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Re: direct mattress makers in northern Virginia? 26 Jul 2012 17:01 #11

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Hi Phoenix: Are there any updates to the original list in this post? We are in Northern VA and are looking to replace a 7 year old mattress, and are looking very seriously at latex.
We visited American Foam Center last week (didn't speak to Robert, but spoke with another very knowledgeable and helpful employee), but I didn't know enough to ask about what the layers were in the Dunlop and Talalay mattresses we tried out. Having now read the overviews on the site, I feel a little better equipped to test and ask questions. I do like the idea of going right to the person who is going to assemble my mattress.

We could also get to the Savvy Rest location in Vienna without much difficulty.

I'm 6'1 and and about 200 lbs and my wife is 5'6 and 140. I am a predominately back sleeper but some times on my side, whereas my wife is mostly on her side and sometimes on her back. Just trying to get in the right ballpark in terms of what we could look for and where we can look for it.

Thanks!! This is a great site, and really saved us from making a bad purchase at a chain.
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Re: direct mattress makers in northern Virginia? 26 Jul 2012 20:18 #12

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Hi jpwst,

Hi Phoenix: Are there any updates to the original list in this post? We are in Northern VA and are looking to replace a 7 year old mattress, and are looking very seriously at latex.


Not at this point. American Foam Center was the most recent addition to the list and I was quite happy to find a good addition and someone who was knowledgeable about foam and mattress components.

If you do come across an outlet that isn't on the list though and you want some feedback ... feel free to ask.

Savvy Rest has some very high quality mattresses that are great for "testing" various combinations of latex but as you probably know they are not so great value when compared to some of the online manufacturer members here that offer very similar mattresses that use the same materials at prices that are significantly lower.

There are some height/weight guidelines here and some sleeping position guidelines here but personal testing is much more accurate than more "generic" guidelines (what I call "theory at a distance") that are based more on averages and can't really take into account the many differences in body types, sleeping positions, sensitivities, and preferences even in people that are otherwise similar in height and weight. They also don't take into account the many possible differences in mattress construction besides just the foam types and layering so these are more for general guidance than a specific "recommendation" for any particular person.

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Re: direct mattress makers in northern Virginia? 30 Jan 2013 19:48 #13

New Mattress Underground reader here.

While I digest all the useful information on this site, I figure I would contribute by saying that the store Mattress Fame in Gaithersburg, MD is no longer there. The website is still up, but the phone number goes nowhere and there is a 7-Eleven in its place now.

Also, none of the HealthyBacks in the MD area have any Pure Latex Bliss in a firm to try out, but they are currently having a 30% off their floor models if that interests anyone.

Alright, back to researching the perfect mattress.

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Re: direct mattress makers in northern Virginia? 30 Jan 2013 22:51 #14

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Hi jal297,

While I digest all the useful information on this site, I figure I would contribute by saying that the store Mattress Fame in Gaithersburg, MD is no longer there. The website is still up, but the phone number goes nowhere and there is a 7-Eleven in its place now.


I think one of the challenges of a site like this is to keep up with all the changes in all the markets around the country and I sure do appreciate the members here adding to the information base :)

I called Mattress Fame just to make sure that they were gone and I actually reached them. They told me that they have moved. and have a new address and phone number (although the old one still works as well). Their new address is now on their website . Perhaps it just took a while to propagate.

Also, none of the HealthyBacks in the MD area have any Pure Latex Bliss in a firm to try out, but they are currently having a 30% off their floor models if that interests anyone.


I appreciate this information as well. The Serenity that they list on their site is the firmest of the PLB options but I know that not every Healthy Back store carries all the models that they have on their site. One of them in Lexington for example is apparently owned by Tempurpedic and only carries their mattresses and none of the other manufacturers at all.
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Thanks again for the feedback and I'm looking forward to hearing about what "your perfect mattress" ends up being :)

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Re: direct mattress makers in northern Virginia? 10 Feb 2013 20:04 #15

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I'll be visiting some of the suggested retail sites in the DC metro area in the coming week, and will try to share my impressions in the forum afterwards. I do like to reward a firm that goes to the trouble and expense of maintaining a "bricks-and-mortar" presence with my business if I can, especially if I take up their time to demo products and test mattress options. I only wish their price differential, as compared to online and mail-order outlets, could be a little less disparate. In your guide to buying, you stress the importance of "try before you buy," but if online distribution drives all the quality local retail outlets out of business, we'll be stuck with nothing but the schlocky national chains, and how then will we ever be able to really test any high-quality mattress options, unless we happen to live near one of the handful of custom manufacturers? I'll pay a reasonable premium for service and a meaningful warranty, especially for a quality product; of course, the trick is in figuring out what is "reasonable."

