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Hate my Tempur Rhapsody, replacing with Aireloom or Prana 09 Mar 2015 23:10 #61

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Hi FAUguy,

I would be very cautious about considering any major brand mattress that likely uses low quality/density materials in the comfort layers (regardless of how it "feels" in a showroom) or any mattress where you don't know the quality of the materials inside it unless the durability and useful life of a mattress and how quickly you will need to replace it isn't an important issue for you (see the guidelines here ).

A blind purchase like this is one of the most common reasons for buyers remorse much too quickly after a purchase.

There is more about the most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase in post #13 here that can help you make more informed choices and make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses.

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Hate my Tempur Rhapsody, replacing with Aireloom or Prana 10 Mar 2015 01:27 #62

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More power to those of you who can get a good night's sleep on memory foam. I tried the entire Tempurpedic line for two hours in a store, and felt like I was either in quicksand or on a slab of concrete depending on firmness. Pressure points on every mattress - the only difference being WHERE the pressure points were. I walked out of the store feeling like I had a broken rib or two by the time I gave up. :)

In comparison, Latex just feels like it was made in Heaven. But hey, live and let live... To each their own! And all that.

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Hate my Tempur Rhapsody, replacing with Aireloom or Prana 10 Mar 2015 09:39 #63

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More power to those of you who can get a good night's sleep on memory foam. I tried the entire Tempurpedic line for two hours in a store, and felt like I was either in quicksand or on a slab of concrete depending on firmness. Pressure points on every mattress - the only difference being WHERE the pressure points were. I walked out of the store feeling like I had a broken rib or two by the time I gave up. :)

In comparison, Latex just feels like it was made in Heaven. But hey, live and let live... To each their own! And all that.

I too initially tried all the Tempur Pedic models and ended up buying the Rhapsody (as I mentioned in the start of this thread).
It turned out to be way to hard/firm for me. After being told by the salesman the first two months it will soften up, it did not. I went back and tried them all out again. Even though I could have done an even exchange for a Cloud Luxe, I decided to return it and look for something else.

After a few weeks of mattress hunting, I did like the Aireloom Meribel and the S&F MacClesfield. The memory foam on those do not have the "quicksand" feel of Tempur Pedic or Optimum. But I decided to try the SleepEZ latex after trying out a Savvy Rest latex in a store. Now after havingit for 5 days, again my back and sides are in pain when trying to get to sleep. The last two nights I've woken up in pain and had to transfer to the couch for relief.

At this point, I'm wondering if latex just isn't for me.

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Hate my Tempur Rhapsody, replacing with Aireloom or Prana 10 Mar 2015 09:47 #64

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Well I think that's the advantage of layered latex like the Sleep EZ... now you can start to tune it to your liking. I'm not an expert but if you've got pressure points, maybe you went too firm and need to soften it up. The ability to swap out a layer or rearrange existing layers and essentially create a brand new bed is the appeal to me. I'd be surprised if I could never find some combination of layers that worked! I'm curious how much you weigh, and what type and firmness each layer of your SleepEZ is.

BTW, I tried the Airelooms too. I really like the one with the latex comfort layers which is what steered me towards all Latex. While I liked the Aireloom, I felt it was time to get rid of springs and as I've been sampling all latex mattresses, I've been very happy with what I've found.

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Hate my Tempur Rhapsody, replacing with Aireloom or Prana 10 Mar 2015 09:52 #65

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Well I think that's the advantage of layered latex like the Sleep EZ... now you can start to tune it to your liking. I'm not an expert but if you've got pressure points, maybe you went too firm and need to soften it up. The ability to swap out a layer or rearrange existing layers and essentially create a brand new bed is the appeal to me. I'd be surprised if I could never find some combination of layers that worked! I'm curious how much you weigh, and what type and firmness each layer of your SleepEZ is.

BTW, I tried the Airelooms too. I really like the one with the latex comfort layers which is what steered me towards all Latex. While I liked the Aireloom, I felt it was time to get rid of springs and as I've been sampling all latex mattresses, I've been very happy with what I've found.

I have the layer as soft/medium/medium. I'm 6'3" 160lbs and am getting pressure on my back, and even worse when on my side.
In order to try a SSM or SSS, I'd need to have two soft layers sent out.

