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Choosing adult and kids latex mattresses - cost, quality, layers, warranty, exchange - oh my! 28 Jan 2016 19:25 #11

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Thank you for this thread. My wife and I are considering a latex full sized mattress for our 6 year old special needs son and this information was very helpful.

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Choosing adult and kids latex mattresses - cost, quality, layers, warranty, exchange - oh my! 28 Jan 2016 22:39 #12

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Hi Bullsusf00,

You may have read this since it's linked in my first reply in this topic but just in case you haven't (there is a lot of information in the topic) post #2 here and the topics it links to have more information about mattresses and children and "safe" materials including a link to some general guidelines for children in post #2 here . It also includes links to the better forum posts and topics about mattress and children which also have more information about many good options for children as well.

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Choosing adult and kids latex mattresses - cost, quality, layers, warranty, exchange - oh my! 21 Mar 2016 19:55 #13

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So pleased you've found my research and ramblings useful! All the best making a selection.

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Choosing adult and kids latex mattresses - cost, quality, layers, warranty, exchange - oh my! 21 Mar 2016 20:07 #14

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I think you could be right that there is some other underlying issue happening but the back pain does correlate with the new mattress, though the pain didn't start right away. I haven't had any other injuries that should be causing pain. I've talked extensively with my chiropractor about this as well and he thinks that it's quite possible my back was compensating for a good while before the pain actually started to be noticeable, likely from a too soft top layer. That's my current theory.

So my husband finished our bed frame (and it's stunning!) and so we had to take apart the bed to get it on the platform slats. I took off the soft topper altogether and am now sleeping on F, XF, F, M (bottom to top) and I feel less like my hips are sinking in. My back still aches many mornings but I do think it's a little better. None of the other configurations with the soft layer still on top seemed to have any effect.

Still, can't help but feel frustrated that it's not perfect as I spent so much time researching the best products and spent so much money! Friends with latex mattresses are loving theirs so I'm jealous. Also annoyed that that I'm out of the time frame for returns. If I wasn't I might get an Original Mattress Factory traditional mattress to compare and return the one that I didn't like!

Also worth noting perhaps that I'm not having back pain at other times of day, only in the early morning hours when I end up tossing and turning to try to get comfortable. Once I'm up and out of bed, it goes away reasonably quickly.

I'll post back if I have any breakthroughs or revelations! Thanks for your help in troubleshooting!

Jenn

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Choosing adult and kids latex mattresses - cost, quality, layers, warranty, exchange - oh my! 21 Mar 2016 22:29 #15

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Hi McJenn,

I went back through your posts to see what combinations you've tried and any comments you made about each of them to see if I could identify any "patterns" in your experience. Based on your somewhat limited feedback here is what I could "extract" from your comments ...

F, M, S, S with the top layer outside of the mattress cover:

You didn't mention whether your layers are Dunlop or Talalay (Talalay will generally be a little softer in the same ILD as Dunlop) but this would be a fairly common layering combination that would work well for many people in your weight range and sleeping style (particularly if one of the top soft layers are Dunlop) although I would generally consider having two soft layers to be somewhat risky. In any case it certainly seems that this was too soft for you.


F, S, M, S (with the soft layer outside the cover):

This also appeared to be too soft although I can't tell from your comments whether there was any improvement or lessening of your back pain with this combination so I can't tell whether a slight increase in firmness made any difference.


F, M, XF, S (with the soft layer outside the cover):

It appears that you also had lower back pain with this combination but again I didn't see anything about whether there were any changes in this combination compared to the other combinations you tried so again I can't tell whether a firmer combination yet is going in the right direction.


XF, F, M:

Your only comment about this combination was that you still felt a "little bit achy" in the morning but I would be interested to know if this was an improvement from any of the other combinations and how long you tried it before you switched back to the 4 layer combination because your husband preferred 4 layers. Knowing more about your experience with this combination would be helpful because it would be firmer than any of your previous combinations.


F, XF, F, S (with the soft layer outside the cover):

You mentioned that this "felt like" it was supportive enough for you but I don't know what this means because you also mentioned that you had sower back troubles that caused you to get out of bed in the morning before you really wanted to (which may be contradicting that it was "supportive enough" for you). Was this an improvement over any of the other combinations?


F, XF, F, M (with the medium layer outside the cover):

This would be firmer than any of your other 4 layer combinations (although not as firm as your 3 layer combination). You mentioned that it feels like your hips are sinking in less but this isn't all that meaningful because it's not a "symptom" but you also mentioned that "my back still aches many mornings but I do think it's a little better" so at least this is encouraging because it seems that your back pain has lessened with a firmer combination. With this combination you are outside the "averages" that would generally work best for most people in your weight range that also spend time sleeping on their sides but of course not everyone fits inside the averages of other people.

None of the other configurations with the soft layer still on top seemed to have any effect.


It's very difficult to know how to interpret this because most people would feel "some" differences between different combinations even if they all had a soft top layer but the only logical conclusion that would seem to fit your feedback is that a soft top layer of any kind may not be the best choice for you.

I think that's all the combinations I could see that you tried so if you can fill in any more specific information (including whether your layers are Dunlop or Talalay) about how they compared that would help to differentiate between them it would be helpful.

Which of the combinations would be your first choice if you "had to" choose between them and which would be your second choice?

Still, can't help but feel frustrated that it's not perfect as I spent so much time researching the best products and spent so much money! Friends with latex mattresses are loving theirs so I'm jealous.


As you probably know from your reading here one person's experience can be very different from someone else or even a larger group of people because each person is unique. While you certainly made a great quality and durable choice ... the quality and durability of a mattress is very different from the suitability of a mattress and even with all the "theoretical" research in the world the only way to know for sure whether any combination of materials and components will be a good "match" for you will be based on your own careful testing or personal sleeping experience.

It may also be worth sleeping on one of your kids beds for a few days or the XF,F,M three layer combination (if you didn't try this for very long) to see how they feel for you as well.

Did you try any of the suggestions in the post about mattresses that are too soft?

I'm looking forward to any additional information or updates that you have the chance to share.

Phoenix
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