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Help with choosing a latex mattress 25 Jan 2016 12:31 #1

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Hello,
I need to purchase new mattresses for my family. After lots of research, I decided that I would like to buy latex mattresses with wool and cotton as the natural fire retardant protection. I have looked at flo beds, plush beds and many other companies. I read a post here about the difference between latex that comes from the US compared with latex from Malaysia. The poster mentioned that it's not necessarily natural even though it may be stated by the company. They settled on a mattress from green sleep. I was wondering if there were any other companies I should be looking at.. I have several beds that I to need to purchase so cost is a consideration. It is a huge decision and I want to get it right. Can I please get some guidance on selecting a mattress that is 100% real deal latex, I don't want hybrid or anything unnatural as I am concerned about off gassing. Thank you so much., I really appreciate the help.

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Help with choosing a latex mattress 25 Jan 2016 13:46 #2

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Hi CarrieP,

I switched your post to a new topic of its own so it wouldn't get mixed in with many other posts in a more general topic.

I'm assuming that you've read the mattress shopping tutorial (which is the first place to start your research) but two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you've read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best "match" for you in terms of "comfort" and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.

I have looked at flo beds, plush beds and many other companies.


You can see some comments about Plushbeds in post #2 here and a forum search on Plushbeds (you can just click the link) will bring up much more information and comments/feedback about them as well. They use good quality and durable materials in their mattresses (natural or organic Dunlop and Talalay latex) and they would certainly be a "better than average" choice compared to most of the mainstream mattresses that most people end up buying. They do a lot of internet advertising so they do attract a lot of online attention for those that are looking for a latex mattress. They are also in a higher budget range than many other similar mattresses so I would make some careful "value comparisons" with some of the other component latex options that are available to you.

Flobeds is one of the members of this site which means that I think very highly of them and I believe that they compete well with the best in the industry in terms of their quality, value, service, knowledge, and transparency. They have some unique designs including their vZone (see post #4 here ) which allows you to customize the zoning of the mattress not just the layering. A forum search on Flobeds (you can just click this link as well) will also bring up many more comments and feedback about them as well.

I read a post here about the difference between latex that comes from the US compared with latex from Malaysia. The poster mentioned that it's not necessarily natural even though it may be stated by the company. They settled on a mattress from green sleep. I was wondering if there were any other companies I should be looking at..


There is more about the different types and blends of latex in post #6 here and there is more about some of the general differences between Dunlop and Talalay in post #7 here but the choice between different types and blends of latex is more of a preference and budget choice than a "better/worse" choice. Most of the latex that comes from Malaysia would be 100% natural Dunlop but the best source of information about the type and blend of latex in any particular mattress would be the retailer or manufacturer that sells it ... assuming that they are knowledgeable and transparent about the materials in their mattresses.

Can I please get some guidance on selecting a mattress that is 100% real deal latex, I don't want hybrid or anything unnatural as I am concerned about off gassing.


Any type of latex (synthetic or natural) is "real" latex. All of the latex you are likely to encounter (either Dunlop or Talalay that is made with either natural or synthetic rubber or a blend of both) will have a reliable safety certification such as Oeko-Tex, Eco-Institut, or Greenguard Gold (see post #2 here ) and based on actual testing I would consider any type or blend of latex to be a very "safe" material in terms of harmful substances and VOC's.

I was wondering if there were any other companies I should be looking at..


If you let me know your city or zip code I'd be happy to let you know about the better options or possibilities I'm aware of in your area.

If you are also considering online options then the tutorial includes a link to a list of the members here that sell mattresses online (in the optional online step) and many of them sell latex and latex hybrid mattresses that use different types and blends of latex (including organic Dunlop latex) that have a wide range of different designs, options, features, return and exchange policies, and prices that that would be well worth considering.

When you can't test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help "talk you through" the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and "feel" of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness etc) and the options they have available that may be the best "match" for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the "averages" of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about "matching" their specific mattress designs and any firmness level options they have to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.

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Help with choosing a latex mattress 25 Jan 2016 14:18 #3

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Thank you very much for all your help. I will look at the suggested links. I live in Burlington MA 01803.

Thanks so much,

Carrie

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Help with choosing a latex mattress 25 Jan 2016 14:41 #4

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Hi CarrieP,

I live in Burlington MA 01803.


The better options or possibilities I'm aware of in and around the Boston, MA area that would include Burlington, MA (subject to making sure that any mattress you are considering meets the quality/value guidelines I linked in my last reply) are listed in post #2 here .