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Re: direct mattress makers in northern Virginia? 10 Feb 2013 21:25 #16

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Hi lfranks,

I'll be visiting some of the suggested retail sites in the DC metro area in the coming week, and will try to share my impressions in the forum afterwards.


That would be great ... thank you. A few others have done the same and this would be very helpful to many others.

I do like to reward a firm that goes to the trouble and expense of maintaining a "bricks-and-mortar" presence with my business if I can, especially if I take up their time to demo products and test mattress options. I only wish their price differential, as compared to online and mail-order outlets, could be a little less disparate. In your guide to buying, you stress the importance of "try before you buy," but if online distribution drives all the quality local retail outlets out of business, we'll be stuck with nothing but the schlocky national chains, and how then will we ever be able to really test any high-quality mattress options, unless we happen to live near one of the handful of custom manufacturers? I'll pay a reasonable premium for service and a meaningful warranty, especially for a quality product; of course, the trick is in figuring out what is "reasonable."


I completely agree with your sentiments here and I also believe that a local choice provides a "value premium" compared to an online purchase. I tend to use a difference of about 20% or so as a guideline for what I would consider to be "equivalent value" all other things being equal but of course each person may have their own ideas and a different "risk tolerance" and have a different "value equation".

There are also many local options (both retailers and manufacturers) that provide great local value and compete very well and even thrive with online competition so it's not likely to ever happen that online merchants will ever drive these out of business. IMO ... online outlets that provide good quality, service and value keep local merchants competitive and help them to do more of what they do best. It''s also true the other way around because local merchants and manufacturers can also provide options service and guidance that are not possible with online choices. They are just different channels and each can have great "value". It's also true that there are many local options that don't provide the kind of value that they could and the same is true of many online merchants as well. They are all part of a larger market and each has advantages and disadvantages that will appeal to different groups of people (there is more in this thread ).

As you mention ... the key is being able to define "reasonable" and for each person to know how to define their own "personal value equation" . This involves consumers that are more educated, know which retailers and manufacturers to ignore, and which ones to focus on along with manufacturers and retailers that offer exceptional quality, value and service that is available in every area of the country no matter how they may choose to sell their mattresses. There is an important place for both options and one will never replace the other IMO.

More than anything ... they both keep each other "honest" and truly competitive :)

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Re: direct mattress makers in northern Virginia? 21 May 2013 10:12 #17

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Hi jal297,

While I digest all the useful information on this site, I figure I would contribute by saying that the store Mattress Fame in Gaithersburg, MD is no longer there. The website is still up, but the phone number goes nowhere and there is a 7-Eleven in its place now.


I think one of the challenges of a site like this is to keep up with all the changes in all the markets around the country and I sure do appreciate the members here adding to the information base :)

I called Mattress Fame just to make sure that they were gone and I actually reached them. They told me that they have moved. and have a new address and phone number (although the old one still works as well). Their new address is now on their website . Perhaps it just took a while to propagate.


I recently went to the Mattress Fame Outlet in Gaithersburg. I wasn't impressed. I am not one to let appearances dictate my perception of a store, however, both my wife and i left there a little sketched out and itchy (no bugs found). Just did not feel like a clean store and the salesman was constantly trying to lower the price to make a sale. He did not have information or knowledge of the mattress components either.

