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Trustworthy Local Places to scope out in Fresno, CA? 09 Jun 2012 04:20 #1

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Hello all,

Phoenix, love the site and appreciate both the depth and breadth of knowledge, research, and time you have dedicated to helping out the common person to making a well informed mattress purchase. Was wondering if you have heard of any great places to look at locally in Fresno, CA. I've asked around and got a couple of recommendations for a place called "A Better Bed" who claims to make fully custom beds. While thats great and I can follow the tips suggested on this site I was wondering if those who work, live, and breath mattress manufacturing and research have any suggestions for my local area. Of course I have access to the national chains and regional chains but I am really trying to avoid those and stick with local or preferred manufacturing company's.

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Re: Trustworthy Local Places to scope out in Fresno, CA? 09 Jun 2012 16:37 #2

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Hi mmeadows24,

There are a lot of "mom and pop" manufacturers in Fresno and in talking with most of them ... they focus on "cheap" mattresses and know little about the materials they use. There are very few of them that have inspired any confidence in me and I would seriously hesitate to buy from most of them. It's hard to believe that there are so many people who make mattresses in the area that know so little. When you ask them what type of mattresses they make they will say things like 8" to 14" or other equally meaningless descriptions.

www.abetterbed.com/ in Fresno is an exception to this. When I talked with Bill the owner I was expecting more of the same but was surprised to find he wasn't. While he is certainly a "schmoozer" ... if you ask more specific questions you will find out that he is very knowledgeable in mattress construction and materials and genuinely knows his stuff. He can make mattresses using most materials and uses talalay latex, 5 lb memory foam, and higher quality polyfoam (from 1.5 lb in quilting layers all the way up to 3 lb HR poly). He has also downsized all his operations so that all the value he makes can go into his mattresses rather than business expenses. While I haven't done extensive research into all the options in the Fresno area (and I'll add more to this thread as I come across them) ... at this point A Better Bed would be my first choice.

www.manta.com/c/mm2vp5c/visalia-mattress-factory is a factory direct manufacturer in Visalia. In the one brief conversation I had with him some time ago he seemed suspicious about why I was asking him questions about the mattresses he made and when I told him what I was doing he said "I have a son who does that". That was the extent of our conversation (we didn't connect since) so I have no idea what he makes. There is more feedback about them in post #10 here which unfortunately also wasn't the best experience.

There is a wholesale manufacturer there called Pleasant Mattress (Cannon Sleep Products) but they sell through retail stores. They may also have some better quality and value mattresses compared to larger brands but you would need to call them to find out which stores sell them in the area.

Some local retailers that may have some "possibilities" but would need more research about their level of transparency, service, and knowledge (and I've included the brands they carry that may have some better than average value) includes ...

www.mattressexpofresno.com/ Fresno, CA Englander (with some latex), Cannon

www.morfurniture.com/ Retailer in Fresno and Bakersfield (and other locations). Lumina, Sherwood (same company).

lifestylefurniturehomestore.com/ Retailer in Fresno. Lady Americana.

There are also some options that are a little bit further away in the Bakersfield area listed in post #3 here and in the Modesto area in post #7 here and in the San Jose area in post #2 here that may also be worth a phone call and/or a visit if you are OK with a longer drive.

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Re: Trustworthy Local Places to scope out in Fresno, CA? 17 Jun 2012 22:51 #3

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Thx Phoenix for the quick response. I think for the time being I might go with an Ultimate Dreams mattress given what I've read and amount I'm looking to spend at this moment.

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Re: Trustworthy Local Places to scope out in Fresno, CA? 18 Jun 2012 03:28 #4

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Hi mmeadows24,

The Ultimate dreams is certainly a good choice :)

Did you get a chance to visit A Better Bed?

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Re: Trustworthy Local Places to scope out in Fresno, CA? 19 Aug 2012 22:21 #5

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Phoenix,

I didn't talk to them extensively but the rough quote if I was going with a custom bed was more than what I wanted to do. In fairness I wanted a full latex if I was going custom but I dont have the money and I figured I'd get the Ultimate Dreams instead as I have a large amazon gift card and I'd use this bed for two years then get a full latex core mattress after that.

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Re: Trustworthy Local Places to scope out in Fresno, CA? 20 Aug 2012 06:45 #6

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Hi mmeadows24,

That makes sense to me.

