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ILD of Latex layer in Nest Bedding Love bed (FIRM/King size) 01 Jul 2015 07:39 #1

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Does any one know what's the ILD of 3" Latex layer in Nest Bedding Love bed (FIRM Version / King size) ?
i asked a question on their website around 2 days back, but still nothing happened.

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ILD of Latex layer in Nest Bedding Love bed (FIRM/King size) 01 Jul 2015 08:04 #2

I sent them an e-mail too asking about their materials origins and I haven't gotten a response back either. I appreciate that the bed is made in America, but if the materials aren't sourced in the States, it means nothing.

First time poster, hello Phoenix! Thank you for setting up this website, it's been helpful thus far for me! I appreciate it greatly!

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ILD of Latex layer in Nest Bedding Love bed (FIRM/King size) 01 Jul 2015 08:30 #3

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I asked ILD questions about it as well via email and on their site and only got evasive answers. I'm sure it's a good bed but it was enough to make me go with Brooklyn Bedding instead as they are much more transparent.

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ILD of Latex layer in Nest Bedding Love bed (FIRM/King size) 01 Jul 2015 08:35 #4

I agree. What really attracted me to the Love Bed was the fact that I could order in soft (the girlfriend and I are both side sleepers), that they use mostly natural materials, pricing, and made in USA. But if they can't be fully open with their beds, who knows what else they are hiding?

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ILD of Latex layer in Nest Bedding Love bed (FIRM/King size) 01 Jul 2015 09:20 #5

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Hi amun,

Does any one know what's the ILD of 3" Latex layer in Nest Bedding Love bed (FIRM Version / King size) ?
i asked a question on their website around 2 days back, but still nothing happened.


If for some reason you haven't received a reply to your question I would probably call them and ask them your question in person.

Having said that ... ILD is also only one of several specs that makes one material feel softer or firmer than another (see post #4 here ) and the ILD of different materials or different types and blends of latex also aren't directly comparable to each other. The ILD of a single layer also isn't particularly meaningful because every layer and component in a mattress will have an effect on every other layer in the mattress and on the mattress as a whole so the quilting foam, the quilting pattern, and the support core will all have an effect on how sort of firm the mattress feels. Putting too much focus on ILD alone or any single spec will most often be more misleading than helpful.

Different people can also have very different perceptions of firmness and softness compared to others as well and a mattress that is firm for one can feel like "medium" for someone else or even "soft" for someone else (or vice versa) depending on their body type, sleeping style, physiology, their frame of reference based on what they are used to, and their individual sensitivity and perceptions. This is all relative and very subjective and is as much an art as a science. There are also different types of firmness and softness that different people may be sensitive to that can affect how they "rate" a mattress as well (see post #15 here ).

Unless you have a great deal of knowledge and experience with different types of mattress materials and components and their specs and different layering combinations and mattress designs and how they combine together and can translate them into your own "real life" experience that can be unique to you ... I would tend to avoid using complex specs to try and predict how a mattress will feel or perform for you. When you try and choose a mattress based on complex combinations of specs that you may not fully understand or only based on a single spec for a single layer that may not be as relevant or meaningful as you believe it is then the most common outcome is "information overload" and "paralysis by analysis".

The only way to know how firm or soft any mattress will feel to you will be based on your own personal testing or sleeping experience.

If you are uncertain about your firmness choice when you can't test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help "talk you through" the specifics of their mattresses and the options they have available that may be the best "match" for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked that they are familiar with, and the "averages" of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about "matching" their specific mattress designs to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or even to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.

Don't forget that these are "simplified choice" mattresses and they have a great return/exchange policy that lets you test the mattress in your bedroom instead of a showroom so either your firmness choice will work out well for you or you can exchange or return the mattress without any risk.

Again ... no matter how much you try and "analyze" specs to try and predict how a mattress mattress will feel you won't know how it feels to you until you sleep on it.

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ILD of Latex layer in Nest Bedding Love bed (FIRM/King size) 01 Jul 2015 09:24 #6

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Hi jmor88,

First time poster, hello Phoenix! Thank you for setting up this website, it's been helpful thus far for me! I appreciate it greatly!


Welcome ... and I'm glad you found us.

I sent them an e-mail too asking about their materials origins and I haven't gotten a response back either. I appreciate that the bed is made in America, but if the materials aren't sourced in the States, it means nothing.


Their continuous pour synthetic latex is made by Mountaintop foam in the US, the foams in their mattresses are poured in the US, and the mattress is also manufactured in the US as well.

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ILD of Latex layer in Nest Bedding Love bed (FIRM/King size) 01 Jul 2015 09:26 #7

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Hi zexpress,

I asked ILD questions about it as well via email and on their site and only got evasive answers. I'm sure it's a good bed but it was enough to make me go with Brooklyn Bedding instead as they are much more transparent.


See my reply to amun two posts previous to this one.

ILD information by itself is among the least important information you would need to know when you are purchasing a mattress and will tell you very little about how a mattress will feel to you.

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ILD of Latex layer in Nest Bedding Love bed (FIRM/King size) 01 Jul 2015 09:35 #8

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Hi I agree. What really attracted me to the Love Bed was the fact that I could order in soft (the girlfriend and I are both side sleepers), that they use mostly natural materials, pricing, and made in USA. But if they can't be fully open with their beds, who knows what else they are hiding?


They have absolutely no reason to "hide" any relevant information about their mattress and from my perspective they are completely open and transparent about all the materials in their mattress that would in any way be relevant (and are more transparent than most of the industry). Your comments seem somewhat odd to me.

Just for clarification as well ... none of the materials in the Love Bed are "mostly natural". The Talalay layer is blended Talalay (about 30% natural and 70% synthetic rubber) and the polyfoam in the quilting layer and the support core is of course a synthetic material.

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ILD of Latex layer in Nest Bedding Love bed (FIRM/King size) 01 Jul 2015 09:41 #9

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Where do you see the Love Bed uses Talalay latex? In my email discussion with Joe he said it uses Dunlop.

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ILD of Latex layer in Nest Bedding Love bed (FIRM/King size) 01 Jul 2015 09:42 #10

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Thanks zexpress/jmor88/Phoenix for your replies!!
i agree with Phoenix, regarding overall feel of the bed, but it will give an idea(at least) what we are getting

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as jmor88 pointed out, i feel more comfortable with manufacturers who gives FULL details about the product they are selling. the product may contain best or good or bad materials, but the final product may be BEST.
i would like to be the JUDGE of what i am getting into & always lean towards buying who is OPEN about their products.

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