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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 02 Sep 2013 16:52 #1

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Phoneix have you heard of this dealer www.bedsunlimited.net/contact/beds-unlimited-mattress-store-in-los-angeles-ca-brentwood
they carry the pur latex bliss line but if you go to that site and read the part about talalay vs latex it doesnt seem to equate what you say here on this forum -Warning: Do not buy from companies that import latex in solid form, all imported solid cores have been sprayed with pesticides. Only Latex Bliss Manufactures and pours their latex in the states using the Talalay process. Talalay process takes 14 hours to produce vs a Dunlop process, which takes 1 hour. The quality difference between Dunlop & Talalay process is that Dunlop produces inconsistent latex which very in feel from one section to another and breaks down much faster.-

In any event Ill check them out tomorrow... I prefer all organic but they seeem to have several different choices (they claim those are made exclusive for their company)---any downside to purchasing pure latex bliss mattresses and are there any online companies that have the same quality using all talalay?

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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 02 Sep 2013 20:32 #2

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Hi mike7,

Phoneix have you heard of this dealer www.bedsunlimited.net/contact/beds-unlim...angeles-ca-brentwood
they carry the pur latex bliss line but if you go to that site and read the part about talalay vs latex it doesnt seem to equate what you say here on this forum -Warning: Do not buy from companies that import latex in solid form, all imported solid cores have been sprayed with pesticides. Only Latex Bliss Manufactures and pours their latex in the states using the Talalay process.


That's a whole lot of misleading information in a single paragraph :)

Latex (or any cargo) is fumigated when it enters the country if it's put on wooden pallets to kill the pests that may otherwise infect the forests here. See this page . I can't imagine an importer that would be silly enough or want to bear the cost of fumigating by putting latex fores on wooden pallets.

There are 3 manufacturers that pour latex in North America (Pure Latex Bliss, Latexco, and Mountaintop foam) but they are right that only one of them pours Talalay latex.

Talalay process takes 14 hours to produce vs a Dunlop process, which takes 1 hour. The quality difference between Dunlop & Talalay process is that Dunlop produces inconsistent latex which very in feel from one section to another and breaks down much faster.-


This is also "partly true" but also depends on the type of Dunlop that the Talalay is being compared to. Continuous pour Dunlop is almost as consistent as Talalay in terms of ILD and also comes in softer versions. There is more about the different types of latex in post #6 here .

In any event Ill check them out tomorrow... I prefer all organic but they seeem to have several different choices (they claim those are made exclusive for their company)---any downside to purchasing pure latex bliss mattresses and are there any online companies that have the same quality using all talalay?


If you prefer organic latex (vs 100% natural) then you would be limited to the few Dunlop foam manufacturers that make latex that is certified organic (although there is no functional difference between organic and 100% natural Dunlop latex). You can read more about organic latex in post #6 here .

Post #1 here includes all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choices including a link to a list of the members here that sell latex mattresses online in a wide variety of designs and with many options in terms of the type of latex they offer.

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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 03 Sep 2013 07:37 #3

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thanks for the response -regarding comparable mattresses to pure blisss --- the post regarding selectfoam cloning the tempupedic is an example of another comparable company ---- are there any like that whihch compare to pure bliss latex mattresses ---

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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 03 Sep 2013 19:41 #4

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Hi mike7,

Pure latex Bliss isn't a manufacturer that is large enough or widely available enough for another manufacturer to have much interest in using them as a design target so you would be dependent on the "educated intuition" of a manufacturer to translate any of the PLB designs into the options they have available that they believe would be the closest approximation.

Your ability to exchange or re-arrange layers can also play a role in an online purchase so that you can use your own sleeping experience as a reference point and then make adjustments based on your actual longer term experience on the mattress.

The only way to have an exact match would be to use the same type and thickness of latex layers in the same ILD's and a very similar cover and it's not likely another manufacturer would have be the same in all the ways that could make a difference so some "translation" between designs would be necessary.