The only "down side" I can see is that the Ultimate Dreams will last you a lot longer than 2 years and you may decide that you want to keep it a little longer than that :)

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Re: Trustworthy Local Places to scope out in Fresno, CA? 06 Nov 2012 03:46 #7

Hi Phoenix,
I've been researching mattresses on your site and felt pretty confident when I went out shopping recently (Thank you!) I visited A Better Bed weekend before last and tried a few configurarations. Bill is a character and definitely a schmoozer as you said. But, he does know his mattresses.

I was confused by the Dunlopillo, which Bill told me was talalay latex, but I have since found the info on your mattress forum that that is correct. I tried a hybrid latex innerspring, but I am too light for that bed. It is reinforced in the hip region so it is convex in profile. So I tried some with latex cores. What I liked was two 24 ILD 3" layers on top of a 28 ILD support core. Each layer is encased in a thin cotton cover, then in a thick quilted zippered cover. So it is reversible and adjustable. Bill claims a 'lifetime' warrantee and says he will exchange layers or repair the mattress if needed. There was a very thin layer of foam he quilts into the cover, that's the only layer I wasn't sure was latex. Also, he uses cotton and fiberglass for the fire retardant layer, which I may seek to get a Rx to leave out. $1800 for a queen, plus a delivery fee of $50. Includes, set up and taking away old mattress.

I also visited a Mattress Land in Visalia. I like,the Pure LatexBliss Pamper with a 2" fast response topper, but at $2400 for a queen, on sale, I think I have to pass. This is also an one-sided bed. This is the only latex bed brand (two other models, I think) carried by this store, and it is a recent addition. The store manager, Glen, was very good. He did not know all the answers to my questions (still not sure of the ILD in the topper or bed layers), but did make an effort to get answers for me. Free delivery, set up and take away old set.

I'd be curious to hear if anyone has experience in Fresno-Clovis or Visalia, and if there are other places worth trying. It seems like A better Bed has the better value so far.

Thanks,
G

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Re: Trustworthy Local Places to scope out in Fresno, CA? 06 Nov 2012 16:17 #8

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Hi G-cal,

Just for reference, The Pure Latex Bliss has 2" of Fast Response Talalay GL in the top layer which comes in 15, 21, and 27 ILD. My guess is that they use 21 ILD which is the closest to the 19 ILD that the old model used to have. The base layer was listed in many places as 40 ILD and I would also guess that the new version is the same.

The mattress your are describing at A Better Bed sounds to me like very good quality and value. I don't have any direct experience with the other options listed in the Fresno area but based on the research I have been able to do from a distance (which included a couple dozen retailers in the area) they are certainly among the best local value available IMO.

Did you have a chance to talk with Visalia Mattress Factory?

Mattressland doesn't have the Pure Latex Bliss listed on their site (although they are listed on the PLB retailer search ) so I'm grateful that you mentioned they carry them and I've added them to the Fresno list as a possibility ... thank you :)

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Re: Trustworthy Local Places to scope out in Fresno, CA? 07 Nov 2012 00:20 #9

Hi G-cal,

Did you have a chance to talk with Visalia Mattress Factory?

Not yet. That would be a logical last check before making my decision. G

Mattressland doesn't have the Pure Latex Bliss listed on their site (although they are listed on the PLB retailer search ) so I'm grateful that you mentioned they carry them and I've added them to the Fresno list as a possibility ... thank you :)

Glad I could add to your trove of info! :) G

Phoenix

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Re: Trustworthy Local Places to scope out in Fresno, CA? 13 Nov 2012 02:52 #10

Went to Visalia Mattress Factory today. Very disappointing. I had called twice before coming in and he said he had latex beds...he had one and said he sold it today between the time I called and the time I came in, which was several hours. :S

He sells natures spa beds, and they are not fully latex. I brought home a diagram of an Oasis:

Natural FR rayon fiber
Nat wool fiber
1" nat talalay 17 ILD
2" nat talalay 22 ILD
HD support foam
CertiPUR-US Air Core
HD performance foam
4" or 9" wood foundation
$1800 for a queen set, $1600 w/out the foundation.

The foam is soy-based. He says that using the foam in place of latex makes the bed lighter, which does make sense, but I did not want any synthetic foam.. It is single-sided, again, not what I wanted. Are these foams actually less toxic to make or use?

I've buried the lead, but this is my pressing question: He claimed that not bonding the latex layers of the bed would make it shift, buckle or sag, but this did not make sense to me. A Better Bed does not bond the layers, they are encased in cotton covers, so I'm wondering if there is any truth to the claim that they will shift or sag. I liked this because of the ease with which we could change, replace, or flip a layer.

Thanks,
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