Hi susiebmck,
Ok, so after going through the list that was linked for latex sources we went with a Sleeping Organic topper. They're regional to us and offered free fast shipping and were super helpful on the phone.
Sleeping Organic is a member here, which means that I think highly of them and their advice. I’m happy they were helpful to you on the phone.
We ended up with a 3" Organic Dunlop Soft topper which has a rating of 18-22 ILD. So it's been a week and we are still waking up with shoulder and hip pain and tossing and turning a bunch. We're on a Latex Bliss Pamper base (40 ILD base and 21 ILD comfort layer). Do we need ANOTHER softer layer? Help please, we need some comfortable sleep.
I’m sorry your new topper doesn’t seem to be providing you enough comfort yet. In choosing the plush Dunlop, you “effectively” duplicated the upper layer of the Pamper mattress. I know the ILDs are different, and you’re using a Dunlop topper versus Talalay in the Pamper, but the “overall” range of plushness is similar.
While I can’t feel what you feel and can’t recommend a specific combination or style of comfort layer via an online post, it certainly may be that you desire a bit more surface comfort on top of your mattress and this topper was either not plush enough (low enough ILD) or there wasn’t enough plush material (not thick enough) for your personal PPP.
You could consider changing your current topper to Talalay in the plush or ultra plush range, but I don’t believe that there is an exchange option for your product. If you’re keeping your existing topper and after more time you find that you desire more plushness, it is possible that another 2” or so of a plush or ultra plush Talalay might provide you extra comfort.
Did you at least notice that the overall combination was more comfortable for you with the topper on the mattress as opposed to sleeping on the mattress without the topper?
One other thing you may wish to check is the orientation of the foam inside of your topper cover. If it is a 3” core of Dunlop (as opposed to a slit piece), it can feel a little softer with the “slightly dimpled” surface facing upward. I don’t know if this is the style that you have, but It’s worth checking.
Overall, I’d see if you could try out the toper for another few weeks, but if you can’t, the best advice I can offer is the general “theory at a distance" I listed previously.
I’m interested to hear what you end up deciding to do or if I may help with more specific questions.
Phoenix