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Re: Ikea Latex Matresses 18 Dec 2012 04:07 #21

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Hi Phoenix,

Yeah, it does look like I'm partial to a pretty firm mattress, though I'm also still getting used to what latex feels like as compared to an innerspring. I was testing all of these in a back sleeping position--I usually start off on my side but end up on my back.

It can't be said enough, thanks so much for this amazing site! Mattresses are my new obsession, and the information here is good for hours and hours of reading (and I actually come away having learned something:)

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Re: Ikea Latex Matresses 18 Dec 2012 05:37 #22

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Hi Yogimama,

Thanks for the comments ... you made my night (and I'll sleep with a smile having read your post) :)

When you are testing mattresses I would encourage you to spend time completely relaxed in all your sleeping positions and moving from one to the other like you would when you are sleeping. In many cases a mattress that feels good in one position may feel very different from what it does in another sleeping position. Side sleeping for example is much more prone to pressure issues that you may not notice when you are testing mattresses on your back which can be more comfortable on firmer mattresses because it is a 'flatter" sleeping position with less pressure points and not as prone to pressure issues.

It can be difficult to "duplicate" the sleeping environment when you are testing (fully relaxed in a "pre-sleep" state for at least 15 minutes on each serious candidate) but it's worth it in the end because good testing can be surprisingly successful in predicting which mattress will do best in "real life". Some suggestions for testing for pressure relief are in this article and for testing for support/alignment (which is more difficult) are in this article along with a simpler more "feel" oriented version in post #11 here . Of course the overall 'feel" of each mattress and different materials and components is more subjective and a matter of personal preferences.

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Re: Ikea Latex Matresses 12 Mar 2013 01:44 #23

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So here is my Ikea experience.

1. SULTAN EDSELE
Your review in another thread "All latex mattress. This is 85% natural Dunlop and a wool/cotton ticking/quilting. This is one of the better Ikea choices (although the latex used is still not of the same quality as a 100% Dunlop produced in a mold by some of the better manufacturers)."
I was surprised how soft it was after all i read about dunlop hardness vs talalay. I actually felt like i was sinking in it and it didn't feel supportive or pain/pressure relieving, actually felt like it was amplifying pain initially. (this was the same experience I had with a 2" memory foam topper that someone gave me as a gift....dont know lb density of foam)
Interestingly, unlike all the others I tried, the longer I laid, the more it seemed to adjust/correct, and after some time the pain seemed to dissipate and became reasonably comfortable. Stated as 7 comfort zones. The price online is 729, but in store was 979!...whats that about?....60 buck delivery charge....dont think they remove your old....free delivery and removal one of the nice things about the mattress chains even though the are clueless on specs and just tryin to hustle they commission.


Guess now I have to make it out to vienna and merrifield to savvy and americanfoamcenter to try some talalay and 100% natural dunlop.

The saga continues


Hello Jayblackseal-

The IKEA Sultan Edsele is one I am considering, but also prefer a firm mattress. This one is listed as 'firm' yet you mention how soft it felt. Wondering what the best support is for this particular mattress? I'd like to add a box spring for height, but wonder if wood slats would give better support?

Also, I'm curious if you checked out Savvy Rest and American Foam Center? And can offer any opinion on either? I am in that area. I checked out Savvy Rest once, but did not really have much knowledge as to what to ask/look for.

Thanks for any feedback.

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Ikea Latex Matresses 12 Mar 2013 23:34 #24

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This forum has been so helpful! Thank you for the wealth of information. My husband and I are about to go ahead and order The Ultimate Dreams 10" mattress. So nervous, but so excited!!! Buying online is scary but I feel quite empowered after looking at this awesome site and hearing everyone's experiences. I'm also quite sure that anything will be so much better than our super old, caving in mattress that we have now.

Anyhow, I just wanted to weigh in on the Ikea latex Mattresses. We tried those out this weekend.

The Ikea Edsele

This is the one that I pretty much was the most interested in because it was the most "natural". I'm also in the same boat as the others who have weighed in thinking that it was pretty soft. I liked the way it felt laying on my side, but felt like while laying on my back I sunk in too much for my liking. I'm currently 7 months pregnant so maybe the extra weight had something to do with it. My husband also felt like there was not enough support while laying on his back as well.

The Ikea Elfsjord

Honestly I didn't spend much time on this one because right away I could tell it was way too firm for me. Sleeping on my side in this thing would cause me serious discomfort. My husband on the other hand preferred this one. But I think he mostly tried it out while he was laying on his back. Plus I really didn't like that it was completely synthetic and so thin.

I'm really interested to see what firmness level we end up getting with the Ultimate Dreams. From reading everyone's feedback I'm leaning towards a 3.5 or 4. I figure if it does end up too firm we can always add some more talaly latex on top to soften it up. Which may not be such a bad thing. ;)

I'll report back after we get it, so that there is a point of reference for those who have tried the Ikea mattresses that end up with the Ultimate Dreams as well.

