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IKEA MORGONGÅVA v. BROOKLYN BEDDING 17 Aug 2015 18:54 #1

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Hello:

I really appreciate the wealth of information on this forum. I learned a lot reading posts however apparently I still need advice deciding.

My wife and I are around 135 pounds and we have been having some back pain on our 7-year memory foam mattress and we came to conclusion its time to get a new bed. We are back sleepers by the way.

After reading a lot on this forum and also trying out different mattresses in store, we are leaning towards latex mattress, especially the IKEA MORGONGÅVA and probably Brooklyn Bedding. Our main concern for the IKEA are the following:
- Thickness (7 7/8") - WILL THIS BE A PROBLEM?
- Refund policy if this doesn't work out

What's your take on these 2 mattresses based on the information we gave you? Also, whats your recommended base for this kind of mattress. We are open to different mattress recommendations as well.

Appreciate your help! Thanks!!

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IKEA MORGONGÅVA v. BROOKLYN BEDDING 17 Aug 2015 19:06 #2

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I'm currently in a current situation (also looking at Brooklyn Bedding and the Ikea Heggedal). Brooklyn has a very good return policy for their BME (100% money back if you buy direct from them). I believe that Ikea's return policy allows you to exchange your mattress for an equally priced one (you can only do this once obviously). Sorry I can't speak to the quality of either because I'm a mattress noob.

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IKEA MORGONGÅVA v. BROOKLYN BEDDING 17 Aug 2015 20:06 #3

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Hi avesthedave,

I can't help with "what" to choose since only you can decide that but hopefully I can provide some information that can help you with "how" to choose.

I'm assuming that you've read the mattress shopping tutorial but two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure you read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best "match" for you in terms of "comfort" and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists (based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you).

Since PPP and how well you will sleep on a mattress is the most important part of the "value" of a mattress purchase when you are testing mattresses locally then the most reliable way to know whether a mattress is a good "match" for you in terms of PPP (or whether it is thick enough for you) is your own careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in the tutorial post).

When you can't test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart (such as Brooklyn Bedding) who can help "talk you through" the specifics of their mattresses and the options they have available that may be the best "match" for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept well on and liked that they are familiar with, any special considerations you may have, and the "averages" of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about helping you to "match" their specific mattress designs or firmness options to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences or even to other mattresses that they are familiar with than anyone else so that in combination with your own personal testing you can make the "best possible" choice with the highest chance of success.

For those people that are uncertain about whether an online choice (or even a local choice) would be suitable for them then the options you have after a purchase to "fine tune" the mattress or exchange or return it would become a more important part of the "value" of a purchase so that you can use your actual sleeping experience to decide whether you will sleep well on the mattress. I would also keep in mind that an exchange policy is only worthwhile if there is another mattress available to you that you would choose to purchase.

The Morgongava is a two sided mattresses that uses high quality materials (85% natural latex made by Mountaintop Foam with a wool quilted cotton cover) so there are no lower quality materials or "weak links" in the mattress in terms of durability. There are also some comments about it in this topic and this topic and this topic and a forum search on Morgongava (you can just click the link) will bring up more comments and feedback about it as well. There are also a few people that have mentioned that it had a strong smell (see posts #14, 18, 21, and 22 in this topic but this doesn't seem to be consistent from mattress to mattress.

There is also more about the Brooklyn Bedding BestMattressEver in post #2 here of the simplified choice topic. A forum search on BestMattressEver (you can just click the link) will also bring up many more comments and feedback about it as well but it also uses very high quality and durable materials and there are no lower quality materials or weak links in this mattress either that would affect durability or the useful life of the mattress. They also have a great return policy that lets you test the mattress in your bedroom instead of in a showroom with very little risk but of course you won't be able to test it in person before a purchase.

Once you are confident that all your finalists would be a good match for you in terms of PPP (or you have good exchange/return options after a purchase if you aren't) and that there are no weak links in any of them in terms of durability (which there aren't) then you would be down to finalists that are comparing "good to good". If there are no clear winners between them at this point (which is usually a good indication that you have done some good research) then you are in the fortunate position that any of them would likely make a good quality/value choice and post #2 here can help you make a final choice based on any local testing or mattresses you have slept well on in the past, your more detailed conversations with each of them, your confidence about PPP and the suitability of each one, their prices, your preferences, the options you have after a purchase to fine tune the mattress or exchange or return the mattress or individual layers and any cost involved, any additional extras that are part of each purchase, and on "informed best judgement" based on all the other objective, subjective, and intangible parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you. Sometimes your final choice may even come down to some fairly small differences that are just a matter of "gut feel" or "educated best judgement".

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IKEA MORGONGÅVA v. BROOKLYN BEDDING 19 Nov 2015 19:45 #4

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Hi, BME owners. I'm considering a BME. I'm curious if anyone has tried the Ikea Morgongava as well as the BME.
I'm not asking if its better or not, just how it feels different. Particularly if the medium is softer or firmer than the Morgongava? what is the density of the upper layer? Or maybe there are some more nuanced differences. I'd love to hear about them.

Sorry if this is too off topic. Phoenix feel free to move this to a different thread if you think so.

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IKEA MORGONGÅVA v. BROOKLYN BEDDING 19 Nov 2015 20:21 #5

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Hi SuperJ,

I switched your post to a more suitable topic that has some information that may be helpful.

I don't know of anyone that has mentioned trying both mattresses but hopefully one of the members here that has tried both of them will see your post and share their comments.

I would also keep in mind that these are very different mattresses with different types and blends of latex (which would have a different feel and response) and very different designs. The Morgongava has a single layer of latex with a single firmness while the BME uses a combination of multiple layers that will each have some affect how it feels and different people may have very different opinions about how they feel and compare based on their body type and sleeping style which will affect how deeply they sink into the mattress and their perceptions about which of the layers have a significant effect on their sleeping experience and on how firm the mattress feels to them compared to someone else.

Every layer and component in a mattress will have an effect on the feel and performance of every other layer and component above and below it and the ILD or density of latex is only one of several variables or "specs" that will determine how soft or firm an individual layer or a mattress "as a whole" will feel to different people (see post #4 here ). In addition to this the ILD or density of different materials or different types and blends of latex also aren't always directly comparable to each other (see post #6 here ) so using the ILD of a particular layer or combination of layers as a reliable indication of how any mattress will "feel" or how firm it will feel to you compared to another mattress with a completely different design can be more misleading than helpful .

There are also no "standard" definitions or consensus of opinions for firmness ratings and different manufacturers can rate their mattresses very differently than others so a mattress that one manufacturer rates as being a specific firmness could be rated very differently by another manufacturer. Different people can also have very different perceptions of firmness and softness compared to others as well and a mattress that feels firm for one person can feel like "medium" for someone else or even "soft" for someone else (or vice versa) depending on their body type, sleeping style, physiology, their frame of reference based on what they are used to, and their individual sensitivity and perceptions. There are also different types of firmness and softness that different people may be sensitive to that can affect how they "rate" a mattress as well (see post #15 here ) so different people can also have very different opinions on how two mattresses compare in terms of firmness and some people may rate one mattress as being firmer than another and someone else may rate them the other way around. This is all relative and very subjective and is as much an art as a science.

While your own careful testing or personal experience is the most reliable way to know whether any mattress is a good "match" for you in terms of comfort and PPP or how closely it "matches" or "approximates" another mattress ... when you can't test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help "talk you through" the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and "feel" of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness etc) and the options they have available that may be the best "match" for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the "averages" of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about "matching" their specific mattress designs and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.

Phoenix
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