You certainly have some good options available in the area and I would make sure that you include a trip to Spindle Mattress who is one of the members of this site and sells a great quality/value component latex mattress that uses 100% natural continuous pour Dunlop latex that is made in the US (by Mountaintop latex) and has a wool quilted organic cotton cover.

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Help with choosing a latex mattress 02 Feb 2016 11:22 #5

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Hi all,

I just wanted to chime in and say thank you, I have been researching to no end mattress's, suppliers, materials and this has been a great resource.

'I can't tell you how much bad information exists in this area with such a lack of science and unbiased education. My wife and I have had a tempurpedic for 4 years and I have connected chronic hamstring problems to a lack of support. so we started searching for a bed with more support since running and ultra runs are core to our life.

after looking at different types, we tried a casper and many others, finally we settled on what I hope is our last choice. I just ordered from FloBeds and not astrabeds. I can thank you for that choice as Astrabeds has a pretty savvy marketing arm putting lots of lipstick on the pig(in terms of what they promise vs what they deliver). I should get my Flobed next week, I will update with my experience. I have returned my casper and others as it was frankly pretty bad in terms of comfort. Casper was awesome with service though, I will give them that..

Thanks again for all your Work Phoenix.

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Help with choosing a latex mattress 02 Feb 2016 13:52 #6

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Hi GoDucks08,

'I can't tell you how much bad information exists in this area with such a lack of science and unbiased education. My wife and I have had a tempurpedic for 4 years and I have connected chronic hamstring problems to a lack of support. so we started searching for a bed with more support since running and ultra runs are core to our life.


I certainly agree with you that there is a lot of misinformation or very misleading information in the industry!

I just ordered from FloBeds and not astrabeds. I can thank you for that choice as Astrabeds has a pretty savvy marketing arm putting lots of lipstick on the pig(in terms of what they promise vs what they deliver). I should get my Flobed next week, I will update with my experience.


As you know I think you made a great quality choice ... and congratulations on your new mattress :)

I'm looking forward to your comments and feedback once you've received it and have had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.

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Help with choosing a latex mattress 19 Feb 2016 11:57 #7

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Hi,

I am still on my journey to find the right matress. We visited Spindle and Kim was very informative, friendly and helpful. I wanted to find out what ingredients that make up the five percent in the matress. Kin said that the manufacturer does not tell them exactly what is used other than a list of things like zinc oxide, fatty acid soaps.

If I go ahead with a purchase I want to be confident there is nothing I should be concerned about. What are your thoughts?

The matress felt very comfortable but I am just making sure the choice of Dunlop over talalay is a sensible one. Flo beds and Plush are quite a bit more money. Is it worth paying more? It's difficult because we can't test them to see.. What are your thoughts?

Thanks so much,

Carrie

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Help with choosing a latex mattress 19 Feb 2016 13:27 #8

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Hi CarrieP,

If I go ahead with a purchase I want to be confident there is nothing I should be concerned about. What are your thoughts?


All the latex you are likely to encounter (either Dunlop or Talalay that is made with either natural or synthetic rubber or a blend of both) will have a reliable certification such as Oeko-Tex, Eco-Institut, or Greenguard Gold (see post #2 here ) and based on actual testing I would consider any type or blend of latex to be a very "safe" material in terms of harmful substances and VOC's.

The matress felt very comfortable but I am just making sure the choice of Dunlop over talalay is a sensible one. Flo beds and Plush are quite a bit more money. Is it worth paying more? It's difficult because we can't test them to see.. What are your thoughts?


The choice between Dunlop and Talalay is a preference choice rather than a "better/worse" choice but there is more about the differences between them in post # here. The only reliable way to know which one you would tend to prefer would be based on your own testing or personal experiences on a range of mattresses that used each of them.

There is more about the 3 most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase in post #13 here which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on suitability, durability, and all the other parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for).

Once you have narrowed down your options to a list of finalists that are all choices between "good and good" and none of them have any lower quality materials or "weak links" in their design relative to your weight range (which they don't) and if there are no clear winners between them (which is usually a good indication that you have done some good research) then you are in the fortunate position that any of them would likely be a suitable choice and post #2 here can help you make a final choice based on your local testing or mattresses you have slept well on, your more detailed conversations about each of them, your confidence about PPP and the suitability of each one, their prices, your preferences for different types of materials and components, the options you have after a purchase to fine tune the mattress or exchange or return the mattress or individual layers, any additional extras that are part of each purchase, and on "informed best judgement" based on all the other objective, subjective, and intangible parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.

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