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how is this for a topper idea ? 12 Apr 2013 06:40 #1

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so since wool is expensive and can be ruined by cleaning ( but absorbs moisture well ) and microfiber type toppers are cheap, soft and easy to clean ( but don't absorb moisture ??? ) then:

how about putting a microfiber type ( down alternative ) topper on top of a wool topper and machine washing the microfiber one regularly but never washing the wool topper underneath it ? or at least washing the wool topper very rarely.

or is it plain stupid to put a biocompatible material like wool underneath and plastic next to your body ?

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how is this for a topper idea ? 12 Apr 2013 16:33 #2

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Hi g1981c,

If It was me ... I would probably add a stretch knit cotton mattress protector (not another topper) such as the ones mentioned here on top of the wool mattress protector. This could be washed and would be like an extra sheet. I personally wouldn't use a down alternative (polyester) topper over a wool topper which would lose much of the benefits of sleeping on wool but of course each person may have different preferences or prefer different combinations.

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how is this for a topper idea ? 12 Apr 2013 19:14 #3

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i like your idea ! but $150 - 230 for a cotton cover that has no thickness ? snugfleece offers an inch and a half of wool for $260 and these people want $230 for just a cotton cover that has similar construction to a regular pair of socks ?

what am i missing here ?

and what exactly does organic cotton mean ? is it organic in the sense that they didn't use pesticides when growing it or organic in the sense that they didn't soak the cotton in chemicals after it was picked ? if it is the first then i would rather put my money towards organic food, but if it's the second then i guess it may be worth the extra money.

basically i don't think this thing is thick enough to provide adequate protection against body oils and especially dead skin cells that are constantly shed - is it ? as i said i think the idea of a cotton pad over wool is great, but i would like the cotton pad itself to weigh something like 10 pounds.

if they insist on making it as thin as a regular pair of cotton socks then it should cost 50 bucks, not 150 or 250. for god's sake - you can buy an entire LATEX topper WITH COVER for $230 from Brookly Bedding and these people want $230 for just the cover !

again - what am i missing here ?

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how is this for a topper idea ? 12 Apr 2013 19:42 #4

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also, what's the point in such a stretchable cover if it will be on top of a wool topper that isn't nearly as stretchable ?

perhaps something like this would be better: www.amazon.com/Organic-Cotton-Mattress-With-Filling/dp/B002EX06MS/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

at least it mentions filling, while the ones you linked appear to be just a single layer of fabric ? or am i wrong ?

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how is this for a topper idea ? 12 Apr 2013 23:47 #5

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Hi g1981c,

I would suggest talking to the people who make the products you are mentioning ... see what they have to say ... and then decide on which is the best fit for your personal value equation. They are the best source of knowledge about the specific products they make.

The ultimate answer to your questions are fairly simple ... higher quality materials, better or more costly manufacturing methods, or organic materials are more costly than the cheaper versions or different types of products that are often represented as being "the same" when they are not.

If you don't see the value of a cover that conforms better to the layers underneath it (wool or otherwise) ... then I would just purchase one that wasn't and learn from your positive or negative experience. To me ... better quality and performance is worth paying for but not everyone will have the same priorities or thoughts.

The pad you linked is cotton batting which is a great material but is not the same as stretch knit cotton and will have a greater effect on the toppers or mattress layers below it. If that's OK with you then by all means I would purchase it. It's a mattrerss pad (thicker) not a mattress protector designed to minimize the effect on the layers below it.

You can read more about organic certifications and claims on the USDA site here .

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how is this for a topper idea ? 13 Apr 2013 01:42 #6

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fine, but how much does that stretch knit cover you like weigh ? if it's over 4 pounds it might be worth considering.

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how is this for a topper idea ? 13 Apr 2013 01:48 #7

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Hi g1981c,

You could call them to find out but I can't imagine that any of the ones I would choose if I was choosing that type of protector would weigh that much. To me that high a weight would be a negative.

But of course each of us is different and if weight is the most important part of your value equation then it would be a simple matter of choosing the one that weighs the most and costs the least per oz..

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how is this for a topper idea ? 13 Apr 2013 18:40 #8

"and what exactly does organic cotton mean ? is it organic in the sense that they didn't use pesticides when growing it or organic in the sense that they didn't soak the cotton in chemicals after it was picked ? if it is the first then i would rather put my money towards organic food, but if it's the second then i guess it may be worth the extra money."

Organic cotton is grown without synthetic fertilizer or the use of pesticides. The benefit is to the planet and its ecosystems, not necessarily to the end user. If you do an online search you will can find out about the ecological benefits to organic farming. Organic products do cost more, so we all have to figure out how much of a premium we are willing to pay to support organic agriculture. I am pretty sure that the organic cotton would not be treated with chemicals. Good question Lew

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how is this for a topper idea ? 14 Apr 2013 01:59 #9

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To me that high a weight would be a negative.


you're not concerned with protecting the wool underneath from the need to wash it ?

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how is this for a topper idea ? 14 Apr 2013 02:07 #10

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Hi g1981c,

A good stretch knit cotton protector would be fine to protect the wool topper from body oils and soiling (although it's not waterproof) and could be washed like a sheet and protect the wool topper well. A stretchy wool/cotton protector would have the additional benefit of being water resistant (not waterproof) although this may not be that important and may affect the feel of the layers under it a little more because it isn't as stretchy and soft as the cotton knit.

I personally would be quite comfortable with these along with the self cleansing properties of the wool which are activated by putting it in the sun from time to time and very occasional hand washing if necessary.

I personally wouldn't use a thicker cotton batting layer over a wool topper because it would interfere too much with the feel and properties of the wool but these would only be my own preferences and yours may be different.

I would encourage you to have a few conversations with the people that make wool toppers and you will find them to be very helpful and educational if you really want to learn from the "wool experts"

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