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Exhausted in search, undecided and probably unrealistic - thoughts? 03 Jun 2014 18:22 #1

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Greetings!

Interestingly, this site came up in a google search for ikea mattress reviews, and here I am. I've been shopping, online and in person for about 2 months now. I'm tired of looking at what appears to be the same thing just made by different companies and I'm lost.

I have read (and re read) the How to look for and find the best mattress ... for YOU! ***READ FIRST*** thread by Phoenix and there's a lot of great info there! I'm hoping someone will be able to give me what I imagine is a much needed reality check. :-)

Right now I have a full Comfort Dreams Select a Firmness memory foam, 13 inch, mattress from Overstock. I've had it for about 2 years and am pretty happy with it, actually. The only reason a new mattress has come into the picture is I'd like a queen.

I started with IKEA - their Hultsvik and Holmsta , but I was leaning more towards the Hultsvik due to the thickness and coil counts.

I'm not thin, neither is my partner, 5 foot 8, about 250, and 6 foot about 250. That was why I really settled on the thick 13 inch memory foam mattress.

Where I'm lost is finding something that's going to last at least 5 years and be comfy. I'm also confused with ILD quality, foam v latex and reputable companies to purchase from. IKEA is a possibility, but reviews on their mattresses greatly vary - I must emphasize, greatly. And the particular mattress I was looking at has maybe 3 reviews online. That said, I did lay on the 2 IKEA mattresses, and do like the Hultsvik.

Others I'm "familiar" with are Saavta, Brooklyn Bedding, and I've heard of Dreamfoam. Saavta I've really ruled out as some of their background information isn't the most positive.

With my weight, something tells me I'll need a thicker mattress, but I don't want to sleep on something as firm as rocks. (of course, finding the right firmness is going to be a personal preference), but I don't want it to break down in a few years.

My budget is really supposed to stay in the $600-$700 range, but if I had to, I could expand it. It would have to be worth it though. All of this said, am I being unrealistic, have I diluted my opinions by starting at IKEA? Am I looking in the wrong places? Can someone clarify my thoughts on the weight v density thing?

Apologies if this was long winded and more apologies if there's somewhere on the site or forums that answers my questions :) There's a lot of info here, and I really appreciate that everyone has spent a lot of time making it happen.

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Exhausted in search, undecided and probably unrealistic - thoughts? 03 Jun 2014 19:03 #2

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Hi tbonecopper,


I'm glad you found us before you ended up making an unwise purchase :)

Outside of testing a mattress for PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) a mattress is only as good as its construction and the quality of the materials inside it. The information you would need to identify any weak links in a mattress is in this article and once you know this then you can compare the foam densities to the guidelines here .

They don't list the density of the memory foam they use but I believe it's in the range of 3 lb which is a low quality material and that in combination with the lower coil count of the pocket springs means that this mattress would probably break down fairly quickly with your weight (or even someone that was considerably lighter) and I would avoid the Hultsvik completely.

The latex in the Holmsta is a more durable material than the memory foam in the Hultsvik but I would want to know the specifics (such as how thick is the latex layer) and once again you would still have a relatively weak spring underneath it and even though the springs aren't normally the weak link in a mattress ... in your case with your higher weight and the relative thinness of the latex (which you would need to confirm) it would become a more important factor in the durability of the mattress. I would tend to avoid this one as well.

Where I'm lost is finding something that's going to last at least 5 years and be comfy. I'm also confused with ILD quality, foam v latex and reputable companies to purchase from. IKEA is a possibility, but reviews on their mattresses greatly vary - I must emphasize, greatly. And the particular mattress I was looking at has maybe 3 reviews online. That said, I did lay on the 2 IKEA mattresses, and do like the Hultsvik.


You can see my thoughts about online mattress reviews in post #13 here and as you can see they are among the worst ways to choose a mattress. I wouldn't pay much attention to them because most of the people who review a mattress have little idea of the quality of the materials inside it and don't have much knowledge about mattresses in general. In addition to this ... each person can have a very different experience on the same mattress so what is "perfect" for one person may be completely unsuitable for someone else to sleep on.

Reviews about the transparency, knowledge, experience, and service of a store can be helpful but reviews that only talk about other people's experiences on a mattress would have little relevance to you.

Others I'm "familiar" with are Saavta, Brooklyn Bedding, and I've heard of Dreamfoam. Saavta I've really ruled out as some of their background information isn't the most positive.


