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Mattress comfort layers - Memory foam 22 Jun 2019 09:19 #61

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Hey Mia12345,

No info yet on the Simmons guy, first guy I called is working for another company, so he gave me a lead on some marketing people at Simmons and one Future Foam perosn....but it's about timing as it's hard to figure when I get the person that still has the info. And I hate to have it hold up any of your direction.

Ok noted on the foamorder, yes they have blocks of poly foam...of course a memory foam mattress turned upside down can "work" it just seems like you are paying for some memory foam that is wasted on the bottom....that's my only hold up.

One thing that I have to make sure I say, is even if we find the exact densities and exact foam that was used, doing this DIY will not replicate the feel of the Comforpedic, as the manufacturing one finished mattress, and using a sewn edge versus a zipper cover, and adhering the layers together, etc etc, it won't feel the same. I am going to post a variety of links and different posts in my next reply that will have links to numerous discussions about the DIY process.

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Mattress comfort layers - Memory foam 22 Jun 2019 10:26 #62

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Hey Mia12345,

Below are some posts taken from other DIY threads and answers:


If you are attracted to the idea of designing and building your own DIY mattress out of separate components and a separate cover then the first place I would start is by reading option 3 in post #15 here and the posts it links to (and option #1 and #2 as well) so that you have more realistic expectations and that you are comfortable with the learning curve, uncertainty, trial and error, or in some cases the higher costs that may be involved in the DIY process. While it can certainly be a rewarding project ... the best approach to a DIY mattress is a "spirit of adventure" where what you learn and the satisfaction that comes from the process itself is more important than any cost savings you may realize (which may or may not happen).

Outside of a mattress with more layers having more options to customize the mattress, if a mattress is a good match for you, then one isn't inherently any better than the other.

If you are planning to remove and replace all the foam layers in your mattress and only re-use the cover and you are attracted to the idea of designing and building your own DIY mattress out of separate components that are purchased from one or several different sources then the first place I would start is by reading option 3 in post #15 here and the posts it links to (and option #1 and #2 as well) so that you have more realistic expectations and that you are comfortable with the learning curve, uncertainty, trial and error, or in some cases the higher costs that may be involved in the DIY process. While it can certainly be a rewarding project ... the best approach to a DIY mattress is a "spirit of adventure" where what you learn and the satisfaction that comes from the process itself is more important than any cost savings you may realize (which may or may not happen).

There is also more about primary or "deep" support and secondary or "surface" support and their relationship to firmness and pressure relief and the "roles" of different layers in a mattress in post #2 here and in post #4 here that may also be helpful in clarifying the difference between "support" and "pressure relief" and "feel" that may be useful as well.

For those who decide to take on the challenge then I would either use the specs (if they are available) of a mattress that you have tested and confirmed is a good match for you in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP as a reference point or blueprint and try and "match" every layer and component in your reference mattress as closely as possible or alternatively use a "bottom-up" approach (see post #2 here ).

Some of the better online options I'm aware of that ship mattresses and/or foam layers and components (memory foam, polyfoam, and latex) across Canada are also listed in post #21 here and I also added a few additional options to the list today as well.


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Mattress comfort layers - Memory foam 14 Jul 2019 15:13 #63

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Thanks for all the links, Sensei! I had to take a pause for an unrelated medical procedure, sigh, but I'm finally able to pick up the bed build again. And the foam core I ordered has arrived.

Definitely, I understand that it will be different and every little tweak feels different, but I see the recommendation to start by trying to approximate what you know you like, so trying to channel the Comforpedic Luxury Firm.

I think we're still hoping for more info on the "AirCool Memory Foam" from the Comforpedic? In the meantime, I see how I already have/can get 4 and 4.5 lb MF layers (albeit not knowing the ILD). But, I don't know how to approximate "1” Firm Comfort Foam." ??

