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Factory Direct Latex source near NW Indiana? 11 Dec 2011 15:09 #1

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First off, I would like to say how incredibly helpful this site is in learning about mattresses and finding a short list of suppliers for a new bed. I have spent over 12 hours the last 2 days perusing the posts--tremendous resource and invaluable. (I would have made a bad choice if not for studying the material on this site--fell for the Saavta ads online initially but could not get basic questions answered after several emails--eliminated them from consideration along with a few others after my "study" on your forum)

I did not find any nearby factory outlet type places for latex or any other types for that matter. Did see the suggestion for Holder in Lafayette, but that is 100 miles away and I am leaning toward a quality latex mattress after what was read here and my 2 visits to the local "sleep store" (Bedding Experts) with the wife to lay on a variety of types. I will not elaborate, but will never go back to that store after getting some inconsistent information and refusal to provide construction details on particular products. Nuff said.

Am I missing any factory direct type manufacturers in my area?

Given that I have found no good local sources, I have narrowed down my short list from forum recommendations to these products (initially was going to try a memory foam style but the wife did not like that it took too long to spring back):

www.customsleepdesign.com/
www.mattresses.net/king-adjustable-ultra-plush-latex-sleep-system.html
www.sleepez.com/latex-mattress-8500.htm
www.sleepez.com/latex-mattress-10000.htm
www.foamorder.com/latex.php (the "Pick Your Layers" option seems similar to the others above)


I am replacing a 7 year old firm Stearns and Foster that was not a cheap bed at the time. It actually should have been replaced several years ago--my back has hurt BAD every night for longer than I want to admit.

I am more of a side sleeper, if that includes kind of half side/half stomach with one leg pulled up high into chest and leaning toward bed--the way I seem to get comfortable at least trying to go to sleep. My wife says she is an equal parts side/back/stomach sleeper, but I think she is a side/back more so from my observation. I am 6-2 and under 200 pounds and the wife is 5' and medium build if that helps with selecting a firmness level.

Based on this, any comments on the suitability of the short list above would be welcomed. I focused on the beds that could be exchanged or fine-tuned since I do not have a solid working spec in the absence of trying specific products in person. I did not like the particular Sealy foam mattress at the Bedding Experts (it was a low end model and too firm) but did like the general feel of the style. They "pointed" me toward the Tempurpedic when I asked about non innerspring options--not sure why they carried no premium latex beds.

EDIT: Just realized I failed to note that my mattress size is king. Also, FWIW, I would likely have purchased on of these three choices if not for finding this forum:

www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=11669853&whse=BC&topnav=&cm_sp=RichRelevance-_-categorypageHorizontalTop-_-PopularProductsInCategory&cm_vc=categorypageHorizontalTop|PopularProductsInCategory

saatvamattress.com/our-mattresses.html

www.charlesprogers.com/biltmorereg-platform-bed-mattress-p-484.html?cPath=4_194

None of them seem so great now after studying mattress construction on the forum....

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Re: Factory Direct Latex source near NW Indiana? 11 Dec 2011 16:09 #2

Hi, I am also in NW Indiana. I am also in the process of looking for a mattress. I went to www.mygreenmattress.com

The owner Tim is a real nice guy, and a member of this site. His website does not show all the different beds he has, so you might want to take a drive to his store, or call him.

Dino

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Re: Factory Direct Latex source near NW Indiana? 11 Dec 2011 16:26 #3

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Thanks, Dino. Actually, that was on and off my short list, but decided to focus on a split layer that could accommodate both my wife and myself given the different body types, sleep patterns, and comfort preferences. You are right---I probably should go see Tim. Maybe he has what I am looking for and he does get the forum recommendation as a good seller. Now that I looked closer at his web site it appears he manufactures all his own beds.

I probably should have mentioned that I knew about mygreenmattress before asking about local sources since he is close enough to be considered a local supplier.

