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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... so confused 13 Nov 2011 20:02 #136

Hi MikeB,

Some of the better options I'm aware of in the Edmonton area include ...

www.tmasc.ca/ is a smaller sleep shop with stores in Edmonton and Calgary, AB. which specialize in high quality premium mattresses and some very high quality bedding products. They carry SleepTek and Greensleep customizable latex mattresses and Berkeley Ergonomics customizable pocket coil/microcoil/latex mattresses along with Natura and VI Spring (which are ultra premium mattresses). I have known Daniel who is one of the owners there for several years and they are exceptionally knowledgeable and helpful and have great integrity and are also one of the members of this site.

healthybedroom.ca/. They are a retail direct store for several brands made by Araam Inc in Edmonton and are next door to the factory. On their Tangerine Foam site they sell their Tangerine Foam brand of latex, latex hybrid, polyfoam, and memory foam mattresses along with some Sova innerspring/polyfoam and polyfoam mattresses. These use good quality materials, can customize to some degree (they only have one ILD of latex) and have good value. On their Healthy Bedrooom site they sell their Sprout and Zen Green mattresses which include latex/pocket coil hybrids and all natural latex mattresses which include hand tufted cotton along with wool and silk and they also sell Hypnos and Haastens which are an ultra premium natural fiber/innerspring range of mattresses. They are knowledgeable and transparent about all the materials and components in their mattresses.

fdyfurniture.ca/foam-mattress.html They used to be primarily a furniture, upholstery, drapery, and blind store that sold high quality products but have recently begun to focus more on their mattresses. They make latex/polyfoam, all latex (100% natural Talalay and organic Dunlop), polyfoam, and memory foam mattresses that use high quality materials in a range of prices. They use high quality materials including polyfoam up to 2.8 lbs (nothing lower than 1.8 lbs in their lowest budget lineup) and 5 lb memory foam and are knowledgeable, open, and transparent about all their mattresses and foam quality. They will also make custom designs for those that need something other than their standard designs. There is some good quality and value here.

www.thefoamking.com/ makes a range of foam mattresses that use high quality materials including memory foam, latex, and Energia. They have some better than average quality/value.

www.lbal.ca/ Retailer in St Albert, AB. They carry Organicpedic (OMI), Nature's Embrace, Naturepedic, and Savvy Rest mattresses which are all good quality mattresses but I would make some careful value comparisons because some of them may be in higher budget ranges than other similar mattresses. I would avoid the Serta mattresses they carry and I would make sure that you can find out the specs of any of the Kingsdown mattresses they sell before you consider them as well.

www.ikea.com/ca/en/ There are some better options here (along with some low quality options I would avoid). There is more about their mattresses in post #3 here .

bodo.ca/ Carries intellibed mattresses which use buckling column gel in the comfort layers. An unusual but fairly costly material and while it would be worth testing because buckling column gel it is somewhat unique material ... I would make some careful comparisons to make sure that the benefits are worth any premium in price compared to other high quality materials such as latex or memory foam.
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www.mattressmattress.com/ Retail store in Edmonton that carries some Springwall, Restwell/Spring Air, and King Koil mattresses that may be worth considering but I don't know how transparent they are so I would make sure that they can provide the specs of all the layers and components in any mattress you are considering here so you can confirm that there are no lower quality materials or weak links that would compromise the durability or useful life of the mattress and I would avoid the major brands they also carry.

For those that visit Calgary there are also some good options there (see post #2 here ).

Warranties are selling tools and have nothing to do with how long a mattress will last. The materials in a mattress and how it is constructed are your only meaningful assurance as to longevity and the iComfort uses some lower quality foam in the comfort layers of their mattresses (the weak link of all mattresses). The Imperial feels bouncy because of the resilience of the latex and the Energia foams which are both very high quality and have high resilience.

I tend to look at things in terms of value rather than price and none of the mattresses you are looking at have good value IMO although the materials in the Foam King mattresses are far superior to those in the iComfort (which I would not consider at all).

Post #21 here has a list of various online sources that are available in Canada if you are comfortable including online sources in your research.

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... so confused 14 Nov 2011 22:06 #137

Quick follow-up to my post about a month ago when I thought I wanted an icomfort. I searched the interwebs for reviews, and landed here. After reading all the stuff on this site, I realized I had no clue what I was doing and needed to learn more about mattresses.