In the meantime I'm starting with:
-comfort: 3 inches or so MF (trying the various combos I have in the 4-5 lb range, such as the 1 inch 4.5 lb from foamorder and 2 inch 5lb from MFS mentioned here previously)
-transition: 2 inch Dunlop latex or two 1 inch polyfoams labeled "16" or "23"
-core: 5 inch DuraFlex™ D30 Firm foam

So far, nothing quite right, but I've only just started again. But, I'm just also wondering if I should try to find another completely different feeling memory foam that "holds" better than the ones I have, which aren't that substantial feeling and compress so easily.

As always, thanks.

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Mattress comfort layers - Memory foam 18 Dec 2019 06:32 #64

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I am building a queen mattress from a 6 year old Beauty Rest with wrapped coils. I removed all the old cheap foam. I purchased a 19ILD Blended Talalay Latex topper(Arizona Mattress)and placed on top of the coils and put a mattress pad on it for now. I am a side sleeper with shoulder and hip pain and pressure that's why I went with the 19ILD that was suggested by Arizona mattress.
I love the topper I received from them, but now I could use a little more support/ firmness to my hip area. I seem to sink in too much and I only weigh 170 -175lbs
I was thinking another layer of Blended Talalay latex in Medium, I believe that is around 28 - 30 ILD and place that between the coils and the 19ILD comfort layer. What would you recommend and any suggestions would be appreciated and helpful.
2nd question: I have been shopping Sleep on Latex and they list there toppers as a Dunlop latex with a Talalay process to make it feel more in- between feeling, do you know / understand what they are talking about. I reached out to them and maybe you can explain this a little better. If I am getting the information correctly It sounds like it could be the product I am looking for over the Blended Talalay latex. Again what would be your suggestion and experience to the products that I have listed. I forgot to add.....that I purchased a 3" 19ILD Blended Talalay topper and was looking into adding a 2" or 3" Medium 28- 30ILD Dunlop or Blended Talalay for a support / firmness. What would you recommend?

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Mattress comfort layers - Memory foam 24 Dec 2019 14:40 #65

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Hey cmjubes,

Welcome to the TMU Forum and thanks for your questions :) .

I am building a queen mattress from a 6 year old Beauty Rest with wrapped coils. I removed all the old cheap foam. I purchased a 19ILD Blended Talalay Latex topper(Arizona Mattress)and placed on top of the coils and put a mattress pad on it for now. I am a side sleeper with shoulder and hip pain and pressure that's why I went with the 19ILD that was suggested by Arizona mattress.
I love the topper I received from them, but now I could use a little more support/ firmness to my hip area. I seem to sink in too much and I only weigh 170 -175lbs. I was thinking another layer of Blended Talalay latex in Medium, I believe that is around 28 - 30 ILD and place that between the coils and the 19ILD comfort layer. What would you recommend and any suggestions would be appreciated and helpful.


Congrats on your topper purchase from @ArizonaPremiumMattress, glad to hear you're happy with it. Just curious, did you check in with them regarding your comfort layer/ support questions?

2nd question: I have been shopping Sleep on Latex and they list there toppers as a Dunlop latex with a Talalay process to make it feel more in- between feeling, do you know / understand what they are talking about. I reached out to them and maybe you can explain this a little better. If I am getting the information correctly It sounds like it could be the product I am looking for over the Blended Talalay latex. Again what would be your suggestion and experience to the products that I have listed.


This question refers to @SleepOnLatex/ their Earthfoam natural latex foam production process, as they are a TMU Trusted Member, think it would be interesting to hear those details from them. BTW, are there any updates on your DIY mattress project?

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Mattress comfort layers - Memory foam 09 Jan 2020 20:19 #66

Since I’m not sure how to start a new thread I’ll ask this here..

With the rise of bed in the box companies some of them are marketing their memory foam as ones that don’t responded to heat but just to the pressure so no matter the temperature in the room it’s always a consistent feel, some are 4lb and seems of quality. Who makes these as 2” toppers? I much prefer the idea of memory foam that doesn’t respond to heat to keep the mattress as cool as possible. Also, how do those compare to the ones that respond to heat like Tempur-Pedic?

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