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Tight budget - DIY or? 06 Jul 2014 19:19 #1

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So my situation is such that I am in need of a new mattress. Being an engineer whenever I find myself looking into buying something I always become way more interested in making it!

And now I am afraid the bug has bit me and I am very interested in possibly making my own MF/latex Mattress. I am not intimidated by the education process required (made my own CNC Lathe and 3D printer) to make something.

So a bit about me and my Fiance

I am

26 y/o
5'9" tall
150 lbs
side and back sleeper
run hot

My fiancee

24 y/o
5' tall
about 100 lbs
side and tummy sleeper
runs cold

We have both been sleeping on ancient spring mattresses that have pretty significant dishing (probably over 3" on mine), and hers is incredibly hard. So pretty much anything feels like a HUGE improvement.

We went into a Sleepies and tested out a few simons MF mattresses (can't remember which model) and a tempurpedic contour supreme. All of them felt amazing to us. I guess my point in saying this is that even if I don't design/make the ultimate mattress the first time around, anything I do make will be a significant improvement that I can tweek over time.

So for my questions/thoughts:

My budget is about $500 for the mattress
Will I save money making a decent mattress?
Are there reputable foam suppliers who will sell quality foam online or locally to frederick/baltimore MD?
Can I buy decent quality components within my budget?
Can I tweak comfort levels with toppers after I have assembled my mattress?


If you think there are better options then making my own mattress can you recommend any particular models that come in under $400-$500?

Currently I am looking at these for premade options

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0063OQNYO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AOFIBMXVIVCJ6
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001E972O8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007HD9YYQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AOFIBMXVIVCJ6

If you need any other information to make an informed recomendation I will try and update this thread soon as I can. We are probably going to make a decision sometime this week.

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Tight budget - DIY or? 06 Jul 2014 19:43 #2

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I'm sure Phoenix will chime in soon, but here are some thoughts:

My budget is about $500 for the mattress
Will I save money making a decent mattress?

Probably not

Are there reputable foam suppliers who will sell quality foam online or locally to frederick/baltimore MD?

Check out this post. www.themattressunderground.com/mattress-forum/general-mattresses/5398-foam-factory-any-good.html#5411

Can I buy decent quality components within my budget?

You don't say what size mattress you need.

If you think there are better options then making my own mattress can you recommend any particular models that come in under $400-$500?


www.amazon.com/DreamFoam-Bedding-Customizable-Mattress-Queen/dp/B00JGBXWVI/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

www.amazon.com/Tuft-Needle-Handcrafted-Mattress-Queen/dp/B00DRR8G4U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404700892&sr=8-1&keywords=tuft+and+needle

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Tight budget - DIY or? 06 Jul 2014 20:01 #3

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oops we want to get/make a queen size mattress

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Tight budget - DIY or? 06 Jul 2014 20:42 #4

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Hi URSTECH,

I would make sure you've read the mattress shopping tutorial here which includes some basic information and guidelines that will help you "get up to speed" about the type and quality of the materials to look for and the type and design of mattress you want to build.

If you are thinking about designing and building your own mattress with your own separate components then I would also read post #15 here and especially the part under option #3 and the posts it links to.

My budget is about $500 for the mattress
Will I save money making a decent mattress?


That depends on the type of mattress you build, which mattress you are "targeting" as a blueprint, where you source your layers and components from, and on how many "mistakes" you make before you find your ideal configuration.

Are there reputable foam suppliers who will sell quality foam online or locally to frederick/baltimore MD?


jankdc provided a link to a list of the better DIY online suppliers I'm aware of. There may also be some local options in the Baltimore list here but I doubt that any of them would be in the same budget range as the online suppliers in the list. www.house-of-foam.com/ may also be worth a call or a visit.

Can I buy decent quality components within my budget?


That would depend on the size of your mattress, on the type and thickness of the layers in your design, and on the type of cover you choose. You are probably in the budget range where good quality polyfoam is reasonable but your budget is almost certainly too low for good quality memory foam or latex in a suitable design (except perhaps in fairly thin layers).

