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The 10 in. Tuft & Needle Diary 08 Apr 2014 19:41 #51

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I've had mine for a few nights now and I can honestly say I look forward to sleeping every night for the first time ever. It just feels... good when I lay down, if a $300 mattress feels this good I can't imagine what a more expensive model would feel like. Provided it lasts awhile, or even if it barely makes the 5 year warranty, it's still an amazing deal. As of now I'd gladly buy another one once I get my own place.

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The 10 in. Tuft & Needle Diary 10 Apr 2014 16:10 #52

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Update from my experience.

We bought this topper from Amazon:
www.amazon.com/Double-Removable-Mattress-Pillow-Fitted/dp/B00FX0QMLI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1397171121&sr=8-3&keywords=mattress+pad

It was the double thick (supposed to be 2.5inches) and is very well reviewed. It is a very nice topper, but unfortunately still didn't soften the bed up enough for me. Two nights with it and I am still waking up with a sore back. It took 7 days to arrive so for those 7 days we slept on our old mattress which seems blissful now. Sigh.

I really, desperately want to keep the mattress. I like the company, like their principles, customer service, etc. I like that I can get up easily from the mattress and there is no "sink in" like we have with our other mattress... but the sore back is starting to wear on me. I know our ancestors didn't have these fluffy beds... is this something I would eventually just get used to? I haven't ever heard someone saying "having back problems? get a softer mattress! It is usually get a firmer mattress.

Think this is just breaking in / body adjusting? Just looking for some last minute advice before I do an RMA and start this whole process again.

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The 10 in. Tuft & Needle Diary 10 Apr 2014 20:00 #53

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Hi Timmdogg,

A fiber topper or mattress pad (see post #10 here ) can add a little bit of additional cushioning under your pressure points but they are not as resilient as a foam topper and don't redistribute weight along the sleeping surface of your body as well as foam. They are more for "feel" than overall pressure relief.

If you are looking for pressure relief more than "feel" (which it appears you are) then a foam topper would probably be a better choice. There are some topper guidelines here that may be helpful.

I know our ancestors didn't have these fluffy beds... is this something I would eventually just get used to? I haven't ever heard someone saying "having back problems? get a softer mattress! It is usually get a firmer mattress.

Think this is just breaking in / body adjusting? Just looking for some last minute advice before I do an RMA and start this whole process again.


A mattress that is too firm for your specific needs and preferences is just as likely to cause discomfort, pain, or alignment issues as a mattress that is too firm (see post #2 here ). The goal is always to find a mattress that is "right" for you in terms of PPP. Our ancestors had very different lifestyles than we did and there are many people who would suggest a softer mattress with certain types of back issues. The "old days" of suggesting firmer mattresses for all back issues are long over as it was understood that contouring support that keeps the spine in alignment is much more important than firmer support. It's also important to remember that primary support/alignment comes from the deeper layers of the mattress and each person also needs suitable comfort layers that can relieve pressure in all their sleeping positions.

There is more in post #2 here about mattresses that are too firm but the normal break in period of a mattress is usually in the range of 30 - 90 days (sometimes sooner and rarely longer). If after a month or so or even a little sooner it's clear to you that things aren't improving (or are getting worse) then it's quite likely that the mattress isn't suitable or at least not ideal for you.

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The 10 in. Tuft & Needle Diary 11 Apr 2014 06:27 #54

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Just a personal thought here... based on my history with lower back pain as of late... lower back pain, to me, is often a leading indicator or poor core strength... everytime I start to develope lower back pain double down on my core strength training and I start to feel better.

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The 10 in. Tuft & Needle Diary 11 Apr 2014 09:05 #55

Hi all!

Thank you for starting this thread, it has been extremely helpful. I am looking at purchasing the 10inch, and was wondering how you would compare this mattress to other foam mattresses.

I tried out an icomfort, I believe, at a mattress store, and wasn't a fan.

Thanks!

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The 10 in. Tuft & Needle Diary 11 Apr 2014 12:47 #56

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Hi mitchejj,

Just a personal thought here... based on my history with lower back pain as of late... lower back pain, to me, is often a leading indicator or poor core strength... everytime I start to develope lower back pain double down on my core strength training and I start to feel better.