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Re: Factory Direct Latex source near NW Indiana? 12 Dec 2011 00:12 #4

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Hi, I am also in NW Indiana. I am also in the process of looking for a mattress. I went to [/url=https://tmu.best/vy2rx]www.mygreenmattress.com[/url]

The owner Tim is a real nice guy, and a member of this site. His website does not show all the different beds he has, so you might want to take a drive to his store, or call him.

Dino


For others that may have interest in this supplier, I found the web site for Tim's other store location that shows more of the range of his products which includes a number of innerspring types (that they appear to also manufacture locally):

www.qualitysleepshop.com/

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Re: Factory Direct Latex source near NW Indiana? 12 Dec 2011 00:46 #5

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Hi Jim,

I would certainly pay a visit to Tim at My Green Mattress if at all possible. He is a very soft spoken (no pressure) good guy, very knowledgeable, and they make some very high quality and value mattresses. The My Green Mattress site is their more "natural" outlet that focuses more on latex (including two sided) but they are a sister company to Quality Sleep Shop which makes a wide range of mattresses. While I don't know for certain (I never asked him) it would be worth while asking him if he can do "split layering" even though they don't mention it on their site.

I would personally prefer to purchase a mattress that I have actually laid down on if the value and quality is there. Online purchasing options are great (especially from an outlet that has the knowledge and desire to really help you make the best decisions) and are a great opportunity for anyone to buy a great mattress even if there is not a high value manufacturer nearby, but if there is ... that would be my first choice if possible.

I think all the online outlets you mentioned are very good even though they are somewhat different in their choices. Custom Sleep Design is a more premium outlet with higher prices because they make their mattresses with a unique zoning system which is custom fitted and zoned for each person and couple. It is exceptionally "accurate" and I believe the most individually and highly customized mattress you can find anywhere but certainly not the lowest cost. Mattresses.net (Arizona Premium Mattress) and SleepEz both have exceptional value, choices, knowledge, and service. Foamorder is also a good quality outlet and offers a wider range of materials (latex, memory foam, and polyfoam) for those who are not focused as much on latex. Their Natural Sense latex is good quality Dunlop.

Some other local manufacturers that may be somewhat near you just for reference (within about 60 miles or so depending on exactly where you are in NW Indiana) include ...

www.thebedcrafters.com/ (ADDED LATER: Now out of business)
www.verlo.com/

In terms of a firmness level ... I would tend towards slightly thinner and/or firmer comfort layers than pure side sleepers (which would typically have comfort layers in the 3-4" range) to help with spinal alignment in your other sleeping positions. "Average" firmness in a latex comfort layer would be in the range of about 19 - 24 ILD with heavier people choosing the upper end of this range (or slightly higher) and lighter people using the lower end of this range (or slightly lower). Support cores are also typically firmer for heavier people and less firm for lighter people but again each person's testing for pressure relief and alignment is more important than fitting into an "average". This would typically mean in the range of a 2-3" comfort layer as a starting point but since you have local manufacturers near you and because I believe that personal advice with you lying on a mattress in a showroom is more accurate than "theory at a distance" ... I would follow the advice of someone who has the knowledge and skill to help you and puts your interest and needs over their profit (which is certainly the case with Tim and the other members of this site). If you have any specific questions that come from testing mattresses or if you need a confirming "voice" for what you are being told then certainly feel free to post them here.

I think that your "short list" choices are good ones (with the exception that it didn't include MGM) and certainly better than at least 2 of the 3 outlets you were looking at previously. I'm not familiar with charlesprogers though so even though it seems like they are manufacturing mainly lower budget polyfoam mattresses ... they do look like they are at least using good construction methods (like inner tufting) so I'll have to call them to see what quality materials they are using in their mattresses and the selection they have available. They are certainly making some nice looking beds. Thanks for the lead :)

Hope this helps

Phoenix

PS: I just saw that you already found the sister site for MGM while I was writing this :)
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Re: Factory Direct Latex source near NW Indiana? 12 Dec 2011 02:49 #6

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Lots of good advice and information to digest here--thanks!!!

