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Wool Mattress Pad Question/Advice 09 Jul 2014 20:33 #11

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Phoenix,

Regarding the St. Dormier vs. the 45th street bedding one. 45th street would make a latex mattress cooler, but firmer than the St. Dormier. The St. Dormier would retain more of the feel of the latex though?

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Wool Mattress Pad Question/Advice 09 Jul 2014 20:36 #12

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Hi jankdc,

I think that would be a reasonable assessment yes :)

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Wool Mattress Pad Question/Advice 10 Jul 2014 07:22 #13

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I haven't needed to wash my king Dormeir very often but when I have it completely fills my washer and dryer when dry. And this is with only 4.5 oz of wool. You would want to make sure that if you are buying something thicker that it will actually fit and be cleanable in your home laundry equipment.

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Wool Mattress Pad Question/Advice 10 Jul 2014 11:35 #14

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Since I already have the 1" Sleeptek/Naturally Organic (1000) wool topper, would I be better off with the St. Dormier over the 7.5oz/sq.yd. 45th Street Bedding one if I'm using it on top of the Sleeptek??

I'm guessing I could return the 45th Street Bedding one as long as I haven't used it.



UPDATE: I did see the website that mentions that the St. Dormeir uses 4.5oz wool/sq.yd. It's the St. Geneve website page. But the St. Dormeir website page doesn't mention the weight at all, at least I couldn't find a link to that information. Most retailer sites still list this as having 7.5 oz/sq.yd.

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Wool Mattress Pad Question/Advice 10 Jul 2014 13:14 #15

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Hi AnalogJ,

Since I already have the 1" Sleeptek/Naturally Organic (1000) wool topper, would I be better off with the St. Dormier over the 7.5oz/sq.yd. 45th Street Bedding one if I'm using it on top of the Sleeptek??


There are a lot of variables when you are comparing two wool products including the type and breed of wool, the amount of wool in each one, how the wool is compressed and quilted, and the type of fabric that covers it, and I think this is really only possible to answer based on your own personal preferences and experience and why you are considering one over the other ... especially when you already have a wool topper on your mattress.

I suspect that either one would likely be fine since you already have a wool topper on top of your mattress and seem to like the "feel" of thicker wool layers but in very general terms thicker layers of wool will modify the effect of the mattress or foam materials underneath them more than thinner layers.

I believe the 45th St Bedding uses 10 oz/yd of wool . You can see my comments about washing and drying my Queen NaturaProtect protector which also has 10 oz of wool in this post . It's a full load.

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Wool Mattress Pad Question/Advice 10 Jul 2014 13:25 #16

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Hi Phoenix -

I can tell you that I didn't prefer more wool. The 1000 and 2000 Sleeptek toppers differ in 1" vs. 3" depth of wool. I found the 2000 too much and a bit too warm, The 1" or whatever is in the 1000 just right. On top of that, we're getting the mattress pad to absorb some nightsweats and the like that my wife (and I'm sure I do as well, to a lesser extent). We can wash the mattress pad, not the topper. I have not been able to try them out in tandem. We did order the 45th Street Bedding one and it's on its way.

That's the entire purpose of our purchase. We don't want to reduce breathability, we don't need extra padding. It's just for a way to protect the expensive (just short of $600) topper. We thought a wool/cotton pad would be the best at doing the trick.

I can't compare the St. Dormeir and the 45th Street Bedding ones without ordering both and feeling them in my hand (I can't obviously use them). But whatever keeps full breathability while changing the overall feel and support of the mattress the least will be the one we'd want.

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Wool Mattress Pad Question/Advice 10 Jul 2014 13:31 #17

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And, by the way, I do have 30 days to return the unused pad for a refund. Sure, I'd probably be "okay" with either, but, as we all are here, we're trying to be a bit pro-active.

Another thing, I do anticipate that I will not be able to wash this thing in my own home washing machine. When it needs cleaning, I'm guessing that it will be a trip to the laundromat. I have no idea whether the St. Dormeir would fit either. Mine's an older top loading machine.

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Wool Mattress Pad Question/Advice 10 Jul 2014 13:40 #18

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I contacted 45th St Bedding to ask if the mattress pad was woven or knit cotton in the skirting. This is the reply..

"The cotton is woven over the entire mattress pad. The skirting is also woven cotton. The only material that is not cotton or wool on the entire mattress pad is the elastic in the gather to keep it on the bed. "

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Wool Mattress Pad Question/Advice 10 Jul 2014 14:00 #19

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I contacted 45th St Bedding to ask if the mattress pad was woven or knit cotton in the skirting. This is the reply..

"The cotton is woven over the entire mattress pad. The skirting is also woven cotton. The only material that is not cotton or wool on the entire mattress pad is the elastic in the gather to keep it on the bed. "


Yup. After I described to them at Bedrooms and More what the difference was and how to determine the difference, they were able to tell me it is woven, which is generally tighter than knit. This means that it's firmer, but generally more durable than knit.

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Wool Mattress Pad Question/Advice 10 Jul 2014 15:11 #20

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Hi AnalogJ,

I can tell you that I didn't prefer more wool. The 1000 and 2000 Sleeptek toppers differ in 1" vs. 3" depth of wool. I found the 2000 too much and a bit too warm, The 1" or whatever is in the 1000 just right.


I probably should have said "relatively" thicker layers of wool since you already have a wool topper and are adding a wool protector on top of this although as you mentioned it's fairly thin relative to other toppers.

It would be rare to see a knit cotton in a wool topper and most of them would use a woven fabric. Even in mattress tickings you may see a knit material on one side of the quilting but the backing is most often a woven material.

That's the entire purpose of our purchase. We don't want to reduce breathability, we don't need extra padding. It's just for a way to protect the expensive (just short of $600) topper. We thought a wool/cotton pad would be the best at doing the trick.


Even very thick layers of wool would be highly breathable. You can see a picture here of the large amount of wool used in a VI Springs mattress which is then highly compressed and they are among the most breathable mattresses available anywhere in the world.

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