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Ikea Latex Matresses 13 Mar 2013 00:21 #25

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Hi
I have an Ikea Sultan Edselle and like you I thought it felt soft at the store however it's not.
I actually find my so firm I have bought a topper to soften it, and that's another topic.
IMO the Ikea Edselle is a very good mattress and it does not sag at all. You move and it pops back up to flat immediately unlike a very expensive talalay topper I purchased recently.
The warranty is also excellent, 25 years here in Canada.
Buy it you won't be disappointed especially if you want a firmer mattress.

This forum has been so helpful! Thank you for the wealth of information. My husband and I are about to go ahead and order The Ultimate Dreams 10" mattress. So nervous, but so excited!!! Buying online is scary but I feel quite empowered after looking at this awesome site and hearing everyone's experiences. I'm also quite sure that anything will be so much better than our super old, caving in mattress that we have now.

Anyhow, I just wanted to weigh in on the Ikea latex Mattresses. We tried those out this weekend.

The Ikea Edsele

This is the one that I pretty much was the most interested in because it was the most "natural". I'm also in the same boat as the others who have weighed in thinking that it was pretty soft. I liked the way it felt laying on my side, but felt like while laying on my back I sunk in too much for my liking. I'm currently 7 months pregnant so maybe the extra weight had something to do with it. My husband also felt like there was not enough support while laying on his back as well.

The Ikea Elfsjord

Honestly I didn't spend much time on this one because right away I could tell it was way too firm for me. Sleeping on my side in this thing would cause me serious discomfort. My husband on the other hand preferred this one. But I think he mostly tried it out while he was laying on his back. Plus I really didn't like that it was completely synthetic and so thin.

I'm really interested to see what firmness level we end up getting with the Ultimate Dreams. From reading everyone's feedback I'm leaning towards a 3.5 or 4. I figure if it does end up too firm we can always add some more talaly latex on top to soften it up. Which may not be such a bad thing. ;)

I'll report back after we get it, so that there is a point of reference for those who have tried the Ikea mattresses that end up with the Ultimate Dreams as well.

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Ikea Latex Matresses 13 Mar 2013 02:25 #26

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Hi Gapeachk,

This forum has been so helpful! Thank you for the wealth of information. My husband and I are about to go ahead and order The Ultimate Dreams 10" mattress. So nervous, but so excited!!! Buying online is scary but I feel quite empowered after looking at this awesome site and hearing everyone's experiences. I'm also quite sure that anything will be so much better than our super old, caving in mattress that we have now.


There are a lot of forum members here who know how nerve wracking it can be to buy a mattress online but when you are dealing with a better manufacturer that offers comfort options and you have done some good testing and have good feedback available it can certainly make it easier and improve the odds in your favor.

I'm looking forward to your feedback as well about the comparison between the Edsele and your comfort choice.

As you know from your testing ... latex has an unusual combination of softness and firmness that that responds and adapts differently than other materials and in many cases different people have their own unique perception of what the same mattress feels like ... but every little bit of information helps sometimes for others who follow.

Thanks for sharing your experiences ... and congratulations on your new mattress :)

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Ikea Latex Matresses 13 May 2013 22:04 #27

Hi,
I bought Ikea latex Elsfjord mattress, it felt good in store but turned out to be way too hard and my shoulders hurt terribly. I wanted firm since our previous expensive mattress (simmons Backcare) was too soft, didn't provide good support and I had really bad back pain. Elsfjord has support (no lower back pain) but I need more cushion. I am 5'2 and 130 lb, side sleeper (sometimes stomach). I cannot return the mattress but can exchange to less firm Edsele. Edsele is 85% natural latex and thicker than all synthetic Elsfjord.
Or I could keep Elsfjord and get soft talalay latex topper online. Which would be better option? If I choose topper, should I get 2" or 3"? I tried putting old comforter on Elsfjord, it is better for shoulders (still not good) but now my lower back starts to hurt so I think 3" would be too much sinking. Is Edsele a better option?

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Ikea Latex Matresses 14 May 2013 00:05 #28

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Hi Anna,

You seem to have gone from one extreme to another and somewhat "overcompensated" for your experience with the Simmons :)

While I can't tell you what would be "best" for you because either of your choices may work and only you can know that ... I can at least tell you the pros and cons of each of your options and how I would choose so that you can make the choice that is best for you.

Now that you have some experience sleeping on the Elsfjord ... I think you would be in a good position to evaluate any difference in the Edsele with personal testing and the first thing I would do is test the Edsele carefully and as objectively as you can using the testing guidelines in post #1 here (and making sure that you spent at least 15 minutes on it after you have reached a "pre sleep" state of relaxation). I would make sure that you listen carefully to the more subtle cues from your body for any hint of "familiarity" about a mattress that is too firm for you in term of pressure relief.

