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Never thought... 28 Apr 2012 23:34 #1

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I never thought I'd be on a mattress forum, but then again I didn't realize the importance of the mattress until I started having back problems. I have been working in the auto industry for over 15 years now (guess which one???) and "get" why research is important. I also get why finding a source of information that is accurate and honest is vitally important too. I am very glad, happy or enthusiastic (take your pick) to find this web based group about mattresses. As most of you have noticed finding a competent sleep professional is not easy. This website directs you straight to them! I am in my early stages of gathering information, and more importantly understanding that information so no "glory story" of what mattress I purchased yet. When I do I'm sure I'll share my impressions with the rest of you all... thank you for allowing me to share my thoughts in a brief hello to this message board :)

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Re: Never thought... 29 Apr 2012 00:45 #2

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Hi nissanman,

I don't think "guessing" would be too difficult given your mattress forum name and I would guess that your work also involves bending over or being in "unnatural" positions for extended periods of time and working in small and/or somewhat "impossible" spaces trying to make something "fit" that wasn't designed as well as it could have been.

In any case ... thanks for the kind words and welcome to the forum :)

If you have questions or need any help along the way ... feel free to post them.

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Re: Never thought... 02 May 2012 23:36 #3

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I'm narrowing down my options ( I hope). My first choice would be a custom Mattress from custom sleep designs in CT. Local product and no doubt a top notch mattress set. Biggest con, top notch pricing. Tied for runner up is Worley Beds mattress set, double sided and a local manufacturer where my in laws live. Or Connecticut Mattress by Tom Wholley because they carry the Natura line of latex mattresses. The runners up would cost about $1200+ less for a set. Tom found out 1st hand not to challenge the major mattress chains in court, they have unlimited resources vs the independent guys, but I admire the fact he even tried! Worley beds is an outlet I found on this forum and is the type of place worthey of my har earned $$$. If anyone has experience with any of the three companies I've mentioned I'd love to hear about it.

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Re: Never thought... 03 May 2012 00:28 #4

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Hi nissanman,

Custom sleep design is a member of this site (meaning you are entitled to a 5% discount on your mattress) and I think very highly of them (NOTE: for those who are reading this they are unfortunately no longer in business). They have a zoning system which is personalized to each person and is very "accurate" and they will exchange out layers until it is the way you want it. It would be the mattress equivalent to buying a pair of custom made shoes or a custom fitted suit where the construction was tailored to your personal measurements and needs as well as your height/weight etc. While they are certainly not the lowest cost ... they have great value for those who are looking for this kind of "custom fit" and Bob is also very service oriented and very knowledgeable about latex (he used to be a VP at Latex International).

Worley beds is a local manufacturer who I also think highly of although this is based on a single much shorter conversation. They certainly fit the profile of the type of family owned local manufacturer that I like and based on our conversation I know they also have good value although their mattresses would be more "standardized" than CSD.

Natura is a Canadian manufacturer which makes some quality mattresses but IMO they are not in the same value range as either of the other two (although the prices they charge would make a difference in value). I think they tried to do too much too quickly and tried to be all things to all people by introducing too many mattresses too quickly and their relationships with some of their retailer suffered as a result. It would depend of course on which specific mattress you were comparing but all other things being equal they would clearly be my third choice of the three. They also seem to carry Gold Bond which also makes latex mattresses and can have better than average value (if they carry their latex models).

I also admire people who will "stand up" to the major players ... win or lose ... but as you mentioned they have money behind them and have no qualms about applying "pressure" when it will benefit them. It will be nice to see when either their practices change (unlikely) or they begin to lose market share to smaller manufacturers who truly deserve to have a much larger share of the market. The key is to educate consumers about the difference in quality and value that is available all across the country if they only find out where to look and what to look for :)

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Re: Never thought... 03 May 2012 09:08 #5

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Thanks for the info on Gold Bond (another CT company too). I didn't realize they were into Latex as well. That would certainly be a consideration for me as well. And based on your information a stronger option than Natura in a heads up comparison.

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Re: Never thought... 09 May 2012 00:15 #6

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Days later, and days wiser...

I almost feel bad, but it's not looking good for CT Mattress. Nothing they did wrong, just don't have what I'm leaning towards. The manager at the store was more than helpful and a nice guy to deal with... but a Gold Bond all Latex mattress goes for as much as the custom sleep designs mattress, a no-brainer decision for me there. That leaves Worley Mattress in MA. Though not "local" to me, I have family in that neighborhood. Good enough for me :) Now just trying to get out there to try the PLB mattress vs their home built Platinum series. That puts me in a $1800-$2500 dollar range, more than I thought I'd spend but over the 10yrs I'll keep it a small price to pay! Keep y'all posted

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Re: Never thought... 09 May 2012 07:27 #7

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Hi nissanman,

Gold bond latex mattresses seem to have quite a wide range of prices at different places. They are in partnership with Ecosleep and some of their line are made by Durable Products (owned by Vymac which owns Ecosleep) which makes a similar line and in some cases has identical models that often sell for less ( see post #3 here ). For example you can see the Gold bond Ecotouch here is identical to the Ecosleep Cassidy . You can also see here that the "Ecosleep" Gold Bond Ecotouch is a 9" talalay latex mattress selling for a very reasonable price and yet in other places or with other mattresses the pricing is much higher.