You can read an analysis of the Saatva mattress in post #1 here and a forum search on Saatva (you can just click the link) will bring up more information and feedback about them as well.

Both Brooklyn Bedding and Dreamfoam are sister companies (see post #3 here ) and are members of this site which means that I think highly of them and they compete well with the best in the industry . They are also both in the list of the better online retailers and manufacturers that are linked in the tutorial post (in the optional online step). With your higher weight though I would make sure that you pay particular attention to the density of the foams in your mattress because a mattress that would be durable for someone who was lighter would be less durable for you.

My budget is really supposed to stay in the $600-$700 range, but if I had to, I could expand it. It would have to be worth it though. All of this said, am I being unrealistic, have I diluted my opinions by starting at IKEA? Am I looking in the wrong places? Can someone clarify my thoughts on the weight v density thing?


Whether you need to increase your budget would depend on the types of materials you prefer but if you are most interested in specialty foams (memory foam or latex) then it would probably be a good idea to increase it somewhat yes.

Post #2 here also has more information about choosing a mattress for those in higher weight ranges that may also be helpful.

If you follow the steps in the tutorial post one at a time (without skipping any) you will have the highest chance of making a successful purchase. If you let me know your city or zip code then I'd also be happy to let you know of any of the better options or possibilities I'm aware of in your area.

The "basics" are to make sure you test a mattress carefully and objectively for PPP (or if you can't test it in person then you would need a more detailed conversation on the phone with an online manufacturer or retailer) so that you know a mattress is suitable for you (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here ).

Once you are confident that a mattress is suitable for you in terms of PPP ... then you need to make sure that you know the specifics of the materials inside it so that you can also make sure that the mattress would be durable for you.

Once you have confirmed that any of your finalists are both suitable and durable and you are choosing between "good and good" ... then you can make a final choice based on the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.

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Exhausted in search, undecided and probably unrealistic - thoughts? 03 Jun 2014 19:08 #3

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Thanks Phoenix!

My zip code is 32205.

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Exhausted in search, undecided and probably unrealistic - thoughts? 03 Jun 2014 19:39 #4

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Hi tbonecopper,

The better options or possibilities I'm aware of in the Jacksonville, FL area are listed in post #7 here .

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Exhausted in search, undecided and probably unrealistic - thoughts? 03 Jun 2014 19:43 #5

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Oh awesome! Thanks! Do you have any info on Ocala or Orlando places? :)

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Exhausted in search, undecided and probably unrealistic - thoughts? 03 Jun 2014 19:59 #6

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Hi tbonecopper,

The better options and possibilities I'm aware of in the Ocala area are listed in post #2 here and for Orlando are listed in post #2 here .

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Exhausted in search, undecided and probably unrealistic - thoughts? 03 Jun 2014 20:04 #7

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Thanks. So are the IKEA beds as bad as they say? Or is that just rumors and competitive noise? The 2 I have my eye on are in my price range and I'd be able to get a topper if I desired.. it is just easier that way.

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Exhausted in search, undecided and probably unrealistic - thoughts? 03 Jun 2014 20:35 #8

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Hi tbonecopper,

So are the IKEA beds as bad as they say? Or is that just rumors and competitive noise?


Outside of the suitability of a mattress in terms of PPP (which is the most important part of the "value" of a mattress) ... a mattress is only as good as its construction and the quality of the materials inside it and the name of the manufacturer on a label means very little so it would depend on which of the Ikea mattresses you are talking about and the specifics of the materials inside them.

They have some better quality/value mattresses and some mattresses that I wouldn't consider at all. There is more about Ikea mattresses in post #3 here and some of the posts it links to about some of their new models.

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Exhausted in search, undecided and probably unrealistic - thoughts? 04 Jun 2014 10:02 #9

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Thanks so much!

I phoned Fox Mattress, as they are about 1-1.2 hrs from me and spoke with Mic for at least half an hour. We're going to drive down this weekend and check things out :) Hopefully I'll have some more clarity.

On the way down, we'll be stopping at Best Mattress Jax to see what they have, as well.

I'll report back when I can with more details :) Thanks again!

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Exhausted in search, undecided and probably unrealistic - thoughts? 04 Jun 2014 11:18 #10

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Hi tbonecopper,

It sounds like you are looking in some good directions and I'm looking forward to your feedback after your trip :).

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