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Hate my Tempur Rhapsody, replacing with Aireloom or Prana 10 Mar 2015 10:29 #66

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Dunlop or Talalay?

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Hate my Tempur Rhapsody, replacing with Aireloom or Prana 10 Mar 2015 11:02 #67

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Hi FAUguy,

At this point, I'm wondering if latex just isn't for me.


In the same way that your experience on the Rhapsody wouldn't be an indication of how you will feel on every memory foam mattress ... it's unlikely that your experience on a single latex mattress would exclude a whole category of material. It's more likely that the specific combinations you've tried aren't suitable for you rather than the latex itself.

Now after havingit for 5 days, again my back and sides are in pain when trying to get to sleep. The last two nights I've woken up in pain and had to transfer to the couch for relief.

I have the layer as soft/medium/medium. I'm 6'3" 160lbs and am getting pressure on my back, and even worse when on my side.


There is some information in post #2 here about the different types of "symptoms" that people may experience on a mattress and some of the most likely reasons for them.

I'm not sure of the specific symptoms you are feeling or where you are feeling them or which sleeping positions they tend to happen but the most common (although not the only) cause of back pain on a mattress is that the mattress is too soft. Pressure points also aren't nearly as likely for back sleepers with a soft layer on top and the odds are higher (although not certain) that they are coming from alignment issues. Your couch would also almost certainly be firmer than your mattress.

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Hate my Tempur Rhapsody, replacing with Aireloom or Prana 10 Mar 2015 12:35 #68

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Dunlop or Talalay?

All three layers are Talalay. When I spoke to Sleep EZ before ordering it, I was told they recommend the talalay since it is more uniform ILD than the dunlop, as its ILD is only tested in a few places.

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Hate my Tempur Rhapsody, replacing with Aireloom or Prana 10 Mar 2015 13:01 #69

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Dunlop or Talalay?

All three layers are Talalay. When I spoke to Sleep EZ before ordering it, I was told they recommend the talalay since it is more uniform ILD than the dunlop, as its ILD is only tested in a few places.


So it's on the soft side overall. When I talked to SleepEZ yesterday, they recommended SOFT-MEDIUM-FIRM in Talalay for my wife based on her weight of 130 and her sleep style of being a side sleeper. You weigh more and have a softer mattress than that. Based on our in-store trials thus far and what I know about the ILD of SleepEZ Talalay - I tend to think this was the right recommendation for my wife.

So my guess, and it's just a guess, that your mattress isn't providing enough support and you are sleeping with improper alignment. So I tend to think you need more support, not less. What you should do next, is call SleepEZ. But my first idea would be to upgrade your bottom layer from medium to firm. Can you have someone take a picture of you laying on the current mattress on your side? It might help you determine if your spine is aligned properly if you can visualize your body position.

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Hate my Tempur Rhapsody, replacing with Aireloom or Prana 10 Mar 2015 15:17 #70

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Dunlop or Talalay?

All three layers are Talalay. When I spoke to Sleep EZ before ordering it, I was told they recommend the talalay since it is more uniform ILD than the dunlop, as its ILD is only tested in a few places.


So it's on the soft side overall. When I talked to SleepEZ yesterday, they recommended SOFT-MEDIUM-FIRM in Talalay for my wife based on her weight of 130 and her sleep style of being a side sleeper. You weigh more and have a softer mattress than that. Based on our in-store trials thus far and what I know about the ILD of SleepEZ Talalay - I tend to think this was the right recommendation for my wife.

So my guess, and it's just a guess, that your mattress isn't providing enough support and you are sleeping with improper alignment. So I tend to think you need more support, not less. What you should do next, is call SleepEZ. But my first idea would be to upgrade your bottom layer from medium to firm. Can you have someone take a picture of you laying on the current mattress on your side? It might help you determine if your spine is aligned properly if you can visualize your body position.

Sorry I didn't give enough detail. Its a Cal King, one side has a firm on the bottom, the other side is medium on the bottom, both sides have medium in the center, and soft on the top, which gives it SMF and SMM on each side. The top soft layer is glued together so there wouldn't be the split seem in the middle. I've gone between both sides (SMF and SMM) and the only side I can bare to lay on is the SMM. My only option for a layer exchange would be to have a soft sent out to try SSM.

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