I ended up going with Sleep EZ 10,000 blended talalay. It is three 2.8" latex layers that finishes at about 9". I did his/her ultra firm, firm, med. Did the his/her on their suggestion that I could test other configurations by switching. Made sense. Turns out that I have no need to experiment since it is perfect in this configuration as suggested by sleepez based on my weight and sleeping preferences.

Putting it together was not too bad. Getting the bottom layer perfect is key. No instructions included... I think Sleepez should include a document that gives you the quick start.

SleepEZ customer services is top-notch. Sometimes I can't believe that I had a mattress shipped from AZ to DE, but at the end of the day, it's perfect and I got more bang for my buck.

Phoenix, many thanks.

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... so confused 15 Nov 2011 12:43 #138

Hi Jimdog,

Thanks for the feedback ... and congratulations on your new mattress !

One more for the good guys :)

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 15 Nov 2011 14:19 #139

If you don't need to buy a mattress right away and want a Gel foam mattress I would wait a few mouths. There is a new Gel foam product coming to stores very soon, some may already have it. It is a Gel foam made by Flexible Foam & Future Foam. The process was developed by Bayer Chemical. Instead of ground up gel sprinkled into a memory foam wile it is being poured the gel is poured with the foam and is part of its structure. There are lots of rumors about the gel migrating out of the AUT foam, with the Bayer process that can't possibly happen. Gel is also very strong so having it part of the foams structure makes the foam stronger. You still get the cooling aspects of Gel but in a much better thought our package. I am working on the 1633 testing on one now and should a couple beds available soon. I really didn't like the design of the AUT foam so we haven't made a Gel bed till now.
Ryan

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 15 Nov 2011 20:04 #140

Hi Ryan,

That's great news! I've been posting about the "valid" versions of gel for a while and have been a little jealous that the nearest version that I could even test is over 500 miles away. I'm really optimistic about its potential when used in a meaningful way and I'm really looking forward to the feedback as people try it.

And just to make it easier to find you since you're a manufacturing member here and are allowed to post your links ... here's where to find you ... www.beloitmattress.com/

Thanks for letting us know :).

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 16 Nov 2011 03:33 #141

I need help. I, too, was considering the Serta iComfort prodigy. I've had a Kingsdown mattress for about 7 years or so that I've always hated. I finally got rid of it and now desperately need to buy a new mattress. I want to go with memory foam or anything that's NOT an innerspring mattress. I really liked the Serta icomfort, either prodigy or insight, and I also liked the tempurpedic rhapsody. But, the price of either is a serious investment. As a single mom, I need to be frugal. Can you help me make sense of this quickly so I can get a new mattress by the weekend? I'm tired of sleeping on a bean bag!!
It's just me in a king size bed (at least for now...); I'm 5'4" and a side sleeper. I'm 45, if that matters, and don't have any major back complaints. I'm in Tampa, FL and would appreciate any advice at all on what to look for, where to go, what to buy. Thank you!

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 16 Nov 2011 11:38 #142

The closest place I know to you is The Original Mattress Factory in Orlando, FL. They have a nice Latex set. You can check it out at www.originalmattress.com/.

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 16 Nov 2011 18:45 #143

Hi Alysal,

The first thing I would do is read the tutorial post here . Rushing to buy a mattress will often lead to poor value purchases which is a shame because what you buy will have a big effect on how you feel for the next decade or so. A mattress is one of the most important purchases most people make.

As you can see from this thread and others on the forum ... none of the choices you are looking at are particularly good value (or in the case of the iComfort good quality either) and the best quality and value will usually be from a local factory direct manufacturer or a better sleep shop that are transparent about the materials in their mattresses, use higher quality materials, and have better prices.

Some of the better choices in and around the Tampa, Clearwater, St Petersburg area include ...

www.pittsburghmattressfactory.com/ Local factory direct manufacturer with outlets in Ellenton and Bradenton. They make a variety of mattresses including double sided and true HR polyfoam (the best kind of polyfoam) and Dunlop latex. While they are not "cheap" and are priced higher than many independent manufacturers, they do use high quality materials and would be worth a phone call and/or a visit as a reference if nothing else.

www.manta.com/c/mm2fvf1/bartow-mattress-upholstery Local factory direct manufacturer in Bartow, FL. They have been making mattresses for over 100 years and make traditional two sided innerspring mattresses as well as 6" two sided latex mattresses on a working box spring. They are open about providing information about the quality/density of any of the materials or layers in their mattress. They will make memory foam mattresses but like many smaller manufacturers tend to prefer more resilient materials so they tend to discourage it and may not have any memory foam on their floor.

