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Budget latex foam mattress choices 23 Apr 2013 21:02 #11

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Thank you! I suppose that makes sense. Lebeda has yet to provide any kind of reply but Restonic gave me this for their $1500 latex mattress:

The latex we utilize is of medium firmness --

A.) 22- 28 ILD firmness
B.) All Natural Latex
C.) The core is 5.5" that the industry normalizes at 6"
D) There are two inches of Latex on the surface laminated together and they are 22-28 as well....a medium


It actually looks like a decent deal for a product from a local store. Nonetheless, it's a bit out of reach price-wise. Jacob tells me a '6' would be comparable and meet my needs the best.

Speaking of which - my "budget" latex mattress shopping is no longer really that. I'm now considering the 12" Bamboo Bliss. Jacob tells me that I would feel the difference and it's a better mattress overall. I could see it lasting longer because of the use of Omalon foam and some compressed wool in the top layer. That combined with the bamboo rayon cover should make the mattress more breathable and temperature regulating as well.

The final deciding factor is that while the 12" has all the firmness levels available for exchange, the 10" only has '3' and '6'. Jacob graciously offered take some of the price edge off of the jump from the 10" to the 12" mattress.

From here comes the decision on a mattress protector. I hate the idea of buying a mattress with a breathable top and smothering it with the protector. I was looking at the Luna Premium ($40) but I've read about the St. Dormeir ($160).

I do wake up sweaty more often than not. I'm mostly attributing that to the fact that I'm currently sleeping on firm ~6.5" polyurethane foam over plywood. That's the pain-inducing bed the Department of Residence provides me with.

Is it worth the extra $120 for the St. Dormeir? Or should I keep my money and take the chance that the $40 protector will be breathable enough? I'm leaning towards shelling out for the St. Dormeir but every extra dollar spent at this point reduces how much I'll be able to spend on other apartment furnishings. I've saved up over the years though and I can afford it if I have to.

Michael

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Budget latex foam mattress choices 24 Apr 2013 11:28 #12

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Hi amd20x6,

Speaking of which - my "budget" latex mattress shopping is no longer really that. I'm now considering the 12" Bamboo Bliss. Jacob tells me that I would feel the difference and it's a better mattress overall. I could see it lasting longer because of the use of Omalon foam and some compressed wool in the top layer. That combined with the bamboo rayon cover should make the mattress more breathable and temperature regulating as well.


I would agree with this for all the reasons you "and Jacob" mentioned.

From here comes the decision on a mattress protector. I hate the idea of buying a mattress with a breathable top and smothering it with the protector. I was looking at the Luna Premium ($40) but I've read about the St. Dormeir ($160).

I do wake up sweaty more often than not. I'm mostly attributing that to the fact that I'm currently sleeping on firm ~6.5" polyurethane foam over plywood. That's the pain-inducing bed the Department of Residence provides me with.

Is it worth the extra $120 for the St. Dormeir? Or should I keep my money and take the chance that the $40 protector will be breathable enough? I'm leaning towards shelling out for the St. Dormeir but every extra dollar spent at this point reduces how much I'll be able to spend on other apartment furnishings. I've saved up over the years though and I can afford it if I have to.


Any questions about whether something is "worth it" really depends on person preferences and priorities and individual criteria or what I call your "personal value equation" but overall it would be "worth it" to me ... although not perhaps to someone else.

You can read more about the many different factors that can affect the temperature regulation of a mattress in post #2 here and in post #29 here and more about the different types of mattress protectors and the pros and cons of each in post #89 here .

If you tend to sleep warm ... then the Luna would have a "warming influence" while the St Dormeir would have a "cooling influence" but it would depend on how the combination of all the layers and bedding worked for you together and of course on budget which sometimes makes the best choices less attractive. For the small difference over the long term ... I would personally say that performance and quality of sleep would trump the small differences in price factored over the years of use.

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Budget latex foam mattress choices 28 Apr 2013 18:46 #13

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I ended up purchasing an Aloe Alexis in queen. I did further local testing and convinced myself that I wouldn't be 100% happy with only 3" of talalay latex. I was able to come up with the money partly by opting to go with the Luna over the St. Dormeir protector (at least for now).

Brooklyn Bedding just bumped up the price on the queen to $1399, by the way. I was able to get the price I would have paid a few days ago but I doubt they will do that for long.

I'm also getting 2x Luna pillow protectors , the Malouf frame , a clearance Duvet cover from Pacific Coast , a Malouf down alternative comforter , and a 400tc sheet set that was on clearance at Kohl's last week. I might throw a bed skirt into the mix too.

Thanks for all of your help! I'll report back in the future after I've received it and I'm comfortable sharing my opinions. :)

Edit: I'd also like to add that Brooklyn Bedding has been amazing throughout the decision process. They've proven to be very flexible and answer emails promptly- even at night on the weekends. It's been a very smooth experience so far.

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Budget latex foam mattress choices 28 Apr 2013 19:50 #14

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Hi amd20x6,

You certainly made some great choices and I personally would also lean towards two layers of latex over one if it was at all possible.

