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Got my Essentia Stratami Mattress. : ). 15 Jan 2017 06:57 #1

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Got it 2 days ago in the mail. So far I've slept one night without my 3" mem foam topper, then 1 night with it on.

First, just a few words about the mattress. And then my essentia matty tale incl how it's working for me so far. It's a 2-layer 8" (5+3) natural dunlop mattress with a stretchy removable/washable cover. It is described as a medium firm, which is the case, but also not*. Arrives in a box, indeed latex is mad heavy. wow.

The funny thing is there's a few things I'd discovered after my mattress search that entailed trying dozens and dozens of mattresses and actually buying 5 that i hadn't tried in store. HA!

I determined that i didn't like latex and that i wanted soft, and yet I ended up with a medium firm latex mattress. So weird. So how did I end up here? Honestly, the mem foam and spring beds i really liked were out of my price range, they tended to be over $3k (TP, ViSpring, Essentia, etc) or didn't have quality foams (looking at you, big brand coil mattresses). And nothing *under* 3k in my area was working for me! Prolly coulda done a nice under $2k custom made at dixie foam (as I found his zoned dunlop core quite comfortable), but wasn't sure so kept looking.

I had been to the Essentia store in the past before they even had these models and fell in love with their memory foam mattresses. I'm not a stickler re: natural products so their padded "natural memory foam" claims passed right over me. Didn't care. But just couldn't afford them.

I went in again last month to show a friend the pillows and saw their 2 new latex only models, Stratami and Bionda. Got on the Stratami (the firmer model) and was shocked that I didn't have pressure on my hip! Tried the soft version, the Bionda and while it felt softer, for some reason I it didn't suit me as much as i felt it on my hip MORE. Actually, I didn't feel like the Bionda was much softer, just...more lively, or less substantial or something. Who knows. So after trying the Stratami on 2 different days I bit the bullet during a sale and bought the $2,100 for a full sized mattress, (2nd lowest price point of their line) planning most likely to use with a topper. Even though technically an 8" latex can be bought cheaper elsewhere, no finished latex model I tried in any store at even $3K models felt right, except for one $3,500 one at Scott Jordan). Heck, half of them made me feel as if it were trying to bounce me off them. And the others I felt just wouldn't conform and feel cuddly enough to take care of pressure relief. I was just rolling around on a flat surface and my hip just wasn't comfortable. That's just how i felt, of course every one is different.

Why didn't this one give me pressure pain? Well, i think it is a few reasons maybe: the scalloped design on top (I remember the IMO wave latex topper had the same result) and maybe b/c no wool padding perhaps (OMI mattys use a wave design too but top it with wool and they don't suit me), Their super stretchy cover could also be the reason. Great cover by the way, super stretchy and feels really nice- soft and high quality. And also possibly b/c (strangely) the core is quite soft! So much so that when squeezing, I could swear it's softer than the top! If it weren't for the top wave design i would swear i have the mattress upside down. Weird.

So, strangely, while it is feels firm in a way to lie on, and after 1 full night of tossing and turning because of the firmness, there was still zero pressure pain. Usually on any firm even most medium mattress my thigh and hips are on fire, not so for this. Bizarre, but hey, no complaints. Maybe the Bionda would also work for me with a fairly thin topper but I was so worried about alignment i felt the Stratami would also be a safer bet even though it was $500 more. Hopefully this lack of pressure points remains the case, only been a day or 2.

I haven't decided whether I will try to stick it out sans topper for a couple of weeks to see if I can adjust to the firmness (prolly will try) or test it out with my 3" memory foam topper and see if alignment becomes an issue. But I'm excited b/c for sure this is better FOR ME than the other the memory foam and latex mattresses i tried (owned Cocoon Soft, Novosbed Soft, MyCloud, Nest Alexander Medium, 12 in 1 dreamfoam, latex toppers, mem foam toppers), the many latex mattys i tried in stores... i just couldn't get them to conform to or feel right for my light and apparently quite sensitive and fussy frame, except for MyCloud Nimbus which felt great but threw my alignment off something crazy.

Anyway, while my dream bed is the Essentia Dormeuse memory foam mattress (It's over $4K when on sale! ay yi yi) I think this one has potential to work for me. *fingers crossed*

I think Essentia is very clever, they seem to have done something quite right in all their mattresses, at least for my frame and my preferences. There's not a mattress in the darn store I wouldn't have in my house (except Classic 8, too firm for me).

So there is hopefully the tail end of this saga, and I will tweak the matty as needed. I am dying to try the new Tempurpedic "Adaptive topper", (supposedly matches their 'Cloud' series, my fave TP line) but since i already have the "supreme" i might just be being silly. I almost feel like I could go for a 2" instead! But last thing I want to do is start topper buying. :P. I've been through enough as it is.

Customer service was fine. The first woman i talked to was an awesome doll. The one I met on the 2nd day was a little annoyed with how back and forth i was after I came in AGAIN after purchasing before they shipped, to make sure I made the right choice. Oh well.

Mattress arrived about 10 days after I ordered, which she told me before hand might be the case.

Hopefully this mattress will work out, good price point, seems well made, and should last a long time.

