb side sleeper I would go with the plush version and hope that it isn't too firm. I currently am testing a soft memory foam mattress and it's supportive and comfortable but even with a St Dormeir wool pad (very thin) I find that some nights I wake up several times overheated even in a cold room. I wonder if the Haven Lux being an inner spring mattress with a Talalay pillow top might have better thermal regulating properties. I believe I could adjust the bedding & topper on my memory foam to sleep cooler but with summer & much warmer temperatures coming up I worry. I'm not willing to crank the AC up high enough to keep the temperature at it's current 62-64 F degrees . Part of the issue might be my light weight down duvet which tends to radiate heat back down towards the mattress. Have ordered an alpaca duvet which is supposed to breathe better and considering an alpaca mattress topper but tbh spending an extra $1k on bedding is a fairly expensive solution

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Haven Mattress & Temperature issues + Alpaca Comforter 24 Mar 2019 06:54 #8

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@JoeFil - Which one did you get and what firmness?

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Haven Mattress & Temperature issues + Alpaca Comforter 25 Mar 2019 14:23 #9

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Hi demeter,

Regarding the 14” Haven Lux Pillowtop hybrid on the Canadian market, Haven does not provide on their website the density information of the layers that make up the top 3.5 inches of the bed, that would allow to comment and analyze this mattress. If you find the information listed here and post it in this thread here, I’d be happy to comment upon it.

It seems that you did a bit of research on mattress temperature regulation issues but just in case you did not come across post #2 here you can read more about the many variables that can affect the sleeping temperature of a mattress or sleeping system that can help you choose the types of materials and components that are most likely to keep you in a comfortable temperature range. You are correct that Latex itself is a quite breathable material and being the uppermost layer within the mattress would have the most effect on airflow, moisture transport, and temperature regulation than any materials, layers, and components that are further away from your skin. Pocket and micro coils core is one of the most breathable types of cores that can help with breathability and ventilation ... I’d also keep in mind that the top Latex layer is 1” thick I am not sure how much heat would be trapped by the 3.5” of memory and poly foam between the latex and the coils. While it's also not always possible to track down temperature regulation issues for any particular person on a specific mattress because there are so many variables involved (including your room temperature and humidity, your sheets and bedding and bedclothes, your mattress protector or any mattress pads you are using, and where you are in the "oven to iceberg" range) and some people can sleep warmer on mattresses that most people are generally fine with ... since you are “testing” and have the Novosbed experience, maybe when you “test” the next bed, you will at least have something to compare it against.

Alpacas of Montana has a good article comparing alpaca fleece versus sheep’s wool. Wikipedia has a good article here on Alpaca wool. It's generally finer and lighter and warmer than many types of sheep's wool and similar to Merino wool (which is a breed that produces softer finer wool). It will tend to be less “lofty” than wool, and it is often blended with other fibers. Of course, the overall warmth will be dependent upon the amount of fill in a comforter, but in a similar diameter fiber, the alpaca will be more insulating that wool fiber.

If you are considering an alpaca comforter, you may wish to request a small sample of the fiber beforehand so you may gauge your potential reaction to the product before placing an order.

Looking forward to any further updates on your testing and temperature regulation decisions.

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Haven Mattress & Temperature issues + Alpaca Comforter 25 Mar 2019 18:23 #10

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Thank you so much for your insights Phoenix. I didn't start out to "test" the first bed and really like everything about it except the overheating issue. I was always cold in my old inner spring bed so this has been a surprise. This wonderful site is an education in all things bed & bedding related and a great resource. I'll let you know what I think about the Haven lux and if it doesn't work out I will work with my foam bed and try to modify it with a wool topper. I had them reduce the amount of fill in the comforter so that it will be cooler and look forward to receiving it this week. I had no idea that changing beds would be such an undertaking.

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