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FOX Mattress 30 Mar 2014 05:21 #11

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Hi Phoenix,
We have had our latex mattress from FOX for about 2 months and I wanted to provide a little feedback.

Here's a recap of the mattress specs.:
6"-40 ILD core (100% talalay)
2"-24 ILD comfort layer (100% talalay)
Each side is covered with approx. 1.5" of soy based poly quilted into a cotton cover.

Our Specs: :)
Me: 6'-2". 175#
Wife 5'-1", 128#
Both: 90% side sleepers, 10% back sleepers

This is our first latex mattress and to put it simply...my wife and I love this mattress!
Without a doubt the most comfortable mattress we have ever owned in our 35 years together. And this is not compared to cheap mattresses. We have owned quality inner spring mattresses, most recently from OMF.

I find an interesting dynamic to the latex that distinguishes it from the feel of inner spring. The support is uniform throughout your entire body. Whereas with an innerspring the support is spotty...not that you can feel the springs, but it's just not continuously uniform. Hope that make sense. Also, when you first lay on the mattress it appears very firm but after you lay on it it conforms to your body and is very comfortable. For folks who prefer a more plush feel you might want an extra inch of the 24LD (3" total) comfort layer or a softer layer on top. FOX will customize if desired. But for us it's just right.

Finally, we probably could have saves a few hundred dollars purchasing some where online, but for us being able to go in the store and try it out was worth the cost.

Thanks again for your help and all the info provided on this site.

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FOX Mattress 30 Mar 2014 11:40 #12

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Hi Halifax,

Thanks for taking the time to share your update and comments about your mattress.

I think that your comments about innersprings vs latex especially are a great "real life" explanation of what I call "point elasticity" which is the ability of a mattress to contour to your body shape and profile because latex has millions of cells or "points of compression" and springs have only hundreds and the "even support" that you mentioned is part of the reason that many people prefer latex as a support material.

It's great to see that you and your mattress are getting along so well :)

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FOX Mattress 25 May 2014 08:52 #13

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Hi Phoenix,
I didn't think I'd be back here so soon, but I'm having a bit of an issue with our mattress and would welcome your thoughts. To reiterate our specs from previous posts:

Me: 6'-2". 175#
Wife 5'-1", 128#
Both: 90% side sleepers, 10% back sleepers

6"-40 ILD core (100% talalay)
2"-24 ILD comfort layer (100% talalay)
Each side is covered with approx. 1.5" of soy based poly quilted into a cotton cover.

I still really like this mattress, but over the last month +/- I have been waking up with shoulder aches that are not severe, but noticeable throughout the day. I also find myself changing positions several times during the night. My wife has no issue at all, but she is more evenly proportioned than I am. I have fairly broad shoulders (about 4" from armpit to shoulder). I'm thinking there are 2 possible causes for this situation:

1. The 2"- 24ild comfort layer is too firm for me. Although I would prefer a slightly softer top layer I don't believe this is causing my shoulder issues.

2. The 2"- 24ild comfort layer is too thin and my shoulders are pushing through and contacting the 40ild core. I believe this is the most likely scenario.

I am thinking there are 2 possible solutions to my problem:

1. Contact FOX about a possible surgical solution of adding a thicker/softer layer to the comfort layer of the mattress. I'm a bit reluctant to purse this solution since I live about an hour from their factory and there are no guarantees this would fix it. Plus my wife is happy with the mattress as is and this would be a permanent change that could effect her comfort level.

2. A less intrusive solution would be to add a latex topper. I have read through several of your topper posts on this site and talked with a few of the recommended topper suppliers. There is some difference in opinion on 2" vs 3" and soft vs medium, but the general consensus is that a 2" topper in the 19 ild range might be my best choice for success. I know it's not an exact science. The 2" could be too thin and not eleviate the problem. The 3 " could be too thick and effect support, but I'm leaning towards 2".

An additional note. I did rotate (not flip) the mattress about 6 weeks ago. I don't recall having this issue prior to that although it just may have not been as severe or noticeable.

Anyway, sorry for the long post, but I wanted to give you as much info as possible. I value your expertise and opinion on this subject.

Thanks,
Halifax

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FOX Mattress 25 May 2014 12:10 #14

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Hi Halifax,

Post #2 here has some suggestions for a mattress that is too firm when you first sleep on it and post #2 here has more information about some of the possible causes behind the most common "symptoms" that people may experience on a mattress that may be helpful.

1. The 2"- 24ild comfort layer is too firm for me. Although I would prefer a slightly softer top layer I don't believe this is causing my shoulder issues.

2. The 2"- 24ild comfort layer is too thin and my shoulders are pushing through and contacting the 40ild core. I believe this is the most likely scenario.


I think your "logic" is good and the odds are high that what you are experiencing is either a pillow issue (which can have a significant effect on shoulder pressure points) or as you mentioned you may need some additional thickness/softness in the comfort layers of your mattress.

The first step I would suggest is a more detailed conversation on the phone or in person with Fox Mattress since the manufacturer will have more experience with their mattresses and the options that they have available that have helped others in similar circumstances than anyone else but if a thicker pillow doesn't solve the issue (and this would have the benefit of only affecting your side) then I agree that a topper would be the most logical solution.

If you do decide to go in the direction of a topper then post #2 here and the topper guidelines it links to should be helpful. When you are adding a topper then "just enough" in terms of thickness and softness to relieve pressure points will generally be the least risky in terms of alignment. 2" in a slightly lower ILD than what you have now would be a reasonable "average" choice and as you mentioned would be a little less risky than a thicker topper. It would be very unlikely that you would feel much of the firmness of the support core under your current 2" comfort layer, the 1.5" of quilting foam, and an additional 2" topper.

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FOX Mattress 26 May 2014 06:19 #15

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Thanks again Phoenix.
Any suggestions on pillows? My wife uses a latex about 6" thick that she likes. I am also aware that tempurpedic makes a memory foam pillow that can be kind of shaped to fit...similar to a bean bag.

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FOX Mattress 26 May 2014 08:54 #16

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Hi Halifax,

Any suggestions on pillows?


I don't have any specific suggestions for pillows (pillows are too personal an item with too many individual preferences involved) but the pillow thread here should be helpful.

Pillows that are "scrunchable" are a good idea for people who sleep in different positions and need a different pillow height for each position and there are also pillows (often with shredded latex but other materials as well) that have a zip cover and can be customized with different amounts of fill so you can adjust the height and/or softness on an individual basis.

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FOX Mattress 06 Sep 2014 13:02 #17

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Halifax, any update on your shoulder comfort? My husband and I are considering this same mattress. He is 6', 190lb is a side sleeper and has large shoulders - I measured according to the tips and tricks page, and he needs about 4" of cushioning for his shoulders. I'm wondering how your mattress is working out, and if you resolved your shoulder pain issue? My husband has shoulder pain with our old mattress, and it is something we want a new mattress to address.

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