I was SOOOO discouraged and aggravated after going to the local chain bedding store (innerspring bed I liked the best was price tagged for something like $7000 list price but on sale for over $3000 but seemed VERY similar spec to the Costco model for $1399--hard to not be cynical when they refused to even answer my question of how they differed), my plan was to just do the best I could from a reputable mail order supplier and hope for the best. Did not realize there were this many good independents left and had not discovered any in my general area until coming across this forum. Thankfully, I realized Bedding Experts offerings were way over priced and delayed the purchase. Frankly, I expected more of the same at the big department stores and decided it was not even worth a visit.

That said, I will likely not only visit Tim as suggested, but probably the other two you suggested if time permits. Tim's place is 50 miles from me, but definitely worth the drive.

I'm sure there will be questions after I have time to digest this and get my pre-purchase checklist ready for the shopping trip. If nothing else, I'll provide some feedback and shopping experience after my mattress shopping adventure. This mattress journey is actually kind of fun once one is armed with a little knowledge....and my back will thank me for it....

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Re: Factory Direct Latex source near NW Indiana? 13 Dec 2011 18:32 #7

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Hi Jim,

I'm looking forward to your mattress shopping "report" :)

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Re: Factory Direct Latex source near NW Indiana? 13 Dec 2011 22:26 #8

I stopped by my green mattress again today. Unfortunately Tim wasn't there.
His latex mattresses on his web site that had a blended latex core, is now pocket coils. He is using a 3" Talalay separate topper that sits on top the pocket coils.
He still has the 3 layer all Talalay mattresses. He had 3 different floor models, all of these can be flipped.
1. all medium
2. medium, firm, medium
3. all firm (as far as the salesperson knew).

Also on his website he shows the Emily as being a crib mattress, but he makes this in all sizes. The queen he had there was 2" of Talalay top and bottom and I believe springs in the middle.

He also has some memory foam(one with gel) and some other mattresses that were not Latex that I didnt really look at.

Now I am stuck with a dilemma because my wife liked the memory foam mattress with gel he has. I admit it was comfortable, and cheaper which I liked, but my mind was focused on Latex.

One cool thing is there is a big window at the back of the store where you can watch them working on their mattresses.

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Re: Factory Direct Latex source near NW Indiana? 14 Dec 2011 03:37 #9

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Hi Dino,

Thanks a lot for your feedback and for your descriptions of what he has available now. This is great as I know there are many people who like the feel of a latex over pocket coil hybrid and it's great that he has it available.

Now I am stuck with a dilemma because my wife liked the memory foam mattress with gel he has. I admit it was comfortable, and cheaper which I liked, but my mind was focused on Latex.


I feel for you here :). My only comment would be to bear in mind that memory foam is usually not as durable as latex and will soften more in the early stages from its showroom feel than latex (unless the model on the showroom floor already has). Did you happen to ask if they can do split layering just in case soft latex would work as well for her as memory foam.

At least its great to have good choices rather than having to choose between mattresses that are not so good.

Thanks for the feedback and information and I'm looking forward to hearing about what you end up with.

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Re: Factory Direct Latex source near NW Indiana? 14 Dec 2011 20:26 #10

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Also on his website he shows the Emily as being a crib mattress, but he makes this in all sizes. The queen he had there was 2" of Talalay top and bottom and I believe springs in the middle.

He also has some memory foam(one with gel) and some other mattresses that were not Latex that I didnt really look at.


It appears Tim makes two model lines with an innerspring core and latex comfort layers--the Emily you mentioned and the Nicole. His sister web site (www.qualitysleepshop.com/) has descriptions of the non full latex models--I was assuming from his email to me that those were also on display at the La Grange location you visited--Tim me that was the place to go for the widest selection of his products. The Nicole looked similar to the Emily but had a non-pillowtop or pillowtop model. Interesting that one of his web sites shows Emily as a two layer latex with no mention of innerspring core and the other shows it as a pillowtop 5 zone spring/latex mattress.

My wife is still not completely sold on a "foam" mattress, so was hoping to at least check out the Nicole as a hybrid choice.

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