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are box spring required for double sided innerspring mattress? 15 May 2015 12:41 #11

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Phoenix,
After further research, I am convinced that the design of my mattress was meant to be paired with a box spring. I'm not sure why you would not agree after knowing it's components. I've spoken to several knowledgable mattress people and they all agree. The only explanation that I can imagine for your inability to take a stance on this, is that this manufacturer is a member on this site and they are off limits for any criticism.

Any topper on this hard mattress compresses too much. Nothing is comfortable on top. It is meant to have flex or spring beneath it. I know that everyone is unique, and has different P.P.P's, but to eliminate half of the sleep system design, meaning, selling a double sided innerspring without it's paired box spring,, was a mistake. I do blame the manufacturer for their advice.

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are box spring required for double sided innerspring mattress? 15 May 2015 13:42 #12

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Hi lilac,

After further research, I am convinced that the design of my mattress was meant to be paired with a box spring. I'm not sure why you would not agree after knowing it's components


The manufacturer is always the most reliable source of information about the box spring or foundation it was designed for since they are the ones who designed the mattress and this is always the first "rule" of choosing a foundation as you can see in the foundation post here which says in the third paragraph ...

The first and most simple option is to use the foundation that is recommended by the manufacturer of your mattress. Because the mattress manufacturer knows which type of foundation is suitable for their mattress and meets their warranty criteria ... this can save lots of research and you know that you will have a foundation which the mattress manufacturer themselves knows works well with their mattress. If you do decide to choose an alternative then I would make sure that the foundation and bedframe meets the manufacturer's warranty criteria.


This has nothing to do with whether a manufacturer is a member here or not but if you believe that you are more knowledgeable than the manufacturer that designed and manufactured your mattress then of course you are always free to choose whatever you believe.

The reality is that if you have tested a box spring with your specific mattress and it works better for you on any particular mattress in terms of PPP and you are happy with spending the additional money on purchasing the box spring then that would be the best choice for you regardless of whether it would be the best choice for anyone else and purchasing a box spring is certainly an option that is still available to you.

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are box spring required for double sided innerspring mattress? 17 May 2015 05:13 #13

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I went ahead and purchased a box-spring from royal-pedics. Mattress is still a lil firm but better than sleeping on the floor (for about 5 months?) I lost count.

Thinking about getting a organic cotton mattress pad or a latex topper from sleep-on-latex. The site has nothing but positive reviews (reminds me of saatva) so not sure yet.

The cotton mattress pad will probably not do since it will compress over time. The latex, I'm worried about the smell.

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are box spring required for double sided innerspring mattress? 17 May 2015 08:05 #14

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Hi incognito,

Thinking about getting a organic cotton mattress pad or a latex topper from sleep-on-latex. The site has nothing but positive reviews (reminds me of saatva) so not sure yet.

The cotton mattress pad will probably not do since it will compress over time. The latex, I'm worried about the smell.


A softer latex topper would certainly be softer and more pressure relieving than a cotton mattress pad and as you mentioned the cotton will also be subject to compression and an increase in firmness over time.

I would also be very cautious about using other people's experiences or reviews on a topper (either positive or negative) as a reliable source of information or guidance about how suitable or how durable a topper may be for you and in many cases they can be more misleading than helpful because a topper that would be a perfect choice for one person (or on the mattress they are sleeping on) may be completely unsuitable for someone else to sleep on (or on your mattress) either in terms of comfort, suitability, or durability (see post #13 here ).

I would pay much more attention to making sure you are getting accurate information about the topper you are considering so that you are making an informed choice and that you are comfortable with the return/exchange policy as well just in case the topper you choose doesn't turn out as well as you hoped for.

I would consider SleepOnLatex to be a knowledgeable and reliable supplier and they will provide you with accurate information about the toppers they sell and they are one of the online suppliers that are listed in the component/topper list here . They would certainly be worth considering if you are looking for a 100% natural Dunlop latex topper although I noticed on their site that their toppers are on back order until June 18th.

There is also more information about choosing a topper in post #2 here and the topper guidelines it links that can help you use your sleeping experience as a reference point and guideline for choosing the type, thickness, and firmness for a topper that has the least possible risk and the best chance for success.

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