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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 07 Jan 2012 18:50 #211

Do you know anything about the Kingsdown latex mattresses? I went to Sleep Country (biggest mattress retailer in Canada) today and they have stopped selling latex beds. I thought that was unusual. The salesman told me they were just a fad! I also went to a company called Mattress Mattress, not sure if you are familiar with them. He was pretty excited that the competition had stopped selling latex, although he couldn't believe it. He said that latex/foam is the way of the future and over half of their beds are latex or memory foam. In any case, my husband didn't like the icomfort but he was quite fond of a bed they called the Kingsdown Vivarri. I guess it is exclusive to this company. Not sure if other businesses sell it under a different name or not. I can't remember the exact details of the layers but it sounded like all the layers were very high quality talalay latex with a 6 inch core and a couple of other 2" in layers of talalay and some HD foam. 11 inches altogether with foam around the edges for support. The only problem is the price. $3500 for just the king mattress!! I could pay that but I don't really want to. Your thoughts? I can go back to the store and get the info on the exact layering if you wish. They did also have a cut out sample of the mattress.

I will give the other guys in Calgary a call in the meantime.

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 07 Jan 2012 20:08 #212

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Hi CindyBearcat,

As far as money, we are OK with paying extra for comfort and quality but it is hard to get facts from stores. We live in Cincinnati, OH and Mattress Firm is all I can think to go for the foam. Would you recommend the iComfort or Novaform at Costco, or is there something else we should look at?


I personally wouldn't recommend either as being particularly good value. Some guidelines that may be helpful in eliminating most of the worse choices in your mattress search are here . As you can see I would avoid all major brands and chain stores.

Some of your better choices in and around Cincinnati (50 miles) include some good factory direct manufacturers. Some of these are a repeat of the thread mentioned by Matt (thanks :)) but has a few other options because I centered the search around Cincinnati rather than Yellow Springs.

www.sleeptitemattressfactory.com/ Franklin, OH Local factory direct manufacturer who make a range of latex, memory foam, and innerspring mattresses.

www.originalmattress.com/locations Florence, Cold Spring, KY. Regional factory direct manufacturer who also make a range of latex, memory foam, and innerspring mattresses.

denvermattress.furniturerow.com/dmc/ Florence, KY. Regional factory direct manufacturer. They also make a range of latex and innerspring mattresses.

designsleep.com/mattresses/7-zone-natural-latex/ Yellow Springs, OH Retail direct outlet for Berkeley Ergonomics. I think highly of their knowledge and service. They carry a range of latex, latex/innerspring, and latex/microcoil mattresses.

www.bowlesmattress.com/ Regional factory direct manufacturer that makes their own and Lady Americana mattresses with many outlets throughout KY and other states. The closest stores are listed on their google map here.
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marksmattress.com/ Richmond, IN. Carries their own line of private label memory foam and latex mattresses called Sleep Natural that may include some better quality/value options. I would avoid the major brand and liquidation mattresses that they also carry.

www.ikea.com/us/en/ West Chester, OH Sells a Dunlop latex mattress using 85% natural Dunlop and an innerspring with the same material on top. See post #3 here for some of the other mattresses they carry. The Dunlop core could be a good option to add a talalay latex topper on top.

These would certainly give you better choices and better value than the major brands and the chain stores (like mattress firm) that are available in your area.

Hope this helps.

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 07 Jan 2012 23:54 #213

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Thank you Matt and Phoenix.

Original Mattress Factory is definitely a place we are familiar with and have looked on their website. I just did not know the quality of their memory foam mattresses. We will check them out and ask questions about the quality based off topics I have read from your posts.

Thanks again!

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 09 Jan 2012 10:57 #214

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Glad I found this site.

Phoenix, also my college mascot. I was hoping for some help. As with many others on this site, my wife 5'3 and I 6'4 have been looking at new mattresses lately, the Icomfort brand included. Local Mattress king store has a 'sale' on these and they've been reduced a bit but are still quite expensive at $1299 up to $2599.

We live in the Nashville, TN area. Do you know of any local yokal or factory direct stores around us that we can research?