www.matterbrothersfurniture.com/ Pinellas Park, Tarpon Springs, Naples, Fort Meyers, FL. They are a local manufacturer that makes a range of mattresses including latex and polyfoam/innersprings (and some memory foam). The sales people there are often not as knowledgeable about the materials they use however (for example they know little about the foam density they use) but they told me they would find out if asked. Certainly a better option and higher quality and value than larger name brands or mass market outlets but would require some research because being a manufacturer with several stores the knowledge level of all the salespeople on the floor may not be up to the "norm" of most local manufacturers.

innomax.com/index.php Smaller national brand normally sold through retail outlets but with a factory direct outlet in Clearwater. Makes a range of mattresses including latex and memory foam and better value.

Body Rest Mattress Manufacturer in St Petersburg and Tampa. They sell to retail stores but they have a local showroom where consumers can test their mattresses and be referred to a retailer. They are owned by Commercial Bedding and make the Green Karma line which uses PET recycled materials which are rather unique and a non toxic and durable alternative to traditional polyfoam as well as their Green Earth and
Panache lines which includes latex, innersprings, and memory foam.
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www.orlandomattresscompany.com/ and Atlas Mattress Factory Lake Hamilton, FL. They are local manufacturers who are working in partnership and make a range of good quality mattresses. They generally make commercial mattresses for hotels and cruise liners but they also sell direct to customers at the Atlas Mattress showroom. They make traditional mattresses (innerspring/polyfoam using a wide range of foam densities depending on budget), latex, latex hybrids, and microcoils and are transparent about the type and quality of the materials that they use. Both Orlando Mattress and Atlas Mattress can provide information about the materials inside any of their mattresses. They can also custom build.
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810 beds Retail outlet with outlets in Tampa, Brandon, St Petersburg, Clearwater, Palm Harbor, and Tarpon Springs. Carries Panache and Body Rest mattresses (both owned by Commercial Bedding) and Serenity Mattress which are both local brands. He has a very close relationship with both and can order a custom mattress if necessary. Better value than most retail outlets, knowledgeable and helpful.
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www.somnissleep.org/ Retail store in Tampa. Carries Innomax, Organicpedic (OMI), and Reverie mattresses which are all high quality mattresses but some of them are in higher budget ranges. They also carry mLily which are a Chinese memory foam import. The owner is knowledgeable and focuses on the materials in a mattress rather than "marketing stories" which of course is a sign of a better outlet and better customer service.

www.clearwater-discount-mattress.com/ or www.tampabaydiscountmattress.com/index.html Retail outlet with outlets in Palm harbor and Tampa. Carries several alternative budget brands that tend to use higher quality materials and have better value than most major brands. While they don't know every detail of the foams in their mattresses (they don't actually make them), they have told me that they will find out for you so that you can avoid having too much low quality materials in your mattress.

bedpros.com/ Retailer with stores throughout the area. They carry Pure Talalay Bliss mattresses which are a high quality talalay latex mattress and because the specs are known can also provide a rough blueprint for an online purchase where the value may be better. I would not consider any of their other mattresses or let them steer you in any other direction using "sales techniques" (I don't know them but many chain stores do this). There is nothing else there that I would consider unless they can provide all the specs you need that will "prove" that it would be worth considering.

www.mattressdr.com/ Retail store in Tampa and also sells on ebay. Carries Diamond mattresses.

www.designinteriorsfurniture.com/ Tampa. Carry a wide range of Jamison mattresses.

www.thebetterbackstore.net/ Port Richey. Carry Jamison which makes some higher quality mattresses including gel memory foam and latex.

www.mattressavenue.com/ Port Richey, Spring Hill. Carry Pure Latex Bliss talalay latex mattresses. I would avoid the major brands they also carry.

famoustate.com/locations.html Tampa, Winter Haven, Lakeland, Oldsmar, Spring Hill, Brandon, Port Richey, Wesley Chapel. They carry Therapedic mattresses (including latex hybrids) but make sure you can find out the specifics of all the layers in any mattress you consider here.

This topic also has some feedback from one of the members here about their experiences with some of the manufacturers mentioned here.