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Re: direct mattress makers in northern Virginia? 21 May 2013 11:18 #18

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Hi brettwasbtd,

Thanks for the feedback :)

I know when I first called them they were "suspicious" about the nature of my questions (because the types of questions I usually ask aren't the "norm" for most retailers") and told me they would call back on several occasions but never did. Once I was able to talk with someone there though that realized why I was calling they "warmed up" and were more open about their mattresses. I was talking with "John" and he told me that to the degree that their manufacturers supplied the information they would be happy to provide it to their customers.

Hopefully you were unfortunate and were talking to a salesperson that is not typical there but if this is their "norm" and the information that you need to make informed decisions isn't available at all (either from the salesperson or their boss) then for me that would certainly exclude them from consideration unless I was able to find the information I needed about a specific mattress I was considering and the mattress was so attractive in terms of PPP (Pressure relief, Posture and alignment, and Personal preferences) and price that it justified the effort (and often frustration) of doing what the retailer should be doing for their customers and finding out the information I needed on my own.

I haven't seen their store (either the new one or the old one) because I am nowhere near VA but even though I don't pay a lot of attention to a fancy showroom (which often is an indication of higher prices) ... I would at least expect it to be clean.

Thanks again for the feedback ... I appreciate it.

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Re: direct mattress makers in northern Virginia? 21 May 2013 20:19 #19

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I just wanted to chime in with my 2 cents.

I live very close to Mattress Fame and I can certainly echo brettwasbtd's comments. The store is in poor condition and the sales staff is clueless.

I've been there on two occasions to check out the Pure Latex Bliss line.

The first visit ended with the salesman offering me a PLB 11" hybrid model, he did not know which model it was but I later inferred it had to be the Vitality. The salesman also tried to play down the "hybrid" aspect of the bed by intimating that it was all latex with just a bit of poly foam for support. The price on the "showroom" floor was $3500. As we began to leave the price was quickly dropped twice to "special deal" $2499. I later discovered that this is very close to MSRP.

My second visit was several weeks later with the hope of finding a better informed salesman. No dice. This time the salesman was a young man who knew next to nothing about their product. He was dressed suspiciously casual, in shorts I believe. He was pleasant enough and tried in vain to call someone who he said would have answers. After 15 minutes I gave up.

BTW - I was able to get someone from Pure Latex Bliss to tell me that the hybrid foam in these models have a 10% latex component. No info was available on the ILD of this foam however. Oddly enough they responded to my e-mail inquiry by requesting that I call them back (on a Saturday to boot). It seems like they really don't want to go on record with some of these specs.

Mike

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Re: direct mattress makers in northern Virginia? 24 May 2013 14:20 #20

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Hi gfandac,

There's not a lot in the way of factory direct mattress manufacturers in the Washington, DC area (which I always find odd). There are however a few good choices and some which may provide "better than average" value or are better places to test mattresses as a guideline for an online purchase.

americanfoamcenter.com/ Merrifield, VA. They are a foam outlet but are also a local factory direct mattress manufacturer. I talked with Robert (who is the owner) and was very impressed. It's clear that he "knows his stuff" about foam. He has been making mattresses for 50 years and is the kind of person that will give you accurate information. He also has a "showroom" (of sorts) where different materials and layers can be tested. He uses high quality materials like Latex (Dunlop and Talalay), high quality polyfoam up to 2.8 lbs (true HR foam) and memory foam from a quality American supplier. They are a high quality and good value choice, especially for the area, and I would certainly suggest that anyone in the DC area include them in their research. Make sure you call first because Robert is the person there with the knowledge.

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Just an FYI, I visited American Foam Center today. The employee was very helpful and knowledgeable. I don't believe their prices are competitive with what you might find at some of the "member" companies on this site, however. The salesman told me that as a 150 pound guy, I shouldn't really worry about a latex beyond the standard 3 inches with a HD foam core.

Their materials are all good though. 5 lb memory foam, over 2 lb (can't remember exactly) foam core, and he told me right off the bat I could save ~$200 by choosing dunlop over talalay, but he recommended the latter. He actually told me to steer away from memory foam unless I was really passionate about it, because they get complaints about the heat. For a 6" foam core and 3" of latex, the price was around $1,300 for a King. The Cotton Camilla on the BB site is $900 for the same thing. They do have a 30 day no questions asked return policy.

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