Currently I am looking at these for premade options

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0063OQNYO/ref...1&smid=AOFIBMXVIVCJ6
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001E972O8/ref...1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007HD9YYQ/ref...1&smid=AOFIBMXVIVCJ6


I would make sure that all of these meet the foam quality guidelines in post #4 here and that you know the foam density of all the layers before considering any of these. I would also read post #6 here and the posts it links to along with this topic before considering a Lucid mattress. A forum search on Lucid (you can just click the link) will bring up more information about them as well.

Some of the better latex or latex hybrid options I'm aware of that are in a lower budget range are listed in posts #3 and #4 here .

Some of the better manufacturers or retailers that have memory foam or polyfoam mattresses in a lower budget range are listed in post #4 here .

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Tight budget - DIY or? 06 Jul 2014 22:19 #5

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The Tuft & Needle 10 looks interesting... I can't find any info on what type of foam they actually are using though?


I was considering a hybrid build. Some kind of Polyfoam (6"?) base with a 3" layer of Talalay Latex. Thoughts? Sorry if I'm horribly over simplifying this. I may even be well over budget with that since I cannot seem to find any pricing resources on the Polyfoam core.

The Ikea Hybrid maybe an options

www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/70272144/#/60272149

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Tight budget - DIY or? 06 Jul 2014 22:29 #6

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With the DreamFoam 12 in 1 should I be worried about durability since it only has 2 lb foam?

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Tight budget - DIY or? 06 Jul 2014 22:33 #7

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Hi URSTech

With the DreamFoam 12 in 1 should I be worried about durability since it only has 2 lb foam?


No ... 2 lb polyfoam is a good quality and durable material (and above the 1.8 lb density polyfoam that I would normally recommend as a minimum for comfort layers in a one sided mattress ... see post #13 here ).

This would be a good quality/value choice in this budget range that would be well worth considering.

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Tight budget - DIY or? 07 Jul 2014 17:04 #8

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Thanks for the recomendations! I decided to go ahead and get the 12 in 1. I figure if I want I can replace one of the layers with a Latex, MF or Gel later. and seeing how this is only $400 I probably could not get 3 layers of 2 lb poly and a mattress cover for that. Even adding a latex layer or high end MF and I would still be well under the average cost of an equivalent hybrid mattress.

Just realized I could have gotten a free pillow it seems being a member of this site. Oh well order is placed and I can't wait to get off this horrible air mattress!

Thanks for all the amazing information you have put up Phoenix. spent the last few days pouring over a lot of your posts trying to absorb as much as I could, so as to make an educated decision.

What are your thoughts on the various materials and their ability to dissipate heat? From what I have read gel memory foams and Latex seem to be the best. Are they roughly the same or is one decidedly superior?

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Tight budget - DIY or? 07 Jul 2014 17:23 #9

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Phoenix will chime in, but you may want to look at cotton/wool mattress pads. The wool will help cool things. Also with the 12 in 1, if you want to customize both sides of the mattress, you will need to cut the foam in half. There are posts about cutting foam (an electric carving knife helps).

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Tight budget - DIY or? 07 Jul 2014 17:52 #10

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I also had a question of the DIY variety, though I am not as ambitious as the gentleman that posted above.

I am looking at 3' latex matress toppers being sold on Amazon by Dreamfoam Bedding. At about $400.00 apiece for each king-size topper, three or four of these toppers sandwiched together would run between $1200 and $1600.

That seems much much cheaper than a comparable mattress set being sold by Foam Sweet Foam or Flobeds which are also really just sandwiched layers of latex.

Couldn't I just buy the layers from Amazon individually, then encase them in a king-size mattress cover and save myself a bunch of money?

Is there any reason not to do this and get the full mattress set instead?

www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Dreams-Talalay-Mattress-Topper/dp/B0089ZY9ZA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1404780314&sr=8-4&keywords=ultimate+dreams+latex

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