Thanks for the heads up about the price increase as well.

I'm looking forward to your feedback when you receive everything and have had the chance to sleep on your new "ensemble".

Most of all ... congratulations on your new mattress :)

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Budget latex foam mattress choices 29 Apr 2013 22:13 #15

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I was given the chance to buy a very nice platform bed for $75 that's already in the apartment I'm moving into. They just want it gone since it's so heavy to move.

Further examination revealed that it has a solid foundation. I read here that this is bad as it can/will cause mold problems. The Savvy Rest bed rug is supposed to alleviate this issue but its material, coir, is listed as an allergen on Wikipedia. My girlfriend's allergic to many things and even if I drilled holes in the foundation it would still not circulate out from underneath the bed.

It's unfortunate that I have to pass this up. But I'm grateful that you mentioned this issue Phoenix- I would have ended up with a brand new ruined mattress. Thanks again for the wealth of information you provide here!

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Budget latex foam mattress choices 29 Apr 2013 23:08 #16

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Hi amd20x6,

While I am not a fan of solid foundations unless it is a "necessary" choice that makes the tradeoff worth it such as those who want an adjustable bed, there are conflicting opinions about this issue and a solid foundation wouldn't "guarantee" mold or other issues connected to lack of ventilation. It would really depend on several variables coming together and on your "risk tolerance" for the possibility of mold, mildew, and dust mites. You can read a little more in post #10 here .

I think that allergies to coir would be more likely for those who are involved in its production which produces a large amount of dust which can produce nasal bronchial allergies or astha with longer term exposure (see this article ) but I tend to doubt that it would be likely to cause allergies with the product used in a mattress that had been cleaned and rubberized ... although it's of course possible that an allergy could occur. I would also think that it could help one of the more common allergies which is to dust mites because the greater ventilation could help reduce dust mite populations.

I just thought I would put the issues in some perspective so that it was more clear that it isn't really a
"black and white" issue but more a matter of where in a range of risk you may be and that there is no real consensus among "experts" (although I think the majority would lean towards greater ventilation when possible).

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Budget latex foam mattress choices 08 May 2013 21:10 #17

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Thanks again! I made the choice to go with the Malouf foundation. I didn't want to take the risk with the solid foundation and coir. The person in question has had weekly allergy shots for 13 years and carries two epipens and inhalers.

The mattress arrived Monday but I haven't had a chance to sleep a full night on it yet. I took a 20 minute nap earlier today and the Aloe Alexis felt amazing. After a few minutes I had to remind myself that I was in fact on a mattress and not floating in perfect suspension. I was initially worried after unpacking it on Monday as it felt very soft but it has become firmer since then.

The fit and finish is *great* and it looks impressive. A skeptical friend helped unpack it and quickly reversed his opinion after watching it inflate and learning about the 120 day trial period.

Interestingly enough, I received two shredded memory foam pillows instead of latex. The box was labeled "Shredded Talalay Latex Pillow - Queen - QTY-2" as expected but the law labels and contents say/show otherwise. They're not what I was expecting and I haven't had a chance to really decide if I'm going to like them yet. My first impression is that latex would probably be better for me. I'll also have to see if my girlfriend's sensitive to them- she doesn't like memory foam to begin with. I've notified Brooklyn Bedding of the mixup so they can check their inventory. I don't know how much I can complain, they were a bonus- although it was one that strongly factored into my purchasing decision.

Edit: The mattress I purchased is a '6'.

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Budget latex foam mattress choices 08 May 2013 23:35 #18

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Hi amd20x6,

I've notified Brooklyn Bedding of the mixup so they can check their inventory. I don't know how much I can complain, they were a bonus- although it was one that strongly factored into my purchasing decision.


Bonus or not I'm sure they will make things right and they probably appreciate you letting them know that they shipped out the memory foam pillow instead of the latex.

Thanks for the preliminary feedback as well :)

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Budget latex foam mattress choices 09 May 2013 12:26 #19

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The mattress arrived Monday but I haven't had a chance to sleep a full night on it yet. I took a 20 minute nap earlier today and the Aloe Alexis felt amazing. After a few minutes I had to remind myself that I was in fact on a mattress and not floating in perfect suspension. I was initially worried after unpacking it on Monday as it felt very soft but it has become firmer since then.

The fit and finish is *great* and it looks impressive. A skeptical friend helped unpack it and quickly reversed his opinion after watching it inflate and learning about the 120 day trial period.


Edit: The mattress I purchased is a '6'.


Soooooo jealous. :D. I eagerly await your review whenever you feel it appropriate. : ).

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Budget latex foam mattress choices 02 Dec 2013 22:25 #20

Hi amd20x6

I'm interested to hear your experience with the mattress protector. I just bought a latex mattress from BB (hasn't arrived yet) and I too tend to sleep warm and sweat quite a bit. I noticed you purchased the Luna mattress protector. Are you happy with it? If you could do it over again, would you buy that or go with the St Dormeir?

Thanks
Andy

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