And this pic is for you Phoenix, i thought you might find it interesting. Interesting top layer. Those lengthwise cut outs in the top layer seem to go all the way through. How inventive.
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Got my Essentia Stratami Mattress. : ). 15 Jan 2017 12:30 #2

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Hi paisley,

Thank you for your feedback about your new mattress, and I’m glad you like it.:cheer: You may have found one of your issues with chasing too soft of a mattress, and sinking in too deeply may have been causing the pressure on your hips. I wouldn’t be in a hurry to buy more toppers. I would give yourself a chance to adjust to the new mattress and not be concerned with what you “think” you should have but instead just pay attention to how you’re sleeping and go from there.

And this pic is for you Phoenix, i thought you might find it interesting. Interesting top layer. Those lengthwise cut outs in the top layer seem to go all the way through

The top is sculpted – a “version” of a convoluted foam, creating a bit more of a contouring top surface..

Good luck with your progress!

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Got my Essentia Stratami Mattress. : ). 15 Jan 2017 12:56 #3

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Hi paisley,

Thank you for your feedback about your new mattress, and I’m glad you like it.:cheer: You may have found one of your issues with chasing too soft of a mattress, and sinking in too deeply may have been causing the pressure on your hips. I wouldn’t be in a hurry to buy more toppers.

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Oh how i wish. All the pressure point-free mattys i love are soft. Tempurpedic Elite, Essentia Dormeuse, all those soft Macy's Hotel mattresses by Airloom. *sigh*. I do like some medium, slept in a hotel room once where not very hard, not very soft matty was so good, but not going that route for sure. From all i learned here. ; )

I would give yourself a chance to adjust to the new mattress and not be concerned with what you “think” you should have but instead just pay attention to how you’re sleeping and go from there.


Will do. It will be hard but i think i can do it. (waiting 2 weeks before purchasing anything).

The top is sculpted – a “version” of a convoluted foam


Yeah, i know. Just figured you'd like the cutaway. :D. I love a sculpted top on latex, only way to go for me apparently. Feels great.

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Got my Essentia Stratami Mattress. : ). 16 Jan 2017 09:33 #4

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Hi paisley,

I’m glad you’re giving yourself time to adjust to things. Your body just might surprise your mind with what it really likes! ;)

And yes, thank you for the photo. There is a myriad of engineered, sculpted and molded foams, especially in Europe (becoming more popular slowly in the USA), that are quite interesting in design and allow for different comforts not normally achieved with solid sheets of foam.

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Got my Essentia Stratami Mattress. : ). 17 Jan 2017 09:00 #5

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Ouch! So far I feel like someone beat me up. lol. I woke up on my 2nd night of sleeping like someone beat certain parts of my body. Ouchy. Lasted all day. Tried the again last night and my parts were still feeling like a brusin' were so sensitive i couldn't even lie on them. Funnily enough, still no pressure point pain (the kind where it feels hot/on fire that goes away as soon as the contact is gone).

And my topper on top is wicked soft, not in a good way. What do you think about just getting a 30ish ILD core and putting a mem foam topper on it?

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Got my Essentia Stratami Mattress. : ). 17 Jan 2017 15:12 #6

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Hi paisley,

Did you try going back to sleeping without the topper on the item? It seems that you were more comfortable in that configuration initially.

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Got my Essentia Stratami Mattress. : ). 17 Jan 2017 15:17 #7

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Yeah, after a little bit last night of being sore and in pain, i wanted so much to stick it out, but definitely was not an option. Lying on it now with the topper, much better. A little gooey but sleepable for sure. Gonna try this config out for a little while, hopefully okie dokie. : ).

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Got my Essentia Stratami Mattress. : ). 17 Jan 2017 16:18 #8

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Hi paisley,

Hopefully the topper will provide you more comfort. At least you'll be able to see if you get slightly better results and it helps point you in a better direction.

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Got my Essentia Stratami Mattress. : ). 23 Jan 2017 12:42 #9

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So far it's definitely soft enough to sleep on, and a pleasant soft, but a little *too* soft and is slightly affecting my back/spine. Right now i have a 3" tempurpedic topper so I think 2" would be better.

4lb or 5lb seems reasonable. The problem i see is this, i love the way the Tempurpedic is that melty type of foam, highly conforming. Some store stuff i've felt is less so, but possibly not terrible. Best way to go is on the internet, as store ones are usually 3lb or less foam i'm betting. Anything with that melty way about it out there that you know of? That quick sand sort of thing. By comparison and for example, a while ago i bought a gel mem foam from Brooklyn Bedding, it was just like a soft foam, no handprint quality at all. So i guess i'm looking for that kind that leaves a serious imprint.

What are your thoughts on going to 2", is that the right move? Or should i go for a firmer 3".

Thanks.

Part of me feels terrible that i bought a $2,000 base pretty much, but nothing else has that pressure reducing sculpted top, and i guess 8" of latex at 2k isn't the absolute worst thing i could do.

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Got my Essentia Stratami Mattress. : ). 23 Jan 2017 16:11 #10

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Hi paisley,

4lb or 5lb seems reasonable. The problem i see is this, i love the way the Tempurpedic is that melty type of foam, highly conforming. So i guess i'm looking for that kind that leaves a serious imprint.

While I don’t know specifically how to define “melty”, it sounds like you’re looking for a more “old school” memory foam feel with slower recovery and a bit more of a “dense” feel. You may wish to look at some of the memory foam topper suppliers listed in post #4 here . Both Rocky Mountain Mattress and MattresTopper.com have “old school” 5 lb. memory foam without gel additives that you may like. Your best course of action would be a phone conversation with any business you’re considering and describe to them what you’re trying to match and they’ll be best able to advise you if they have anything available to closely match what you’re trying to find.

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