Hopefully this will help you a bit ... and I would certainly take the time to do a little research if you can but if your time is limited it is exceptionally important to only go to outlets who will tell you exactly what is in every mattress they sell rather than telling you stories based on "comfort" alone which may feel great in the store but will have little relationship to how a mattress feels or performs when it is in your home or the quality or durability of the materials in it.

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 17 Nov 2011 23:48 #144

From what they say on the Original Mattress website regarding their latex mattresses, are these specs good?

Mattresses & Box Springs

Our Latex mattresses and box springs offer a truly unique feel combined with superior comfort, support and durability. There are two models available, both of which feature a two-sided design and the highest quality Talalay latex foam core. This core is approximately 40% natural latex and 60% synthetic latex. A blend is best as it creates the most consistent and comfortable product. Our Latex box springs feature four-fold torsion modules with additional wire, an additional wood slat and offer superior support and shock absorption.

overview
comfort choices
pricing & sizes
how to buy

Comfort Choices:

Latex Foam
Latex Supreme

Mattress Thickness:
9” – 12 ½” (Tolerance ± ½”)
Warranty:
12 Years Non-Prorated

Mattress Components:

The Latex models use a selection of the following materials depending on your comfort choice:
All Latex models are padded equally on both sides of the mattress.

6” Talatech® Talalay Latex Foam Core - 30-34 ILD, 4.7lb/ft³ Density (Tolerance ±.25lb/ft³)
Convoluted Talatech® Talalay Latex Foam Topper – 17-21 ILD, 3.25lb/ft³ Density (Tolerance ±.25lb/ft³)
FR Fiber
Quilted Panel Featuring a Premium Damask Fabric Cover
Heavy Duty Cloth Handles

Box Spring Components:

Amish Built Wood Frames ~ featuring 1 x 4 side slats and 1 x 3 cross slats
Blended Cotton Felt Insulator Pad
Skid Resistant Fabric Cover
Patented 4-Fold Torsion Grid Modules ~ provide extra shock absorption and durability
Special Sinuous Wire Springs ~ provide added corner strength
Hand-Tailored Box Spring Cover



Also, is it a good that all of their King sized mattresses are hinged and can be folded top to bottom??

Finally, do you have to flip or rotate latex mattresses? If so, how often? THANK YOU!!

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Re: The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz 18 Nov 2011 03:38 #145

Hi Alysal,

The two OMF latex mattresses each have an inch of polyfoam on each side (which is the maximum I would recommend) but other than that they use high quality materials (talalay latex). Because they only have two latex options however ... the specific layering of either of them many not suit some people in terms of pressure relief, alignment, or preferences. In other words even a mattress that uses the absolute highest quality materials (like quality latex) can have "bad specs" if the construction and layering aren't suitable for the person lying on them. This is why it's important to buy a mattress that provides the pressure relief, alignment, and personal preferences that are necessary for each individual. Even the best materials can cause discomfort and back pain if the specs don't fit the individual.

OMF is also a little unusual in the world of latex mattress manufacturers in that they include a "working" box spring (or torsion spring) with their latex mattress. Most manufacturers believe that a solid non flexible foundation is better suited for latex and that a box spring is not as desirable. It will certainly change the feel of a mattress however whether this different feel is good for an individual or whether it helps or hinders alignment would depend on each person. This means that a latex mattress on a boxspring will feel different from the same mattress on a solid foundation. They are good quality however.

Also, is it a good that all of their King sized mattresses are hinged and can be folded top to bottom??


This can be a help in moving the mattress through difficult spaces but is designed to not have an effect on performance. It can certainly be helpful in some circumstances.

Finally, do you have to flip or rotate latex mattresses? If so, how often?


While latex is a very durable material ... it can also benefit from being flipped (if two sided) or turned to extend its life. The less durable materials (like polyfoam) or materials that can compress (like various types of fibers) can also benefit from either flipping (if possible) or turning to even out the wear or compression and give the most used parts time to rest.

Its a good idea to flip and/or turn your mattress every couple of weeks for the first 3 months and then gradually less frequently until after about 6 months you are doing it once a season. If you have a two sided mattress you can alternate flipping and turning. With most material there is a more rapid period of softening or compression at the beginning and this can be better evened out with more frequent rotation or turning in the first few months and then less frequently after the initial softening and compression.

Overall ... OMF (like most of the smaller independent manufacturers) is better value and uses higher quality materials in any given price range than most if not all of the major manufacturers. Regardless of the quality of a mattress though, the most important part of buying a mattress is that it fits your individual needs and preferences.

Phoenix
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