If you are confident that the Edsele is suitable for you in terms of PPP (Pressure relief, Posture and alignment, and Personal preferences) then I would lean towards an exchange because the Edsele is a much higher quality and higher performance mattress than the Elsfjord and then you wouldn't need a topper at all (although you would still have that option if it turned out to be too firm as well).

The other alternative as you mentioned is adding a topper to the Elsfjord and in this case I would use the topper guidelines that are in post #2 here and the posts it links to (especially post #8 here ).

I don't think a comforter would be a good indication of how a latex or foam topper would work for you (they would be completely different) but based on your description and on your body type I think a 2" topper would probably have the best odds for you (especially if this seems to agree with your experience about needing a "little to a fair bit")

The advantage of this option is that if you choose a topper that doesn't work well then you could just exchange the topper for another one (assuming that it can be returned) and the risk would be lower than if you exchanged for the Edsele and for some reason it turned out to be too soft for you (which isn't likely) because it's not really possible to "fix" a mattress that is too soft because you would need to remove some of the excess softness rather than just adding a topper.

So I would make my decision based on your level of confidence in testing the Edsele. I would lean in that direction if you were confident it would work because you would end up with a much higher quality mattress which had about 1.5" more of a higher quality latex (roughly the thickness of a topper you would be adding anyway to the Elsfjord) and a higher quality cover that includes wool.

If you were still uncertain from your testing ... then the topper direction would give you more options and making a change from your initial topper choice would only involve exchanging for another topper. You could choose the replacement topper based on your actual experiences on the Elsfjord / topper combination which would probably give you a very good indication of what a replacement topper should be if your first choice isn't suitable. This way ... if you buy a topper that can be exchanged ... you would only be out the cost of returning it and would still have more options available.

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Ikea Latex Matresses 14 May 2013 19:04 #29

SULTAN HEGGEDAL Pocket Coil / Latex hybrid. I would give some consideration to this as a "budget" mattress. Slightly higher coil count, 85% natural Dunlop, Rubberized Coir, and higher quality materials in the ticking/quilting than the less expensive options.


Hi mattress shoppers. Latex specials today on aisle 3. Look for the flashing light. :P The IKEA experience.

I was near my local IKEA today and stopped in to look at this mattress, as after my bad luck with all foam mattresses I am curious about springs with latex. I am not a fan of IKEA. It took me 15 minutes wandering around that maze to find the mattresses. That being said, I found this one interesting. It is quite firm, but not what I would call hard. It was very supportive when I lay on my back , had good motion control and seemed nicely finished. After having two latex mattress break down quickly I am curious if a mattress like this, with very little foam in it, is going to soften less than an all foam mattress.

I don't know what the durability is like on IKEA innerspring mattresses, but if it is good this might be a basis for a bed with topper.

I also got to see the Sultan Laxeby slats in person. If I remember, Phoenix said they wouldn't work on a platform bed, but it looked to me like that is what it is designed for, as it has frame around it that would lift it off of the platform, allowing it to flex and also allowing the mattress to breath. Am I right on that?

IKEA's trade only policy is also limiting. You can use it for credit elsewhere in the store, but if they don't have another mattress that works, you are stuck spending a bunch of money on cheap Swedish furniture... They do have some great dark chocolate at IKEA, but I don't think I could eat a grand's worth of chocolate, even with my wife's help. :lol:

I will be curious to see what feedback we get on this new IKEA design, as there seems to be a dearth of reasonably priced mattress with inner springs and latex. Lew

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Ikea Latex Matresses 14 May 2013 21:24 #30

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Hi Lew,

I don't know what the durability is like on IKEA innerspring mattresses, but if it is good this might be a basis for a bed with topper.


Based on the quality of the materials ... especially in the comfort layers ... the durability "should" be good but in your case I would be scared to say that anything would be durable based on your experiences :dry:

I also got to see the Sultan Laxeby slats in person. If I remember, Phoenix said they wouldn't work on a platform bed, but it looked to me like that is what it is designed for, as it has frame around it that would lift it off of the platform, allowing it to flex and also allowing the mattress to breath. Am I right on that?


It's designed to be used on any one of their their bedframes which all have a ledge on the side that it fits on and the side rails would prevent it from sliding. All their bedframes can use any of their slat systems (see page 15 here ).

It would probably also work on a bedframe like this or something similar (either on the slats or as a replacement as long as it fits because standard dimensions can vary) but if you put it on a solid surface platform like this then it would probably be subject to sliding and you would need a way to attach it to the surface.
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I've also talked with some of the manufacturers of some of the KD foundations that are available and asked them to measure the dimensions of the Laxeby to see if it would fit and could be used with their foundations instead of slats but I haven't heard from any of them to confirm this.

They do have some great dark chocolate at IKEA, but I don't think I could eat a grand's worth of chocolate, even with my wife's help. :lol:


I have a Dutch heritage which means that I love dark chocolate ... so if you ever need to exchange a mattress for dark chocolate I'd be happy to help you put it to good use :)

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