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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 06 Sep 2013 07:45 #5

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Thanks Phoenix - The only other question I have is the pure bliss mattresses use a fusion layer that is supposed to keep you cooler and warmer based on the temperature, thus it seems to make it different than any other latex mattress. I understand people trying to match the model they like. Am I to understand that when it comes to the that layer in particular there isnt a company that offers it? I couldnt find a response mentioning it in this forum.

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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 06 Sep 2013 16:19 #6

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Hi mike7,

Am I to understand that when it comes to the that layer in particular there isnt a company that offers it? I couldnt find a response mentioning it in this forum.


You can read a little more about Talalay GL fast response in post #5 here . It is basically blended Talalay latex with phase change gel added to it to help give it a bit of an edge with temperature regulation compared to regular Talalay. Part of the reason for its intrduction I believe was also to "compete" with some of the gel memory foams at least in terms of peception because latex is already one of the most breathable of all the foam materials.

Sleep Like a Bear carries it (although they still call it Celsion) in all three ILD's that Latex International makes available.

Mattresses.net also carries the Talalay GL slow response version as far as I know.

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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 06 Sep 2013 19:17 #7

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We have a Pure Latex Bliss-the nature model. We have only had it a week and a half but we couldn't be happier. I am extremely sensitive to odors and outgassing. I expected there to be a slight smell from the mattress but I never noticed one. We bought the PLB pillows as well and for a few days they did have what I would describe as a slight lemony smell. It didn't give me a headache and almost smelled good. The mattress has reduced my husbands chronic pain. We haven't felt at all hot and have slept better than we have in a long time. I have no complaints at all.

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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 07 Sep 2013 16:33 #8

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thank you for the response The Pure Bliss beautiful mattress is 4300 plus tax and the topper is $499 --- but I liked the feel ---So many confusing reviews as to the online stores where people try to mimick the pure bliss It gets very frustrating especially when the savings can be $1500. Flobeds and the zoning mattresses seems a bit odd to me as the zones may not fall into the different heights. Their videos demonstrate how it works and the man lays on the bed but his head is further down than most people sleep. Reading these sites only adds to the confusion lol. Sleep ez seems like a good choice but they dont use the cooling gel layer like purebliss and some of the reviews dont seem that great. Is it possible to purchase a purebliss online to avoid the tax?
Its tooo bad people dont post reviews after a tear or so but I guess thats how we are wired. Once they get their beds they no longer have a need to come here

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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 07 Sep 2013 18:55 #9

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Whoa. That seems like a high price. You should be able to find a better deal than that on the beautiful. We tried that model as well but decided it was too soft for us. You will have to call around because of the MAP pricing they can't advertise a lower price.

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Inquiry Latex pure bliss 07 Sep 2013 21:42 #10

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Hi mike7,

I agree with wavycat and you could do much better for a mattress with 12" of latex.

I would also take online reviews with a big grain of salt ... most people who write reviews have little knowledge about mattresses (or what they have purchased). You can read more about reviews in post #13 here . I haven't seen a legitimate poor review for SleepEz. There are always a small minority of customers who have difficulty finding their ideal layering with any component mattress (or any mattress for that matter) but that has nothing to do with the quality of the mattress or their service and it also doesn't reflect the fact that the large majority of their customers are happy with the layering they end up with and are happy that they had the chance to fine tune their mattress after their purchase when it was necessary.

I think you would do well to talk with some of the manufacturers you are mentioning so you can get more accurate and meaningful information about their mattresses. In the case of Fobeds and SleepEz you will get more meaningful information about their mattress in a phone conversation directly with them than you would from spending many hours reading reviews.

As I mentioned in an earlier reply I wouldn't pay too much attention to the gel in talalay GL latex because Talalay is already the most breathable of all the foam materials and you may be thinking it's more important or effective than it is. You can read a little more about the many factors that can affect the temperature of a mattress (besides just the type of foam used) in post #2 here .

There are several places you may be able to order a PLB mattress online including www.themattressexpert.com/pure-latexbliss.html and it may be worth talking to www.mattresses.net/ as well who are also PLB dealers.

Overall though ... I would focus on following the steps in post #1 here one step at a time and this can help you bypass all the conflicting and in many cases misleading information that is so common in the industry and only adds to the confusion and "information overwhelm" of mattress shopping

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