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 09 Jan 2012 19:02 #215

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Phoenix,

I can get a natura crown bed for 2200 and it normally retails for $3700. I was wondering what your opinion would be ingesting this as to get it factory made would be 2000 from one of the people on the list. If you could let me know that would be great. Thanks

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 10 Jan 2012 01:45 #216

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Hi Lankynonyankee,

Nashville isn't the best area in terms of local factory direct manufacturers but there are still some better choices in the general area. Post #7 here includes the better options that I am aware of.

I'm not sure what size you're looking at for the price reference ... but even at a small discount I wouldn't consider the iComfort to be very good value ... even though it is very popular (there are a lot of people who are buying them based on their "showroom feel" rather than on the quality of materials or the value of the mattress).

Hope this helps

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 10 Jan 2012 01:59 #217

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Hi Shari,

Kingsdown is one of the larger national brands and are not particularly good value IMO. They certainly don't compete well with most local manufacturers such as the two in Calgary. It's really not possible to know anything about the quality or value of a mattress without knowing the layers that are in it and many manufacturers make very minor changes in their models and then change the names in order to make meaningful comparisons very difficult. I would doubt that the Kingsdown is all latex and the odds are very good that there is at least some polyfoam in the comfort layers and/or the support layers. HD foam for example is polyfoam and could be either the material they use in the 6" support core or it could be a layer of polyfoam above the latex. If you check the law tag you can find out for sure as it will tell you the percentage of each material even though it won't tell you the thickness of the layers or where in the mattress they are. Even if it is was high quality mattress though and was all latex ... the value is still not good and there are many mattresses that are all latex at lower cost.

The person who told you that latex is a fad is very funny and clearly knows little about the industry or about foam. Latex is the fastest growing part of the specialty sleep market and Talalay latex has been around for over 60 years and Dunlop even longer (longer than either polyfoam or memory foam). That's some fad :)

In any case I would avoid any chain stores or national brands as they just don't compete with smaller factory direct outlets in terms of the quality of materials or value. They may be good as a reference point for comparison purposes but they are not the best place to spend much of your time ... and make sure you check the law tags if you are considering any "latex" mattress!

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 10 Jan 2012 02:16 #218

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Hi 22bmarsh,

The Natura Crown certainly uses good quality materials and the price is much better than it normally sells for but there are some things that I believe are much more important than price or even quality.

What I would consider first is ... does it provide you with the pressure relief you need? Next I would make sure that it gives you good alignment in all your sleeping positions. Without a "yes" to both of these ... no mattress is worth buying no matter what its price or quality. After that is the consideration of your preferences. Do you like how it feels, are you comfortable with the amount of wool in the quilting, and does it provide the other preferences that are important to you.

Without knowing the construction and specs of the mattress you are comparing it to, it's impossible to know how it compares in terms of value but I personally would put a premium on buying a mattress that I have actually tested and that I know is exactly what I want over a mattress that I hadn't. When that premium is too big though ... then an online purchase would of course be much more attractive. If you have actually tested both mattresses and they are both close to "perfect", then I would take a look at which had the better value in terms of the materials that were in them and which provided the better after sales options if this was an important consideration for you (such as layer adjustments or exchanges if necessary).

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 10 Jan 2012 02:53 #219

Thanks. We made a trip down to Halstead in Calgary and decided to go with one of their all natural latex mattresses. We customized each side to our own preference. My husband weighs about 80 pounds more than I do so he needed a little more support. He likes medium support and I like soft so it will work well for both of us. It was still quite pricey ($2600, but almost $1000 less than the Kingsdown). I am hoping it will be worth every penny. Can't wait to pick it up in a few weeks!

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 10 Jan 2012 04:05 #220

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Phoenix,

I laid on the Natura crown for about thirty min and have to say this is one of the best beds I have ever laid down on. The mattress I was comparing it to would be made from essentially the same materials but I wouldn't be able to lay down on this until after it would be made. This scares me because I don't know what to expect from the finished product and would have to drive to pick it up and try it out. I really do appreciate the time you take out of your busy day in responding to my postings. I'm just trying to figure out the best solution possible as well as the least expensive option without sacrificing comfort.

Thanks again,
22bmarsh

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