That's good advice and while a mattress can certainly play a role in back pain ... physical conditioning and flexibility is also a big part of back pain or how well someone sleeps. Post #1 here has some good advice from one of the members here that reflects some similar thoughts to your own.

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The 10 in. Tuft & Needle Diary 11 Apr 2014 13:23 #57

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Hi jazz,

Thank you for starting this thread, it has been extremely helpful. I am looking at purchasing the 10inch, and was wondering how you would compare this mattress to other foam mattresses.


That would depend on the type of foam you meant (polyfoam, memory foam, latex foam) and on the specifics of the mattress you were comparing. There are thousands of "foam" mattresses that have different types of foam and designs that would all be different from each other.

I tried out an icomfort, I believe, at a mattress store, and wasn't a fan.


The iComfort mattresses are memory foam mattresses (which generally have various layers of memory foam over a polyfoam support core although some of them have other materials in the mix) so they are really an apples to oranges comparison with an all polyfoam mattress like the Tuft & Needle although like other major brand mattresses I don't consider the iComfort mattresses to be particulary good quality or value choices for most people (see the guidelines here ).

Polyfoam is a lower cost material than specialty foams like memory foam and latex but there is also a range of grades and densities that determine the quality, performance, durability, and cost of polyfoam. They use @2 lb polyfoam which is a good quality and durable polyfoam but it will be very different from a memory foam or latex mattress both in terms of cost, performance, and "feel" (which is very subjective) and it will also be different from other polyfoam mattresses that use different types of polyfoam or have a different design and layering.

It's certainly carefully designed and could be a good quality/value choice for those that are in a lower budget range that doesn't allow for more specialty foam materials or components and would be a good option for those that would prefer a firmer "all polyfoam" mattress as long as it's likely to be a good match for their specific needs and preferences in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) and the other parts of their personal value equation that are most important to them.

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The 10 in. Tuft & Needle Diary 11 Apr 2014 14:03 #58

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Very informative thread as I decide to pull the trigger on a 10 inch queen purchase. Thanks for everyone's contribution thus far.

As a general FYI, customer service told me today that current wait times on the 10 inch queen mattress is about 2 weeks production / preparation and 2-3 days shipping (West Coast) and about a week for East Coast shipping.

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The 10 in. Tuft & Needle Diary 11 Apr 2014 14:37 #59

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Hi sleepy-tristate,

Thanks for the update about shipping times and for letting us know what you ended up deciding.

You certainly made a great quality/value choice in your budget range and I'm looking forward to your feedback when you've received it and have had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.

Most importantly ... congratulations on your new mattress :)

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The 10 in. Tuft & Needle Diary 11 Apr 2014 15:55 #60

Hi jazz,

Thank you for starting this thread, it has been extremely helpful. I am looking at purchasing the 10inch, and was wondering how you would compare this mattress to other foam mattresses.


That would depend on the type of foam you meant (polyfoam, memory foam, latex foam) and on the specifics of the mattress you were comparing. There are thousands of "foam" mattresses that have different types of foam and designs that would all be different from each other.

I tried out an icomfort, I believe, at a mattress store, and wasn't a fan.


The iComfort mattresses are memory foam mattresses (which generally have various layers of memory foam over a polyfoam support core although some of them have other materials in the mix) so they are really an apples to oranges comparison with an all polyfoam mattress like the Tuft & Needle although like other major brand mattresses I don't consider the iComfort mattresses to be particulary good quality or value choices for most people (see the guidelines here ).

Polyfoam is a lower cost material than specialty foams like memory foam and latex but there is also a range of grades and densities that determine the quality, performance, durability, and cost of polyfoam. They use @2 lb polyfoam which is a good quality and durable polyfoam but it will be very different from a memory foam or latex mattress both in terms of cost, performance, and "feel" (which is very subjective) and it will also be different from other polyfoam mattresses that use different types of polyfoam or have a different design and layering.

It's certainly carefully designed and could be a good quality/value choice for those that are in a lower budget range that doesn't allow for more specialty foam materials or components and would be a good option for those that would prefer a firmer "all polyfoam" mattress as long as it's likely to be a good match for their specific needs and preferences in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) and the other parts of their personal value equation that are most important to them.

Phoenix


Thank you for the thorough response Phoenix! I went ahead and pulled the trigger earlier this morning on a 10 inch king. I already received an email stating they started the production process. I will definitely post my review of the mattress once I receive it.

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