Lets hope that one of the Worley Platinum series fit what you are looking for in terms of PPP (Pressure relief, Posture and alignment, and Preferences) because their value is very good. Of course the PLB's are also very nice even if they are more expensive (than most local factory directs at least even if they are better value than most mainstream mattresses).

I'm looking forward to seeing what you choose :)

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Re: Never thought... 10 May 2012 14:39 #8

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I really, really, really need to get into a shop that actually knows what they are talking about! For gits and shiggles I stopped into a larger chain store to lay on different mattress types. From my research I'm confident that Latex is the way I'd like to go, but I have not ruled out other combinations. The TWO stores I entered both immediately tried to steer me off of latex, especially all latex. Ironically they didn't have a good selection of all latex, just one offered between the two stores! They both went straight to "you want different materials in your mattress because Latex won't have enough support and you'll sink all the way down"... riiiight, I beleive you. NOT! I did not have high expectations when walking into either of these two places, and they certainly delivered! I'm now in the process of figuring out how to get to Worley even sooner now... :)

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Re: Never thought... 10 May 2012 20:18 #9

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Hi nissanman,

There's not really much to say about the "so called" information that you received that hasn't already been said in many places on the site and forum. At least you knew not to believe the stories which unfortunately many people don't!

It's sad really ... and unfortunately not so unusual in so many of the larger outlets that love to sell mattresses with much lower quality materials (usually undisclosed) at inflated prices.

I hope you have a chance to get to Worley soon and I'd love to hear your feedback when that happens.

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Re: Never thought... 10 May 2012 23:24 #10

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I will provide my impressions when I get there, no doubt! And on a side note, if any mattress shoppers have Nissan questions... I will try my best to answer them. Knowledge is power my friends...

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Re: Never thought... 18 May 2012 22:51 #11

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Worley was great! No pressure and lots of beds to try out. You can tell it's a family owned business with trustworthy people on site. My visit really helped me figure out that I like the feel of a latex bed. Now to get the wife to try out some of these mattresses. I will bring her to Comfort sleep solutions to try out some latex stuff, much closer to home and still a local manufacturer. This mattress thing is a lot of work! :blink:

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Re: Never thought... 20 May 2012 01:18 #12

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Hi nissanman,

This mattress thing is a lot of work!


That's for sure ... but it can also be a lot more enjoyable when all the pressure is off and you know you have good choices. I hope your wife appreciates all the legwork you've done and I sure appreciate your feedback and reports as well :)

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Re: Never thought... 22 May 2012 07:30 #13

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Hi Everyone,

I'm also living in the CT area (New Britain) and I also never thought I would be on a mattress forum! But I love this site and I am determined that this time I'm going to get the right mattress. I've been reading up and I'm at the stage where I need to visit some stores. I've never even laid on a latex mattress that I can recall. The wife and I are going to visit Restopedic and Custom Sleep Design this Saturday, even though it's a bit of driving. Aside from saying hello, I wanted to ask if there is a particular mattress that I can try at either of these places that will give me an idea of what the Ultimate Dream will feel like? We've agreed that we are willing to pay as much as it takes to get the right set-up, as long as it will last. But we would love to pay $600 instead of $2,500, if that would fit our needs. Also, are there any other stores in the area I should visit?

My wife and I are both side sleepers, 5'5 - 125 and 5'11 -175, respectively.

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Re: Never thought... 22 May 2012 08:15 #14

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matpro, what size mattress? A CSD queen set will run you $3200. For what you get it's a great deal. The $2500 mark gets you a Comfort sleep solutions queen set or Pure LatexBliss queen set +/-. Just food for thought.

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Re: Never thought... 22 May 2012 10:59 #15

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We like a queen. $3200 is really steep, but we might just do it if it is that amazing and will last. Do you know if $3200 includes tax/delivery? In your experience, are you seeing a pretty big difference in the variety of mattresses out there? I'm really curious how different a CSD, PLB, and Ultimate Dream feel. I would love to know how far the extra money goes in terms the actual benefits experienced. And thanks for sharing from your experience. I've been reading through your posts and you've been able to answer a lot of questions!

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